Scumbag soccer players.

topper75

What about the consequences?

"On me head be them son"

Rough Sleeper

darkdubh wrote: »

Do you think you're in an episode of LA Law or something?Your typical pro soccer player is a thicko who is incapable of getting a real job.

A real job? As opposed to what, some abstract ethereal concept that exists only in the mind? The fact of the matter is Premiership footballers have a skill set found only in the tiniest portion of the population, a skill set that is far rarer and more valuable than yours or mine.

Oh, and aside from the obvious in your OP, "oaf" and "top-level professional athlete" are two mutually exclusive concepts.

Tail Docker

I'm guessing I'm the only one who wouldn't recognise Raffles Morris if he fell through my front window, propelled by a massive foot. I have a huge blind spot for footballers, one that encompasses the entire LOI, World Cup, Premiership et al. They would be going to work on bicycles and mowing the pitch themselves if my level of interest was more widespread. "You're good at kicking a ball eh? Good lad, that's grand, feck off down the park and kick it so."

Right Turn Clyde

darkdubh wrote: »

This piece of filth just sums up the kind of overpaid oafs in the premiership.Half of them should be in jail.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/aug/07/ravel-morrison-threatened-throw-acid-ex-girlfriends-face

The 'scumbag footballer' has to be one of the most irritating stereotypes out there. Ask any of these scaremongers for a list of the guilty parties and they'll simply round up the usual suspects, out of the thousands of players that have passed through the PL in 21 years. Boring and outdated hysteria.

Shanotheslayer

Tail Docker wrote: »

I'm guessing I'm the only one who wouldn't recognise Raffles Morris if he fell through my front window, propelled by a massive foot. I have a huge blind spot for footballers, one that encompasses the entire LOI, World Cup, Premiership et al. They would be going to work on bicycles and mowing the pitch themselves if my level of interest was more widespread. "You're good at kicking a ball eh? Good lad, that's grand, feck off down the park and kick it so."

Why go down the park when he can earn hundred of thousands in a stadium?

Right Turn Clyde

Tail Docker wrote: »

I'm guessing I'm the only one who wouldn't recognise Raffles Morris if he fell through my front window, propelled by a massive foot. I have a huge blind spot for footballers, one that encompasses the entire LOI, World Cup, Premiership et al. They would be going to work on bicycles and mowing the pitch themselves if my level of interest was more widespread. "You're good at kicking a ball eh? Good lad, that's grand, feck off down the park and kick it so."

265 million people play soccer at one level or another. Only a few thousand of those are good enough to play at the very highest level. Less than 700 of them are in the Premier League. All in all, they're seriously talented individuals.

aidoh

Right Turn Clyde wrote: »

265 million people play soccer at one level or another. Only a few thousand of those are good enough to play at the very highest level. Less than 700 of them are in the Premier League. All in all, they're seriously talented individuals.

That's fair enough but they're talented at something fvcking stupid and pointless in my opinion.

Show me a special needs teacher, homeless centre volunteer, disease-reseaching scientist etc. etc. who earns, in a year, a quarter of what these jesters earn in a month. It's bread and circuses I know but it's so frustrating.

Thread for a different day though, I guess.

Little CuChulainn

darkdubh wrote: »

Do you think you're in an episode of LA Law or something?Your typical pro soccer player is a thicko who is incapable of getting a real job.They are paid obscene amounts of money because numerous other thickos want to watch them kicking a ball around.These overpaid thickos spend their hard earned cash on hideous looking mansions and spend their free time spitroasting groupies in hotel rooms.

I think this post would be more suited to the soccer forum.




Please someone move it there.

A_Sober_Paddy

FitzShane wrote: »

Of course no mention to the like of Steven Gerrard who regularly gives a weeks wages (pretty high amount) to the Hillsborough Family Support Group among other charities through his foundation. Or no mention to the likes of the lesser known players like Steven Naismith who regularly gives match tickets to local job centres so that people who are actively looking for work & cannot afford to go to the game, can go.

Yeah, half them should be locked up. Especially the ones who are on higher wages.

Gerard a man who once assaulted a man in a pub...Yeah his a saint because he gives away money(which i believe lowers his tax burden), there is also a few stories going around involving him and a Liverpool legends daughter, which certainly isn't the sort of carry on of a married man

A_Sober_Paddy

RollieFingers wrote: »

I've seen some ridiculous threads on AH in my time, but this must surely take the biscuit! One example given of an admittedly odious football player thus becomes an attack on all of the "scumbag" footballers :rolleyes:

http://thesource.com/2014/08/07/greg-oden-arrested-for-punching-his-ex-girlfriend/ What about all the "scumbag" NFL players?

http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/Gloucester-England-rugby-player-Koree-Britton/story-20948620-detail/story.html Or the "Peeping Tom" rugby players?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-22549897 Or the corrupt cricketers?

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/ex-tyrone-gaa-footballer-cathal-mccarron-3341472 Or the GAA player who sucked on camera for cash?

It's pretty easy to give one example and then get on your high horse describing everyone as scumbags! Get over yourself!

Whats wrong with a GAA player being involved in gay porn? Are you a homophobic

Right Turn Clyde

aidoh wrote: »

Show me a special needs teacher, homeless centre volunteer, disease-reseaching scientist etc. etc. who earns, in a year, a quarter of what these jesters earn in a month.

I guess you could say the same about actors, musicians, whatever. All of those 'professions' pay more than any of the noble examples you've given. That's just the way of the world. But it's supply and demand. People's interest in football is what pays the wages. The same is true of Tom Hanks every time he gets $20M for three months work. It's crazy, but we're human beings, we're obsessive. We make people extremely rich because we like what they do and how they do it. If we donated the same amount of money to Oxfam as we 'donate' to Apple then we'd be living in a different world. But we don't and we never will. Our iPods mean more to us than people on the street. It's a horrible thought, but look at your expenditure over the past five years and tell me it isn't true. We get fixated on things and we spend money on them, and we don't care how many special-needs teachers that money could translate into. You do it. I do it. Be honest with yourself. Anyway, a conversation for another time...

DEFTLEFTHAND

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

Gerard a man who once assaulted a man in a pub...Yeah his a saint because he gives away money(which i believe lowers his tax burden), there is also a few stories going around involving him and a Liverpool legends daughter, which certainly isn't the sort of carry on of a married man

There's loads of stories about him though, people for instance say one of his kids was fathered by notorious Liverpool criminal James 'Pancake' Taylor who his wife had an affair with. The same guy who allegedly threatened his life when he tried to move to Chelsea in 04.

We hear only the rumours that are probably circulated by people who aren't too fond of him. It's unfair to judge without hard evidence.

Shakespeare's Sister

darkdubh wrote: »

This piece of filth just sums up the kind of overpaid oafs in the premiership.

Nnnnnnah, he... doesn't. Wind-up couldn't be more obvious.
This behaviour (IF he's proven guilty of it) is not what sums up the behaviour of Premiership players whatsoever, as you know. And "half of them" are criminals?
(I'm not even slightly a fan of football btw).

finno

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

Gerard a man who once assaulted a man in a pub...Yeah his a saint because he gives away money(which i believe lowers his tax burden), there is also a few stories going around involving him and a Liverpool legends daughter, which certainly isn't the sort of carry on of a married man

ahh here we go, Don't tell me you support UTD :rolleyes:

A_Sober_Paddy

finno wrote: »

ahh here we go, Don't tell me you support UTD :rolleyes:

Yeah i'm a UTD fan...A Leeds Utd fan

marklazarcovic

here we go

pmy.murphy

What about Stuart Pearce? His nickname is psycho for christ sake. That says it all:D:D:D:D

AnonoBoy

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

What a stupid thread this is but AH has been steadily turning into stupidsville for the last few stupid months.

Based on this one thread I'd say half of all After Hours posters reside in Stupidsville.

Strongbow10

danrua01 wrote: »

Maybe stick him in a cell overnight with Joey Barton?

Listening to "Rent a quote" Barton trying to be Morrissey is too harsh a sentence for the lad, give him 10 years hard labour instead

Paz-CCFC

BeerWolf wrote: »

When football bans the use of faking out injury

It is banned.

as the majority of them do

They don't.

and they stop being a bunch of pansies...

I thought they were all thug criminals? Or, is it half of them are thugs and the other half are pansies?

then maybe I'd watch football.

And, despite not watching it, you still claim to know a lot about it.

It's so god damn off putting watching "professionals" acting it out... 'tactic' or not, I find it fecking pathetic.

Thank god cheating never happens in any other sport or walk of life and is entirely localised to football.

aidoh wrote: »

That's fair enough but they're talented at something fvcking stupid and pointless in my opinion.

Show me a special needs teacher, homeless centre volunteer, disease-reseaching scientist etc. etc. who earns, in a year, a quarter of what these jesters earn in a month. It's bread and circuses I know but it's so frustrating.

Thread for a different day though, I guess.

You should understand that the vast vast majority of footballers get paid nowhere near obscene amounts. Most are amateur and, if anything, pay their club for the privilege of training and playing. A small number get paid, but certainly not enough on its own to pay the bills. A tiny tiny amount can make a living purely off the sport. In Ireland, the average wage for a professional footballer is half of the overall average salary for an Irish worker. This, for a career that will last about 15 years, if even that. After, they'll either move onto being a coach/manager (at a huge expense, unless they're lucky enough to find a club that will pay for their qualifications) or else they'll move onto a completely new discipline and start all over again. At least in my job, if I stay in the same profession, I'll get a good 40-50 years work. Footballers don't have it as good as it's made out to be.

Right Turn Clyde

Paz-CCFC wrote: »

You should understand that the vast vast majority of footballers get paid nowhere near obscene amounts. Most are amateur and, if anything, pay their club for the privilege of training and playing. A small number get paid, but certainly not enough on its own to pay the bills. A tiny tiny amount can make a living purely off the sport. In Ireland, the average wage for a professional footballer is half of the overall average salary for an Irish worker. This, for a career that will last about 15 years, if even that. After, they'll either move onto being a coach/manager (at a huge expense, unless they're lucky enough to find a club that will pay for their qualifications) or else they'll move onto a completely new discipline and start all over again. At least in my job, if I stay in the same profession, I'll get a good 40-50 years work. Footballers don't have it as good as it's made out to be.

In fairness to 'aidoh' he was talking about the few thousand footballers who are playing at the very top level, and his argument is that they are overpaid. The average Premier League wage is around €30,000 a week. That's serious money. He's not talking about the vast majority of people that play football, and he's clearly not talking about amateurs.

blueser

darkdubh wrote: »

This piece of filth just sums up the kind of overpaid oafs in the premiership.Half of them should be in jail.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/aug/07/ravel-morrison-threatened-throw-acid-ex-girlfriends-face

Can you provide evidence of what crimes the other 299 players should be in jail for? By the way; being vastly overpaid is not an imprisonable offence.

Dowl88

Rooney loves Grannies!

blueser

aidoh wrote: »

That's fair enough but they're talented at something fvcking stupid and pointless in my opinion.

Show me a special needs teacher, homeless centre volunteer, disease-reseaching scientist etc. etc. who earns, in a year, a quarter of what these jesters earn in a month. It's bread and circuses I know but it's so frustrating.

Thread for a different day though, I guess.

Why haven't you had a rant about Formula 1 drivers? Or NFL/NBA stars? Nothing to do with the fact that you're blatantly anti-football, I suppose?

anncoates

aidoh wrote: »

That's fair enough but they're talented at something fvcking stupid and pointless in my opinion.

Show me a special needs teacher, homeless centre volunteer, disease-reseaching scientist etc. etc. who earns, in a year, a quarter of what these jesters earn in a month. It's bread and circuses I know but it's so frustrating.

Thread for a different day though, I guess.

While I agree with your general point about the importance assigned to professions , generally speaking, remuneration is based not so much on skill but on the relative amount ( and scarcity) of that skill and less people have the talent to play football at that level than those with the skill to be excellent special needs teachers.

That doesn't mean the world needs more footballers than special needs teachers obviously or that the latter is less important.

Plus your point is probably more about intellectuals deriding sports and sports fans than an honest attempt to cheerlead for the care professions, let's be honest

Billy86

rubberdiddies wrote: »

Innocent until proven guilty, right?

Love him or loath him, Alex Ferguson put a good bit of stock in professionalism and character (which is why lesser talented players like John O'Shea and Wes Brown kept prominent roles for so long there). Morrison was seen to be the most naturally fixed player to come through Man Utds youth system since Giggs and Scholes, maybe even more so than either of those two. But time and again he was caught up in dodgy stuff and was surrounded did by scum away from the team. After trying and trying, Ferguson gave up... I think he even had him live with Rio Ferdinand for a few months as a last resort if I recall. He wasn't even sold for much, pretty much just offloaded despite having what was seen as incredible potential as a player. That says a lot to me, quite sure he has been done for domestic abuse before, witness intimidation, threatening others, public homophobic comments, and destruction of property amongst other things. He is scum.

But there are plenty of good guys out there too, like Dirk Kurt, Michael Essien and Diego Farlam. Even some guys who people love to hate, like Cristiano Ronaldo and Mario Balotelli do a lot of work for charity.