ISIS are pure evil.

K-9

222233 wrote: »

I saw this, the ideology is completely incomprehensible to me, they really have no idea how things should work in a normal society.

I would love to see a study done on the way the brain functions in a radicalised person - is it merely the effects of extreme brainwashing, is it indeed derived from religious belief or is there underlying issues such as attachment issues.

I'd say evil is there anyway, if it wasn't religion, it would be money or politics or nationalism.

They just need a cause to cover it. Every terrorist deeply believes in their cause, that doesn't automatically make it right though.

K-9

stefanovich wrote: »

I was being matter of fact. If you had a protest like that in Phoenix you wouldn't last long.

Well it would last long, America values freedom of speech just as much as gun laws.

The South had a lot to say about civil rights for black people, including shooting them. Didn't work out for them in the end.

stefanovich

Nodin wrote: »

...and again, if that were true, what would be admirable or worthy about such a fact. And don't please hit me with "I don't think shooting them on the street would be admirable", because you seem to have a fixation with the notion.

I think my point is that they do it in England because they feel free to do it. They know the establishment will protect their rights. They also know that the average emasculated Englishman loathes himself for being so privileged.

Nodin

stefanovich wrote: »

I think my point is that they do it in England because they feel free to do it. They know the establishment will protect their rights..

...........completely unlike the Americans, who have no thing for freedom of speech at all, at all.

stefanovich wrote: »

They also know that the average emasculated Englishman loathes himself for being so privileged.

...............is this going to be about the feminists? I knew it was going to be about the feminists eventually. All roads lead to Germaine Greer or something.

stefanovich

Nodin wrote: »

...........completely unlike the Americans, who have no thing for freedom of speech at all, at all.


...............is this going to be about the feminists? I knew it was going to be about the feminists eventually. All roads lead to Germaine Greer or something.

The sister of a terrorist is arrested and they are out on the street protesting that!! No word against their brothers who are killing in the name of Allah.

They are enemies of the state and are parading the fact openly.

TerrorFirmer

Nodin wrote: »

...and again, if that were true, what would be admirable or worthy about such a fact. And don't please hit me with "I don't think shooting them on the street would be admirable", because you seem to have a fixation with the notion.

You seem like you're itching for an argument. He made a statement, you questioned it, he attempted to clarify, now you're accusing him of being 'fixated'.

130Kph

I find the mid-eastern billionaire funders of ISIS more dismal than the actual terrorists [& given that western neo cons get deserved heat for their violent actions since 1750 / 2001:- so should these contemptable vermin].

The individuals who do the killing or suicide operations are virtually of no interest – they’re just brainwashed non-entities. They belong to an ancient history book - irrelevant to world history (obviously not to those they point their AK47’s at).

Instead of channelling say, 30% of their obscene, unearned & undeserved wealth into the problems of the poorest 30% unfortunates of the earth (a la philanthropy) they decide to pump hundreds of their millions into pointless archaic proxy tribal violence (aka nihilistic anarchy). They rarely justify this – and mostly avoid press interviews. In my opinion they are pure poison.

I would be in favour of imprisoning them in indefinite solitary confinement (and yes that is pretty cruel) and appropriating their wealth and using it for good in the world instead {a job for Colonel "Hannibal" Smith & the A-team possibly?}.

But they are powerful enough (..for the moment..) to write their own history.
I tend to avoid thinking about them..until the next atrocity, that is ……
Utterly depressing?

Thanks police alert:- I’m flummoxed why Nodin didn’t thank K9s post (#3696) about connecting evil individuals who only use various excuses for what they really want which is: violent terrorism – (but did thank post #3697) maybe his thanks button is intermittently broken or something Must be.

K-9

Thanks police alert, like that one, might use that one myself sometime.

cowboyBuilder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP6CaQOYJHI

Around the 3:15 min mark , it says ICM Poll : 16% Of French Citizens, 7% of UK citizens have positive views on ISIS


?? Can't be right ...

cowboyBuilder

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP6CaQOYJHI

Around the 3:15 min mark , it says ICM Poll : 16% Of French Citizens, 7% of UK citizens have positive views on ISIS


?? Can't be right ...

What is the percentage of the Islamic populations in those countries?

Mesrine65

France 8-10% Muslim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_France#Immigrant_population

UK 4.4% Muslim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_Kingdom#Religion

ZeroThreat

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP6CaQOYJHI

Around the 3:15 min mark , it says ICM Poll : 16% Of French Citizens, 7% of UK citizens have positive views on ISIS


?? Can't be right ...

This probably represents the true muslim populations of each country, and not the 'official' stats.

ZeroThreat

Around the 3:15 min mark , it says ICM Poll : 16% Of French Citizens, 7% of UK citizens have positive views on ISIS

ZeroThreat wrote: »

This probably represents the true muslim populations of each country, and not the 'official' stats.

The question is, are these percentages of the Muslim population or the general public. If it's a percentage of the general population, then this means that the majority of Muslims are favourable towards ISIS!

BigJackC

German police on Thursday arrested two Algerian men with possible links to the "Islamic State" militant group during raids in the capital Berlin, Hanover and Attendorn in the North Rhine-Westphalia state.

Police are searching for two other men after being tipped off by Germany's domestic intelligence agency.

The main suspect, a 35-year-old Algerian man, attended a training camp in Syria and was found in possession of material linking him to the "Islamic State," according to Berlin police. He is also wanted by Algerian officials for links to the terrorist organization.

The group of men is suspected of planning a "serious act threatening the security of the state," police said in a statement.

The two men who were arrested were living in refugee shelters, Berlin police spokesman Stefan Redlich told news channel N24.

"The refugee shelters where the suspects lived were searched," Redlich noted.

Authorities also confiscated mobile phones, computers and recordings. The group was expected to meet in Berlin to hash out plans for a terrorist attack on German soil, although police confirmed they did not know if they were close to fulfilling their ambitions.

"There were possible attack plans for Germany - concrete ones for Berlin," the Berlin prosecutor's spokesperson Martin Steltner told DPA news agency.

http://www.dw.com/en/police-arrest-is-suspects-as-carnival-celebrations-kick-off-in-germany/a-19026137

Fair play to the German authorities. They were on the ball here. Hopefully Carnival in Cologne passes without much of a hitch.

cowboyBuilder

Deleted User wrote: »

The question is, are these percentages of the Muslim population or the general public. If it's a percentage of the general population, then this means that the majority of Muslims are favourable towards ISIS!

Obviously means 7%, 16% of the Muslim population, but it's irresponsible to word it that way, it makes it look a lot worse then it is.

I thought RT were a good news source.

RobertKK

So on CNN in the past 24 hours:
Warning that an ISIS attack could be imminent in Europe, as intelligence services estimate there could be up to 2,000 ISIS fighters in Europe, some who came in the migrant crisis.

Then the number of ISIS militants in Libya has doubled to 6.000 and could use Libya as a base to attack Europe.
Thanks stupid leaders for getting rid of Gaddafi.

JackieBauer

I call for this thread to be renamed "Muslim terrorists are pure evil" so it includes Al-Qaeda and Al Doner Kebab

the_syco

Deleted User wrote: »

The question is, are these percentages of the Muslim population or the general public. If it's a percentage of the general population, then this means that the majority of Muslims are favourable towards ISIS!

I'm guessing "general public".

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

I thought RT were a good news source.

RT is ran by the Russian government, who I don't think like the muslims?

Kristopherus

Did anyone see the HardTalk programme on BBC ( News Ch & Beeb 1.)last night, where a rape victim who escaped from Daesh told her story? Truly harrowing & sickening stuff. Raped multiple times by those ISIS animals. Managed to escape after 18 months. Told her story very well, but broke down sobbing at the end. Very upsetting.

Harry Palmr

I see they killed 8 Dutch IS members who had tried to desert.

Roger Hassenforder

I see 'our friend' is back in court fighting deportation.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-accused-of-being-isis-recruiter-in-ireland-to-fight-deportation-in-court-723149.html

how long will this circus continue?

Harry Palmr

Whoops! Paperwork - its always the weak spot

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-islamicstate-files-idUSKCN0WC0UN

A disillusioned former member of Islamic State has passed a stolen memory stick of documents identifying 22,000 supporters in over 50 countries to a British journalist, a leak that could help the West target Islamist fighters planning attacks.

Leaks of such detailed information about Islamic State are rare and give Britain's spies a potential trove of data that could help unmask militants who have threatened more attacks like those that killed 130 people in Paris last November.

A man calling himself Abu Hamed, a former member of Islamic State who became disillusioned with its leaders, passed the files to Britain's Sky News on a memory stick he said he had stolen from the head of the group's internal security force.

maxwell smart

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Whoops! Paperwork - its always the weak spot

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-islamicstate-files-idUSKCN0WC0UN

Cut to scene in ISIS HQ - man shouting at his colleagues.....'Was that the stick with the porn on it??????'

stefanovich

cowboyBuilder wrote: »

I thought RT were a good news source.

They are a good anti west propaganda machine. Any negative story about Europe or the USA is reported with vigour.

I suppose some consider it a good source because they like america getting shat on.

stefanovich

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

I see 'our friend' is back in court fighting deportation.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/man-accused-of-being-isis-recruiter-in-ireland-to-fight-deportation-in-court-723149.html

how long will this circus continue?

How much proof do they have? If it is a clear cut case then Special Criminal Court and then deport.

They should actually hand him over to the US, I'm sure they'll have a few questions for him (he might even get a holiday in Cuba out of it)

stefanovich

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Whoops! Paperwork - its always the weak spot

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-islamicstate-files-idUSKCN0WC0UN

Fabulous news.

nacho libre

Another top ISIS commander has been killed. With the Syrian Kurds about to put the squeeze on them in their self- declared capital, and the Iraqi Army, supported by American airpower, along with their allied militias, shaping up to launch a summer offensive to take back control of Mosul, i think ISIS days with a central command and government structure are numbered. They will be even more desperate now to launch attacks in Europe to show they are still a force to be reckoned with.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-36011956

An Australian prisoner who supports the so-called Islamic State has allegedly used a knife to carve a slogan into his cellmate's head.
Reports said the Islamic State mantra "e4e", standing for "an eye for an eye", was carved into man's head.
An inquiry will examine how the high-risk attacker, 18, came to be housed with his 40-year-old cellmate.

There are some really sick individuals out there!
It's ironic that "e4e" was used as this is historically a Christianity belief as well...

conorhal

Deleted User wrote: »

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-36011956



There are some really sick individuals out there!
It's ironic that "e4e" was used as this is historically a Christianity belief as well...

Well that's one of the major problems with that particular 'religion of the Book', Christianity had a reformist second act that reccomended turning the other cheek. Islam however was Mohamad's crack at a second draught, while he borrowed heavily from Christianity to do so, he certiantly he had no time for JC's hippie antics, his lash was far more conservative, and worse still, proclaimed the literal word of God and thus subject to far less subjective interpertation.

ScumLord

Deleted User wrote: »

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-36011956



There are some really sick individuals out there!
It's ironic that "e4e" was used as this is historically a Christianity belief as well...

I wonder will we see that guy with the same thing carved into his head next week?

Eye for an eye predates Christianity and Judaism. The jews pretty much nicked all their ideas from the mesopotamians. Including this line and stories like the great flood, which they copied almost word for word only changing the shape of the boat.