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ISIS are pure evil.

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    #1682
    nokia69
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    very few if any jews left in Yemen

    I think we both know that muhammed married and raped a 9 year old girl so my guess is thats why so many people in Yemen think its ok to do the same


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    #1683
    nokia69
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    What are you basing this on?

    What are you basing this on?

    Why should I pay any attention to your predictions? Why do you even pay any attention to them? It sounds like they are just coming off the top of your head, or from other body parts.

    Iran has had its own form of islamic government for decades but most iranians now want a normal secular government, so a shia ISIS would not get the support of most in Iran, if you know anyone from Iran they will tell you the same

    there about 10000 saudis fighting with ISIS, and they all want to topple the royal family, ISIS and the wahhabis are very similar, when the economy goes bad for the saudis thats when the islamists will take power

    the prediction is not just mine plenty of people would agree with it


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    #1684
    Brown Bomber
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    nokia69 wrote: »
    very few if any jews left in Yemen

    I think we both know that muhammed married and raped a 9 year old girl so my guess is thats why so many people in Yemen think its ok to do the same
    Why do you have to guess? I mean you were in Yemen, weren't you? Muhammed did have a wife, Aisha, who was quite young though I am unsure what age she was and have never heard about her being raped, could you enlighten me?

    What I do know is that child brides predate Islam in Arabia.

    I find your typological thinking rather disturbing. It appears that as you think that Muhammed "raped" a child that all Muslims want to "rape" children. Is this the case?


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    #1685
    Brown Bomber
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    nokia69 wrote: »
    Iran has had its own form of islamic government for decades but most iranians now want a normal secular government, so a shia ISIS would not get the support of most in Iran, if you know anyone from Iran they will tell you the same

    there about 10000 saudis fighting with ISIS, and they all want to topple the royal family, ISIS and the wahhabis are very similar, when the economy goes bad for the saudis thats when the islamists will take power

    the prediction is not just mine plenty of people would agree with it
    I'm sorry, but this is all juvenile nonsense. Iran had an "Islamic" revolution - which enjoyed mass support - in 79 which overthrew the confirmed-CIA installed puppet, which had overthrown a democratically elected government in 53. Iran are the natural enemies of ISIS. ISIS view the Shias in Iran as infidels.

    The House of Saud ARE Wahabbis, they ARE ISLAMISTS. I don't really now what else to say.


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    #1686
    nokia69
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    Brown Bomber wrote: »

    What I do know is that child brides predate Islam in Arabia.

    I find your typological thinking rather disturbing. It appears that as you think that Muhammed "raped" a child that all Muslims want to "rape" children. Is this the case?

    muhammed married and raped a 9 year old girl, and no doubt other women too, thats a fact

    I NEVER said that this means ALL muslims want to do the same, however its clear that some do claim that if muhammed did it then its ok for them to do the same


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    #1687
    Brown Bomber
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    first of all could you please try and answer some questions directly?
    nokia69 wrote: »
    muhammed married and raped a 9 year old girl,
    Evidence?
    nokia69 wrote: »
    and no doubt other women too,
    Evidence?
    nokia69 wrote: »
    thats a fact
    Evidence?
    nokia69 wrote: »
    I NEVER said that this means ALL muslims want to do the same, however its clear that some do claim that if muhammed did it then its ok for them to do the same
    Give examples of Muslims saying it is ok to "rape" 9 year old girls because Muhammed did,. Thanks

    Also, assuming that some Muslims will want to rape children and some won't and we have no way of telling one from the other then surely all Muslims must be banned from careers like teaching, if not rounded up and sterilised. You agree?


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    #1688
    nokia69
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    I'm sorry, but this is all juvenile nonsense. Iran had an "Islamic" revolution - which enjoyed mass support - in 79 which overthrew the confirmed-CIA installed puppet, which had overthrown a democratically elected government in 53. Iran are the natural enemies of ISIS. ISIS view the Shias in Iran as infidels.

    The House of Saud ARE Wahabbis, they ARE ISLAMISTS. I don't really now what else to say.

    but the islamic government in Iran today can't win free elections, the people have had enough

    the saudi royals claim to be wahabbis, plenty of average saudis would disagree thats why the regime is vulnerable

    you even said this in the conspiracy board
    This axis of evil predates Israel. The House of Saud was cozy with the Zionists from at least 100 years ago


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    #1689
    Brown Bomber
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    nokia69 wrote: »
    but the islamic government in Iran today can't win free elections, the people have had enough

    the saudi royals claim to be wahabbis, plenty of average saudis would disagree thats why the regime is vulnerable
    I honestly can't take this anymore. You just keep making 1 naive "fact" after the other. You obviously convinced yourself all of this bullshine is real for some reason. God knows where you have gotten all of this rubbish from but it time to update your bookmarks I think. All the best.


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    #1690
    nokia69
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    first of all could you please try and answer some questions directly?


    Evidence?

    Evidence?

    Evidence?


    Give examples of Muslims saying it is ok to "rape" 9 year old girls because Muhammed did,. Thanks

    Also, assuming that some Muslims will want to rape children and some won't and we have no way of telling one from the other then surely all Muslims must be banned from careers like teaching, if not rounded up and sterilised. You agree?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha#Age_at_marriage


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    #1691
    Brown Bomber
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    nokia69 wrote: »
    you even said this in the conspiracy board

    Uh-huh. There is no contradiction in Muslim Fascists & Jewish Fascists being ideological allies.


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    #1692
    nokia69
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭nokia69


    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    I honestly can't take this anymore. You just keep making 1 naive "fact" after the other. You obviously convinced yourself all of this bullshine is real for some reason. God knows where you have gotten all of this rubbish from but it time to update your bookmarks I think. All the best.

    you even said it yourself in another thread

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057245408


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    #1693
    Brown Bomber
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    nokia69 wrote: »
    you even said it yourself in another thread

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057245408

    I'm sorry, but what have I said? If you go back far enough you will read me years ago virtually guaranteeing this horrible mess we are currently facing caused by the West backing jihad against it's enemies in Libya and Syria.


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    #1694
    Brown Bomber
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    nokia69 wrote: »
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha#Age_at_marriage
    Seriously? Wikipedia, the home of the made up fact tells us that she was somewhere between 6 and 19??? And nothing of rape nor Muslims justifying rape. Like I said goodnight.


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    #1695
    nokia69
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    http://www.yourmiddleeast.com/culture/exclusive-qa-with-former-islamic-state-member_26696

    an interview with an ISIS member
    I saw six jihadists demanding that a Christian women and her daughter become their wives. The daughter was about 12-13-years-old. I told the jihadists forcing women is forbidden in Islam and children can't be touched under any circumstances. They loaded their guns in my face and told me to leave. I immediately left to the local court that was based in a small house, but the judge was worse, he said I was wrong because 13-year-old girl is not considered a child, essentially because prophet Muhammad married his wife, Aisha, when she was only 9 years old. He accused me of having poor faith in the practices of prophet Muhammad for which I could have been detained and possibly punished with tough sentences, but my field commander soon arrived and saved me.


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    #1696
    Nodin
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    nokia69 wrote: »
    are ISIS a problem

    I doubt most women in saudi arabia like their lack of rights

    the way poor immigrant workers get treated in dubai or qutar might have some thing to do with the fact that slavery is allowed in islam

    do you know what they do to gays in iran


    And these things don't happen in non-muslim countries?


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    #1697
    BuilderPlumber
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    nokia69 wrote: »
    Iran has had its own form of islamic government for decades but most iranians now want a normal secular government, so a shia ISIS would not get the support of most in Iran, if you know anyone from Iran they will tell you the same

    there about 10000 saudis fighting with ISIS, and they all want to topple the royal family, ISIS and the wahhabis are very similar, when the economy goes bad for the saudis thats when the islamists will take power

    the prediction is not just mine plenty of people would agree with it

    'Islamic' fascism has had its day in some countries but could thrive in other places as the years go on. Saudi Arabia has had a very poor image and rightly so over the years: it is the main inspiration for all this bad stuff.

    As regards a 'Shia ISIS': thankfully, it does not exist. However, the so-called 'Islamic' Republic of Iran was set up in 1979 as the Shia answer to Saudi Arabia and General Zia's Pakistan: a corrupt military junta fronted by a bipolar depressive aged Muslim priest Khomeini who more or less became the new Shah in all but official name. Ever since 1979, Iran's regime has become a battleground between moderate and more 'hardline' forces and because of regime infighting, Iran has been very poorly governed since the 1970s: this poor governance predated the Revolutionary Guards regime and was part of the latter Pahlavi years too. But all said and done, Iran is actually one of the better countries in the region! Because of a largescale opposition to total fascist 'Islamisation', Iran's regime had to more or less give concessions to a lot:

    -Christians can legally make and drink alcohol in Iran.
    -Christians can dress as they please in Christian areas but have to wear 'Islamic gear' in mainstream areas.
    -The name 'Islamic Republic' rather than 'Islamic State' is a concession to those who threw out the Shah for a republic. In reality, Iran is still ruled by a king (now Ali Khamenei, another depressed priest) in all but name who fronts for the military (Khamenei seemed to be more military than priest in the 1980s btw with photos of him in military gear and not priestly robes during the Iran Iraq war).
    -A blind eye is turned to a lot as long as people give support to the regime.
    -The regime allowed the moderate Rouhani to be the legitimate president this time around.


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    #1698
    BuilderPlumber
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    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    I'm sorry, but this is all juvenile nonsense. Iran had an "Islamic" revolution - which enjoyed mass support - in 79 which overthrew the confirmed-CIA installed puppet, which had overthrown a democratically elected government in 53. Iran are the natural enemies of ISIS. ISIS view the Shias in Iran as infidels.

    The House of Saud ARE Wahabbis, they ARE ISLAMISTS. I don't really now what else to say.

    The House of Saud are Wahabbis and 'Islamist'. Their ideology is very similar to ISIS and al Qaeda, which is the Frankenstein's monster they spawned. However, such groups want to topple House of Saud and create the Islamic Emirate of Arabia.

    For this reason, this totally legitimises Saudi Arabia's current rulers in the eyes of most others. Saudi Arabia's regime is unpleasant, repressive and backward but it is a choice of Saudi Arabia or the much worse Islamic Emirate of Arabia, which would be a frightening thing.

    As regards 1979 Iran: there was a mass support to get rid of the Pahlavis. That did not mean mass support for what came next. What happened?

    -A rebel priest called Ruhollah Khomeini had been speaking about ensuring people's freedoms and he had reassured people that strict 'Islamic' law would not prevail and that Iran would be a democracy. He may or may not have been genuine, because Khomeini really never ruled Iran: Revolutionary Guards forces had taken over ever before Khomeini had arrived in Iran from France. Visions of a de Gaulle-type presidency and a religious Vatican like city in Qom quickly was replaced by a chaotic vying for power by younger men and Khomeini was a handy symbol.
    -The US despite all its official opposition supported an 'Islamic' Republic over the ISSR (Iranian Soviet Socialist Republic) that could have just as easily have formed. Socialism and communism had long been big in Northern Iran and even a Persian Soviet Socialist Republic briefly existed in the 1920s or 1930s only to be stopped in its tracks ironically by king Soviet Stalin because Stalin and the then Shah were friends. The IRI (ISlamic Republic of Iran) regime executed, imprisoned and/or exiled many Tudeh communists and Iran was saved from being another USSR satellite.
    -The battle between religious and non religious forces remains in Iran and eventually a happy ending will come about. The 1979 revolution is unfinished. A lot of what the people really wanted never happened: Iran STILL has a Shah, a military dominated regime, and is not exactly democratic. However, it is paradise compared to virtually ALL its neighbours. I know any Iraqi or Afghan would pay anything to get to Iran and Iran has often had to seal its borders!


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    #1699
    yipeeeee
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    Theres an awful amount of copy and paste in this thread.


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    #1700
    WakeUp
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    so it appears the IS jihadis are now just one mile from the Iraqi capital. these guys are like chuck norris on crack how did nobody see this coming. are the Iraqi army really this pathetic that they would let them get this close to their capital.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/islamic-state-crisis-alqaeda-fighters-joining-forces-with-isis-against-air-strikes-in-syria-9761392.html


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    #1701
    Ash.J.Williams
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    WakeUp wrote: »
    so it appears the IS jihadis are now just one mile from the Iraqi capital. these guys are like chuck norris on crack how did nobody see this coming. are the Iraqi army really this pathetic that they would let them get this close to their capital.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/islamic-state-crisis-alqaeda-fighters-joining-forces-with-isis-against-air-strikes-in-syria-9761392.html
    yeah that's what happens when you overthrow an army and replace them with a reluctant army.


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    #1702
    WakeUp
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    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    yeah that's what happens when you overthrow an army and replace them with a reluctant army.

    I agree with you. that was an extremely stupid thing to do. if they enter Baghdad it's going to be messy. will draw the Iranians directly into the fight too.


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    #1703
    old_aussie
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    Looks like the al-nusra front is going to rejoin/team up with isis, as al-nusra denounced US-led air strikes as "a war against islam".

    We don't want a war against islam on our hands.
    The countries fighting against the terrorists should just leave the entire situation, to be sorted out by the locals.

    From the news report......

    In an online statement, the al-Qaeda-linked group called on jihadists around the world to target Western and Arab countries involved.

    But on Saturday al-Nusra spokesman Abu Firas al-Suri threatened the coalition nations.

    "These states have committed a horrible act that is going to put them on the list of jihadist targets throughout the world," he said.

    "This is not a war against al-Nusra, but a war against Islam."

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29398882


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    #1704
    WakeUp
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    If the Americans or their mates are going to start dropping jdams on the nusra lads heads it's hardly surprising that denouncement and anger then follows. they will hardly be cool about it. the time to take out these IS dudes was when they were criss crossing the open desert in convoys of pick up trucks sporting raybans with the sounds pumping. or maybe not music think they have banned that. but that was when to go after them. now they are dug in among the populations any military force against them is going to kill lots of other people too. and what happens if troops are sent into Syria. this is probably going to get really messy really soon.


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    #1705
    old_aussie
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    BuilderPlumber wrote: »

    -Christians can legally make and drink alcohol in Iran.

    As long as they are not converts from islam


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    #1706
    jmayo
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    wretcheddomain wrote: »
    These three stick out as palpably absurd.

    It's funny how many Muslims refer to the developments in maths and invention a thousand years ago, as if they're openly admitting to having achieved nothing since. It appears more a concession than anything else.

    My thinking exactly.
    WakeUp wrote: »
    I agree with you. that was an extremely stupid thing to do. if they enter Baghdad it's going to be messy. will draw the Iranians directly into the fight too.

    The Iranians have revolutionary gaurds there afaik.
    Also in Karbala and Najaf.
    Intersting if Iranians and Americans end up fighting side by side on the ground.

    I am not allowed discuss …



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    #1707
    Amirani
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    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    Well ISIS have shown there disregard for human rights by torturing and beheading a female human rights lawyer.

    http://reliefweb.int/report/iraq/un-envoy-condemns-public-execution-human-rights-lawyer-ms-sameera-al-nuaimy-enar

    You really have to despair for the people living under ISIS control.

    Fairly sure they showed their disregard for human rights a long time before their killing of poor Sameera Al-Nuaimy.


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    #1708
    Amirani
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    WakeUp wrote: »
    so it appears the IS jihadis are now just one mile from the Iraqi capital. these guys are like chuck norris on crack how did nobody see this coming. are the Iraqi army really this pathetic that they would let them get this close to their capital.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/islamic-state-crisis-alqaeda-fighters-joining-forces-with-isis-against-air-strikes-in-syria-9761392.html

    This is crazy. Baghdad falling would spell the end for any chance of an organised Iraqi resistance outside of Kurdistan. I think such a situation would necessitate a foreign troop invasion, either from the West, the UN or even Iran.

    This is primarily the fault of the US, UK and anyone else involved in the 2003 war. Whatever about overthrowing Saddam, subsequently breaking up the Iraqi army in the way they did was ****ing stupid. Same goes for their stupid antics in Syria.


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    #1709
    Gatling
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    141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »
    The Iraqi army have proved there no better than IS. Executing suspected IS spies.

    Really id say its probably payback for the thousands already slaughtered by isis
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    #1710
    wes
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    Gatling wrote: »
    Really id say its probably payback for the thousands already slaughtered by isis

    I am sure ISIS would say the same in regards to various Shia militia's butchering Sunni's under Maliki's watch. 2 wrongs don't make a right.........


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    #1711
    Gatling
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    wes wrote: »
    I am sure ISIS would say the same in regards to various Shia militia's butchering Sunni's under Maliki's watch. 2 wrongs don't make a right.........

    No they dont but consider in this current situation isis started something that's not going to end well for them at all
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