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ISIS are pure evil.

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    #2222
    DeadHand
    Registered Users Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Tugboats wrote: »
    Hopefully they will get hold of a load of Israeli hostages and then we may see a real response

    Why would anyone hope for that?

    Jesus.


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    #2223
    OldNotWIse
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    fr336 wrote: »
    Not at all, quite the opposite, which is why these attention seekers keep trying to "shock" us. There is far more good in the world than bad, otherwise we'd be at war on every corner.


    It's just hard to believe sometimes :( We only ever hear about the evil side of people...


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    #2224
    fr336
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    Tugboats wrote: »
    What country would best take action against Isis? Hostages from UK,Japan, Russia and America have been killed and there has been little or no response. Will Jordan do anything?

    Hopefully they will get hold of a load of Israeli hostages and then we may see a real response

    Well I wouldn't wish this to happen to anyone but if that does happen then yes you may be very right. It's not the best strategy to annoy so many nations really is it.


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    #2225
    fr336
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    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    It's just hard to believe sometimes :( We only ever hear about the evil side of people...

    Not sure I believe in evil people, only evil acts. You have to be monumentally stupid to carry out such acts imo i.e. have no emotional intelligence, or intelligence of what life is about at all. Such people may as well be aliens to us. Their stupidity makes them dangerous, but only the acts are evil imo. They are stupid.


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    #2226
    fr336
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    DeadHand wrote: »
    Why would anyone hope for that?

    Jesus.

    Don't think they meant it that way at all.


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    #2227
    sjb25
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    Boring username wrote: »
    ****ing animals.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-31121160

    Jesus fcuking Christ sick scumbags


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    #2228
    fr336
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    nokia69 wrote: »
    they have millions of supporters all over the world

    if there were free elections across the middle east, ISIS type parties would win in some countries

    I wouldn't say too many millions, otherwise you'd see scenes in Syria etc being played out on the streets of UK, USA, Europe etc daily. This is a world with a population of billions, those going on about millions of supporters tend to be as bloodthirsty as these thickos in my experience.


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    #2229
    Buona Fortuna
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    FalconGirl wrote: »
    All over twitter and other sources. As its developing pictures too. These animals are pathethic scum. I hope attempts are ramped up to wipe them of the face of the earth. Their evil knows no bounds.

    I find it difficult to disagree but I'm pretty sure that's what they want. Another Crusade. A Vietnam in the sand, which the West can't possibly win and we all end up back in the Middle Ages somewhere.


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    #2230
    fr336
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    Boring username wrote: »
    I expect Jordan will follow through on their promise to execute all ISIS prisoners if their pilot was not returned alive.

    So they've basically taken the decision to kill their own 'members' now, I mean how stupid can you get....why would anyone join these pointless thugs??


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    #2231
    OldNotWIse
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    fr336 wrote: »
    Not sure I believe in evil people, only evil acts. You have to be monumentally stupid to carry out such acts imo i.e. have no emotional intelligence, or intelligence of what life is about at all. Such people may as well be aliens to us. Their stupidity makes them dangerous, but only the acts are evil imo. They are stupid.

    I believe they are evil people. I know plenty of stupid people who are not evil.


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    fr336
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    Buona Fortuna wrote: »
    I find it difficult to disagree but I'm pretty sure that's what they want. Another Crusade. A Vietnam in the sand, which the West can't possibly win and we all end up back in the Middle Ages somewhere.

    Not likely, the US would nuke their whole base before it got to a stage of no return. Unluckily for them, their whole routine is in the middle ages while the world is bang in the 21st century. Hell even if they did have nukes the US would destroy them before they'd thought about pushing the button.


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    #2233
    fr336
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    OldNotWIse wrote: »
    I believe they are evil people. I know plenty of stupid people who are not evil.

    Wow talk about missing my point well and truly.


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    #2234
    jobbridge4life
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    It is obscene that these filth have not been eradicated. A global coalition should be formed and immediately dispatched. Obliterate them.


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    #2235
    Buona Fortuna
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    fr336 wrote: »
    Not likely, the US would nuke their whole base before it got to a stage of no return. Unluckily for them, their whole routine is in the middle ages while the world is bang in the 21st century. Hell even if they did have nukes the US would destroy them before they'd thought about pushing the button.

    Good Luck with that Dr Strangelove.


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    #2236
    DeadHand
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    fr336 wrote: »
    Well I wouldn't wish this to happen to anyone but if that does happen then yes you may be very right. It's not the best strategy to annoy so many nations really is it.

    ISIS are rightly despised by almost all surrounding powers capable of destroying them but none can move against them for broader strategic and political reasons.

    NATO won't tolerate a full scale Iranian invasion. NATO or Israel can't put in boots on the ground because Western or Israeli soldiers in Syria and Iraq will drive the entire region insane. Saudi Arabia see them as an important bulwark against the Shia powers and will continue their clandestine support of them.

    The solutions?

    The West needs to engage in some realpolitik and come to some agreement with Assad and Iran. Continue the support and airstrikes to keep the Kurds in the field. Turkey needs to wake up and do something besides making it difficult for the Kurds to defend themselves.


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    #2237
    fr336
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    Buona Fortuna wrote: »
    Good Luck with that Dr Strangelove.

    So you reckon if push came to shove and it was a choice between the world being overrun with middle age fans and getting rid of them, the world wouldn't choose the latter?


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    nokia69
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    fr336 wrote: »
    I wouldn't say too many millions, otherwise you'd see scenes in Syria etc being played out on the streets of UK, USA, Europe etc daily. This is a world with a population of billions, those going on about millions of supporters tend to be as bloodthirsty as these thickos in my experience.

    ask the people of Nigeria

    there was a huge civil war in Algeria in the 90s that was every bit as bad as Syria/Iraq now

    in the last free election in Egypt the muslim brotherhood won the election and the salafis were second

    most people in saudi arabia support ISIS

    millions of muslims support ISIS


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    #2239
    Mesrine65
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    Buona Fortuna wrote: »
    Good Luck with that Dr Strangelove.


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    Barry Edmonds
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    I was having quite a good day today and this has made me depressed. I've seen the pictures. Imagine his fear when he saw what they had prepared for him. Imagine the agony of being burned alive. Beheading would have been merciful by comparison...

    And the people who did this will soon return to Europe to murder and rape.

    What's needed is a coalition of Arab and Western nations. They need to go in and kill every last one of them. Exterminate them.


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    #2241
    pueblo
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    Barry Edmonds wrote: »
    ...What's needed is a coalition of Arab and Western nations. They need to go in and kill every last one of them. Exterminate them.

    You can't exterminate an idea.


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    #2242
    DeadHand
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    nokia69 wrote: »
    millions of muslims support ISIS

    True, but many millions more despise ISIS and want to destroy them.

    The overwhelming bulk of ISIS's victims have been Muslim. The vast majority of those on the ground actively resisting them (the Kurds, Iraqi Shia, Iranians, Assad regime) are themselves Muslim.


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    #2243
    kstand
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    Regarding these bombing raids - what are they achieving? ISIS seem to be milking it from the oil they have and the infrastructure remains in tact. On top of that they seem to be able to move columns of tanks etc around and not get hit. This is in a very arid landscape - a millions miles away from the jungles of Vietnam - and should be easy to monitor via satellite. Surely the first thing that should be done here is to destroy the infrastructure of the areas they hold - roads, bridges etc and take out any column they see moving. Iraq was on its knees in 4 days the last time the Americans went in there - how come this is being drawn out? I know the people who would suffer most are the poor - but this is a war and they live in hell as it is right now anyway.


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    #2244
    Buona Fortuna
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    fr336 wrote: »
    So you reckon if push came to shove and it was a choice between the world being overrun with middle age fans and getting rid of them, the world wouldn't choose the latter?

    No. I just shudder at anyone suggesting nuclear weapons.


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    #2245
    jobbridge4life
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    pueblo wrote: »
    You can't exterminate an idea.

    I think we came close enough for Nazism.


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    #2246
    Tugboats
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    https://jdlong.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/bush_miss_me_yet.jpg


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    #2247
    fr336
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    Buona Fortuna wrote: »
    No. I just shudder at anyone suggesting nuclear weapons.

    Me too. Usually.


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    fr336
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    Tugboats wrote: »
    https://jdlong.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/bush_miss_me_yet.jpg

    One of the guys who gave these scumbags 'excuses' to build up a following and do all this? Nah not really


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    #2249
    ireland.man
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    Tugboats wrote: »
    https://jdlong.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/bush_miss_me_yet.jpg

    Yeah, you're right, W Brush really fcuked up the entire region and should be tried for war crimes. I'm totally with you on this one


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    magma69
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    Tugboats wrote: »
    https://jdlong.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/bush_miss_me_yet.jpg

    He's one of the reasons ISIS now have power in the Iraq region ffs.


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    SEPT 23 1989
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    Buona Fortuna wrote: »
    I find it difficult to disagree but I'm pretty sure that's what they want. Another Crusade. A Vietnam in the sand, which the West can't possibly win and we all end up back in the Middle Ages somewhere.

    the west can win but the liberal gloves will have to come off


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