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ISIS are pure evil.

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    #2522
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    It is a mistake to think ISIS is reliant on donations - some analysts are saying that it is now essentially self-funded, via oil sales, taxation, looted antiquities, etc.

    Good BBC report on it from last September.

    Edit: Jobsbridge got there first - and he's right.


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    #2523
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    You missed my point. The state security services facilitated these rapes.



    Do you mean the British muslims in Rotherham?

    I haven't forgotten about them or all the white rapists in the BBC.


    "British Muslim" is an oxymoron.


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    #2524
    Mesrine65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    cruasder777 wrote: »
    "British Muslim" is an oxymoron.
    How so?


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    #2525
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Mesrine65 wrote: »
    A small but steady flow of money to ISIS from rich individuals in the Gulf with Qataris the biggest suppliers.


    Former U.S. Navy Admiral & NATO Supreme Commander James Stavridis says the cash flow from private donors is significant now & was even more significant in the early fund-raising done by ISIS & al Qaeda’s affiliate in Syria, the al-Nusrah Front.

    According to some, ISIS are now using private donors of another kind for funding, albeit probably against their will, or unbeknownst to them.


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    #2526
    Your Superior
    Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Your Superior


    cruasder777 wrote: »
    "British Muslim" is an oxymoron.

    My son in law is a British Muslim, please explain.


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    #2527
    Iwasfrozen
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    nokia69 wrote: »
    just like their prophet

    Ah that's a bit below the belt lad.


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    #2528
    Gatling
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    Your Superior wrote: »
    My son in law is a British Muslim, please explain.

    Surely it's British citizen first,
    Hi I'm Ali and I'm British,
    Not hi I'm Ali from whatever decent and British muslim
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    #2529
    Roger Hassenforder
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    he might be suggesting loyalty is primarily to islam than to the crown or something.
    i imagine most religious people could be thrown into that boat.


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    #2530
    Your Superior
    Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Your Superior


    Gatling wrote: »
    Surely it's British citizen first,
    Hi I'm Ali and I'm British,
    Not hi I'm Ali from whatever decent and British muslim

    He is British and he is a Muslim, not sure why that is so difficult for you. It's like being an Irish Catholic.


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    #2531
    Donkey Oaty
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    Roger Hassenforder wrote: »
    According to some, ISIS are now using private donors of another kind for funding, albeit probably against their will, or unbeknownst to them.

    Organ harvesting aside, that article also quotes the Russian intelligence services as saying that they think ISIS are responsible for half the heroin supply into Europe.

    Haven't heard that angle before.

    The people-smuggling it refers to makes sense as well - I'd imagine that's incredibly lucrative.


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    #2532
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Your Superior wrote: »
    He is British and he is a Muslim, not sure why that is so difficult for you. It's like being an Irish Catholic.

    The majority would say Irish first and foremost even the yanks will say there Irish not catholic irish or irish catholic
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    #2533
    Your Superior
    Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Your Superior


    Donkey Oaty wrote: »
    Organ harvesting aside, that article also quotes the Russian intelligence services as saying that they think ISIS are responsible for half the heroin supply into Europe.

    Haven't heard that angle before.

    The people-smuggling it refers to makes sense as well - I'd imagine that's incredibly lucrative.

    I 'know' people who made a fortune from it in the 80s and 90s.


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    #2534
    Your Superior
    Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Your Superior


    Gatling wrote: »
    The majority would say Irish first and foremost even the yanks will say there Irish not catholic irish or irish catholic

    He refers to himself as British, as he is British. He is also Muslim, making him a British Muslim, something an earlier poster/racist says doesn't exist.


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    #2535
    Gatling
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    Donkey Oaty wrote: »
    Organ harvesting aside, that article also quotes the Russian intelligence services as saying that they think ISIS are responsible for half the heroin supply into Europe.

    Haven't heard that angle before.

    The people-smuggling it refers to makes sense as well - I'd imagine that's incredibly lucrative.

    Don't think heroine comes into it at all ,
    Most of that comes through iran and Afghanistan very little comes via Iraq /Syria outside of the major cities the places are dust bowls
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    #2536
    Your Superior
    Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Your Superior


    Gatling wrote: »
    Don't think heroine comes into it at all ,
    Most of that comes through iran and Afghanistan very little comes via Iraq /Syria outside of the major cities the places are dust bowls

    With weak land borders that give easy access to Europe...


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    #2537
    cruasder777
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭cruasder777


    Mesrine65 wrote: »
    How so?


    British is English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh.

    Not Eskimo, not red Indian, nor anything else.


    If I said Chinese-Nigerian or Pakistani-Inuit, you would laugh at the absurdity, but Europeans are expected to swallow this bs.

    Muslims are no more British then Spike Milligan was an Indian.

    A kitten born in a kipper box is still a cat.


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    #2538
    Donkey Oaty
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    This identity stuff is all in the eye of the beholder really.

    I mean, Mo Farah is a Somali-born British Muslim (quite devout, apparently) but to me he'll always be a Landanah.


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    #2539
    Your Superior
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    cruasder777 wrote: »
    British is English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh.

    Not Eskimo, not red Indian, nor anything else.


    If I said Chinese-Nigerian or Pakistani-Inuit, you would laugh at the absurdity, but Europeans are expected to swallow this bs.

    You do realise Muslim/Islam is a religion, not a race?

    Actually, I doubt you do.

    Enjoy your trip to Paris last night?


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    #2540
    cruasder777
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    Your Superior wrote: »
    You do realise Muslim/Islam is a religion, not a race?

    Actually, I doubt you do.

    Enjoy your trip to Paris last night?


    Its more then a religion, the Koran is a manual of conquest, its a totalitarian doctrine.


    Paris ?


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    #2541
    jobbridge4life
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    cruasder777 wrote: »
    British is English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh.

    Not Eskimo, not red Indian, nor anything else.


    If I said Chinese-Nigerian or Pakistani-Inuit, you would laugh at the absurdity, but Europeans are expected to swallow this bs.
    .

    You mean like Irish-American, or African-American...


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    #2542
    Zebra3
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    Your Superior wrote: »
    You do realise Muslim/Islam is a religion, not a race?

    Let's not overdo it!!! :pac:


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    #2543
    cruasder777
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    Donkey Oaty wrote: »
    This identity stuff is all in the eye of the beholder really.

    I mean, Mo Farah is a Somali-born British Muslim (quite devout, apparently) but to me he'll always be a Landanah.


    Yes, Im sure he loves pie and mash, a pint of youngs, a night at the dogs etc :rolleyes:


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    #2544
    Roger Hassenforder
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    cruasder777 wrote: »
    British is... Irish.

    hold on a f**kin second


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    #2545
    Gatling
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    Your Superior wrote: »
    With weak land borders that give easy access to Europe...

    According to russians but when you think 90% of the world's heroine comes from Iran and Afghanistan how could 70% comes from isis controlled iraq and Syria ,
    The same russian intelligence that got thrown out of Afghanistan a few years back after setting up a base to run counter narco operations without informing the Afganistan government
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    #2546
    cruasder777
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    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    You mean like Irish-American, or African-American...

    America is not an ancient country created by European tribes.

    So its identity is more fluid.


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    #2547
    Your Superior
    Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Your Superior


    cruasder777 wrote: »
    Yes, Im sure he loves pie and mash, a pint of youngs, a night at the dogs etc :rolleyes:

    And a few racist songs... Yeah that's being British.

    I'm British and don't like any of the things you mentioned.


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    #2548
    Kiwi in IE
    Registered Users Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    cruasder777 wrote: »
    "British Muslim" is an oxymoron.
    cruasder777 wrote: »
    British is English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh.

    Not Eskimo, not red Indian, nor anything else.


    If I said Chinese-Nigerian or Pakistani-Inuit, you would laugh at the absurdity, but Europeans are expected to swallow this bs.

    Muslims are no more British then Spike Milligan was an Indian.

    A kitten born in a kipper box is still a cat.

    What if you said 'Nigerian Christian' or 'Chinese Christian'? Still an oxymoron?

    Anyhow aside from the fact you are clearly confused about the difference between ethnicity and religion, is a person with a Nigerian parent and Chinese parent who lives in China but was born in Nigeria not a Chinese Nigerian?


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    #2549
    cruasder777
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    Your Superior wrote: »
    And a few racist songs... Yeah that's being British.

    I'm British and don't like any of the things you mentioned.


    Its traditional London culture, before the indigenous people were driven out.


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    #2550
    Steve012
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    I remember watching this with the girlfriend in August... After knowing about ISIS after watching this, my only conclusion was.. Jesus these people need to be eradicated. We both wouldn't hurt a fly. But when these people are indoctrinating children creating more generations of pure hate. F*ck me.
    This could get quite nasty.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUjHb4C7b94


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    #2551
    Your Superior
    Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭Your Superior


    cruasder777 wrote: »
    Its traditional London culture, before the indigenous people were driven out.

    I wasn't driven anywhere, and London is not the whole of England. Lots of people in England hate pie and mash, Youngs is terrible beer, and watching greyhounds is terrible.


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