ISIS are pure evil.

Donkey Oaty

Have found Crusader's Scottish relative:

cruasder777

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

There is even a possibility that people with a different skin colour to crusader who were born on the UK mainland might actually be more British than himself. After all their geographical origin is Great Britain proper, not the afterthought. :P

British is Celt/Gael, Saxon, Viking and Norman.

Could a Pakistani be a member of the Sioux tribe ?

Im dealing in logic here, not pc, not emotion.

A nation is its people, the people must have a shared history and ancestry otherwise its not a nation,its a collection of fragmented groups. Obviously there will always be some outsiders who do well, but that does not negate the above point.

There is a deliberate agenda to destroy native European people.


Islam has been used as a weapon against us by cultural Marxists. Ask those children in Rotherham, the women raped in Norway etc.

Your Superior

cruasder777 wrote: »

British is Celt/Gael, Saxon, Viking and Norman.

Could a Pakistani be a member of the Sioux tribe ?

Im dealing in logic here, not pc, not emotion.

A nation is its people, the people must have a shared history and ancestry otherwise its not a nation,its a collection of fragmented groups. Obviously there will always be some outsiders who do well, but that does not negate the above point.

There is a deliberate agenda to destroy native European people.


Islam has been used as a weapon against us by cultural Marxists.

So the USA is not a nation?

That post is so stupid I don't even know where to begin.

cruasder777

Your Superior wrote: »

So the USA is not a nation other than for the native Americans? Stupid statement.

The USA is a European creation genius.

If it was not for Europeans it would still be a group of tribes living in the stone age.

Your Superior

cruasder777 wrote: »

The USA is a European creation genius.

If it was not for Europeans it would still be a group of tribes living in the stone age.

By colonisation. Genius.

cruasder777

Your Superior wrote: »

By colonisation. Genius.

Your are out of your depth, now you rely on glib statements.


Advanced cultures taking over more primitive cultures is a fact of life.

Even Marx recognised that.

Islam and mass third world immigration taking over Europe is socially engineered. To destroy European peoples.

Your Superior

cruasder777 wrote: »

Your are out of your depth, now you rely on glib statements.


Advanced cultures taking over more primitive cultures is a fact of life.

So if ISIS take over Europe it will mean they are more advanced, so what's your problem?

cruasder777

Your Superior wrote: »

So if ISIS take over Europe it will mean they are more advanced, so what's your problem?

No genius, Islam will conquer through demographics not cultural advancement as whites did in Africa.

Such a conquest will be a return to the dark ages.

Wurzelbert

cruasder777 wrote: »

British is Celt/Gael, Saxon, Viking and Norman.

Could a Pakistani be a member of the Sioux tribe ?

Im dealing in logic here, not pc, not emotion.

A nation is its people, the people must have a shared history and ancestry otherwise its not a nation,its a collection of fragmented groups. Obviously there will always be some outsiders who do well, but that does not negate the above point.

There is a deliberate agenda to destroy native European people.


Islam has been used as a weapon against us by cultural Marxists.[...]

true, unfortunately...the age of (european, for now) nation states and peoples is coming to an end; it has been decided and is being implemented before our eyes...we are fighting a losing battle here...

RobYourBuilder

Your Superior wrote: »

He is British and he is a Muslim, not sure why that is so difficult for you. It's like being an Irish Catholic.

"He is British" can plausibly mean at least three different things:

●He is a British citizen.

●He is ethnically British.

●He is culturally British.

They are all orthogonal concepts, you can be any of those without being the other.

However, people, such as yourself, would like to abolish the latter two, and insist that only the first exists. 

Nodin

cruasder777 wrote: »

Your are out of your depth, now you rely on glib statements.


Advanced cultures taking over more primitive cultures is a fact of life.

Even Marx recognised that.

Islam and mass third world immigration taking over Europe is socially engineered. To destroy European peoples.

By who?

RobYourBuilder

Your Superior wrote: »

With weak land borders that give easy access to Europe...

The EU is currently receiving record numbers of 'boat people' via the Mediterranean. Thousands of illegals a week enter Italian waters, for example. The smugglers recently threatened to open fire on the Italian coastguard.

http://maritime-connector.com/news/security-and-piracy/armed-migrant-smugglers-threatened-italian-coast-guard/



Now, the Italians fear that ISIS will use the smugglers to get their people onto European soil. Once in, they can wreak havoc. There are upto 500,000 people waiting to make the crossing. Very easy to smuggle a handful of ISIS members in with them.

ROME — Last weekend in Italy, as the threat of ISIS in Libya hit home with a new video addressed to “the nation signed with the blood of the cross” and the warning, “we are south of Rome,” Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi shuttered the Italian embassy in Tripoli and raised his fist with the threat of impending military action. Never mind that Italy has only 5,000 troops available that are even close to deployable, according to the defense ministry. Or that the military budget was cut by 40 percent two years ago, which has kept the acquisition of 90 F-35 fighter jets hanging in the balance and left the country combat-challenged to lead any mission—especially one against an enemy like the Islamic State.

In fact, Renzi didn’t specify exactly who would wield that military might, and, two days later, when no one volunteered to lead the charge, he backtracked. “It’s not the time for a military intervention,” Renzi told an Italian television station Monday night and said the United Nations had to lead the way. “Our proposal is to wait for the U.N. Security Council. The strength of the U.N. is decidedly superior to that of the radical militias.”

Whether the time is right or not, there is no question that there is a palpable tension in Italy over the ISIS threat—Libya is just 109 miles away from the island of Lampedusa and 300 miles from Sicily—made worse by a 64 percent increase in illegal migrant arrivals by sea since last year. In all of 2014, more than 170,000 people arrived from Libya and Turkey, the highest number ever recorded. Last weekend, as the embassy staff made their way to Italy on a mercantile ship, 2,164 migrants left the same Libyan shores en route to Sicily. The week before, more than 300 people were lost in the same seas as their rickety fishing boats capsized before rescuers could save them.

Anti-immigration politicians have argued for months that it would take little for jihadi fighters to infiltrate a migrant boat and effectively end up taxied into Italy by rescue ships and the Italian navy. In a biting editorial in Il Giornalenewspaper, owned by the Silvio Berlusconi family, Sergio Rame hypothesized that the recent influx was an attempt by terrorists to effectively “smoke out” the Italian navy into rescuing the migrants, in an attempt to lure the boats close to Libyan shores in order to launch an attack. The Italian government, which supports the rescue of migrants fleeing war, dismissed the theory.

Meanwhile, the Italian government said it is prepared to deploy 500 special anti-terrorism police to protect sensitive tourist sites in Rome.  

What is disturbing is that something is drastically changing in the migrant-shuttling business, which has led defense analysts to warn that Italy has never been so exposed to an attack. For the first time since Italy started officially rescuing migrants in 2013—first through its now-defunct Mare Nostrum program and later through the European Union’s border control Frontex Triton mission—the smugglers, who usually melt in with the migrants, are armed and dangerous. Last weekend, smugglers wielding Kalashnikovs fought the Italian coast guard rescue boat to wrestle back a smuggler ship after the human cargo had been rescued and the boat seized. They hauled the boat back towards Libya, presumably to fill it up again. The Office of Migration in Rome says there could be as many as half a million people in camps waiting to come to Italy and the unrest will push them out faster. 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/17/italy-fears-isis-invasion-from-libya.html

cruasder777

Nodin wrote: »

By who?

After WW2, western leaders designed a plan to stop future world wars between nation states, they founded the Bilderberg group and EU.

The strategy is to dilute national identity by having nations so diverse they are no longer ethnically populated states. Rather fragmented populations with no common identity....Look at London.

It also ties nicely with having trans national identities for global capitalists, who can then sell the same products to hundreds of millions as their consumers.

Without doubt a strategy is being implemented and any voice against it undermined at all levels.

But you cant control history, the Islamification of Europe and conflict it will bring is the blowback they never saw coming.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group



In 2001, Denis Healey, a Bilderberg group founder, ex UK govt minister and, for 30 years, a steering committee member, said: "To say we were striving for a one-world government is exaggerated, but not wholly unfair. Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn't go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless. So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing."[47]


In August 2010 former Cuban president Fidel Castro wrote a controversial article for the Cuban Communist Party newspaper Granma in which he cited Daniel Estulin's 2006 book The Secrets of the Bilderberg Club,[50] which, as quoted by Castro, describes "sinister cliques and the Bilderberg lobbyists" manipulating the public "to install a world government that knows no borders and is not accountable to anyone but its own self".[45]

Gatling

There some ...... posters on here .

anyhow now the Italians are getting twitchy about isis it's probably too late to realise europe isn't ready to face a major incident ,
Thousands are flooding into Europe every year if I read correctly didn't Germany taking 200,000 syrian refugees ' s over the last 2 years add the amount of refugees flooding Italy with no intelligence of who's who are where exactly they came from .

Donkey Oaty

cruasder777 wrote: »

In 2001, Denis Healey, a Bilderberg group founder, ex UK govt minister and, for 30 years, a steering committee member, said: "To say we were striving for a one-world government is exaggerated, but not wholly unfair. Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn't go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless. So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing."[47]

The final three paragraphs of that Ronson interview with Healy are good.

RobYourBuilder

Our own, Peter Sutherland, is another one.

The EU should "do its best to undermine" the "homogeneity" of its member states, the UN's special representative for migration has said.

Peter Sutherland told peers the future prosperity of many EU states depended on them becoming multicultural.

He also suggested the UK government's immigration policy had no basis in international law.

He was being quizzed by the Lords EU home affairs sub-committee which is investigating global migration.

Mr Sutherland, who is non-executive chairman of Goldman Sachs International and a former chairman of oil giant BP, heads the Global Forum on Migration and Development, which brings together representatives of 160 nations to share policy ideas.

He told the House of Lords committee migration was a "crucial dynamic for economic growth" in some EU nations "however difficult it may be to explain this to the citizens of those states".

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-18519395

Shurimgreat

I'd rather Bilderberg ran the world than ISIS that's for sure. I know that's going to really antagonise the far left posters on here.

Donkey Oaty

Shurimgreat wrote: »

I'd rather Bilderberg ran the world than ISIS that's for sure. I know that's going to really antagonise the far left posters on here.

As things stand, it's not so much that Bilderberg runs the world - it's more that the people who run the world make up Bilderberg.

wretcheddomain

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

As things stand, it's not so much that Bilderberg runs the world - it's more that the people who run the world make up Bilderberg.

Shadow chancellor of the UK, Ed Balls, was at one of the recent Bilderberg meetings. Suffice to say that that's evidence enough, if evidence was ever needed - that an elected cretin like him isn't part of a worldwide conspiracy for a unigovernmental world.

cruasder777

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

Our own, Peter Sutherland, is another one.



http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-18519395

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sutherland

That reptilian f..ker is the chairman of the Bilderberg group, EU Commissioner and head of the World Trade Organisation, as well as a Vatican banker.

Also a supporter of various uprisings in Libya, Egypt etc, wants to weave stronger EU links with the middle East. Has an agenda to destroy European identity with unlimited immigration.

wretcheddomain

cruasder777 wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sutherland

That reptilian f..ker is the chairman of the Bilderberg group, EU Commissioner and head of the World Trade Organisation, as well as a Vatican banker.

Also a supporter of various uprisings in Libya, Egypt etc, wants to weave stronger EU links with the middle East. Has an agenda to destroy European identity with unlimited immigration.

You seem to have an irrational phobia of successful people.

It's like nobody can be successful without your ilk coming along and saying it's all about world domination.

It's absurd.

RobYourBuilder

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

There is even a possibility that people with a different skin colour to crusader who were born on the UK mainland might actually be more British than himself. After all their geographical origin is Great Britain proper, not the afterthought. :P

So someone whose ancestry on these islands probably reaches back a thousand years or more, is less British than somebody whose family is here a wet day, in historical terms?

Would you have the gall to repeat such nonsense to a member of the indigenous people of New Zealand? I hope, for your sake, that you wouldn't.

cruasder777

Victims of the Bilderberg group and cultural Marxists :




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_FB1g52Goo


Islam has historically spread by sword and rape, its no different today.

RobYourBuilder

wretcheddomain wrote: »

You seem to have an irrational phobia of successful people.

It's like nobody can be successful without your ilk coming along and saying it's all about world domination.

It's absurd.

Yes, I've a 'phobia' of rich and powerful folk who suggest that 'the EU should "do its best to undermine" the "homogeneity" of its member states.' I would suggest that millions of my fellow Europeans would feel the same. Another thing, why do these people never suggest the same for Asian and African states? Why does Europe 'need' to become more multicultural and less homogenous?

cruasder777

wretcheddomain wrote: »

You seem to have an irrational phobia of successful people.

It's like nobody can be successful without your ilk coming along and saying it's all about world domination.

It's absurd.

Stop posting bs.

The facts are there.

He admits he wants open borders and no national identity.

A world of indoctrinated slaves ruled by banks and big business from cradle to grave.

IrishTrajan

>reptile

Get out of here, David Icke, you're not the second coming of Jesus.

RobYourBuilder

cruasder777 wrote: »

Stop posting bs.

The facts are there.

He admits he wants open borders and no national identity.

He helped found the Erasmus program. I'll give him credit for that.

cruasder777

IrishTrajan wrote: »

>reptile

Get out of here, David Icke, you're not the second coming of Jesus.

What would you call him ?

IrishTrajan

cruasder777 wrote: »

What would you call him ?

An idiot, a charlatan, a crook, a bullsh1t artist.

He makes close to £2 million per year from people believing his claims, you'd think his opposition to the wealthy would result in him selling his stuff at cost price, not getting rich off the disenfranchisement of society.

midaev1

cruasder777 wrote: »

Victims of the Bilderberg group and cultural Marxists

Islam has historically spread by sword and rape, its no different today.

bud this is bull**** u know that... by sword. hahahhaha
opss forgot. and by rape? u must be kidding.

I'd rather talk here about group or number of ppl who aiming to reach there goals than religion. leave belief out of this bud. there been always some lunatics who kill poor ppl. likes Hitler... Stalin.... ect.