Former Boxing Promotor Frank Maloney to undergo gender reassignment surgery

RDM_83 again · 12-08-2014 9:44pm

Lyaiera thanks for the extremely informative reply.

Links234 could you see the silver lining in this situation, isn't this story actually in a rather strange way a positive one in relation to Transexuality (provided its considered genuine by professionals), its very publicly showing how it isn't just confused teens or stereotypically 'effeminate men' who have a desire to change gender/sex, you have somebody who's been involved in very 'masculine' activities their entire lives and who's views could be considered pretty much the polar opposite of the enlightened broad minded liberal, but they still consider Transition as the right thing to do for them and the response to this has been broadly positive.

Annasopra · 12-08-2014 9:53pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Which pretty much sums this whole thread up!

Not at all. There has been some good discussion on this thread.

Annasopra · 12-08-2014 9:59pm

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Lyaiera thanks for the extremely informative reply.

Links234 could you see the silver lining in this situation

I don't want to speak for links but I think it would be very difficult for links to do that. Time and time again as a person her whole identity is questioned, ridiculed, then they claim she's mentally ill and that she doesn't really exist at all. I mean these things are said about trans people in general but I know if I was Links or Lyaiera I would find it hard not to take that personally and be hurt and angry.

RDM_83 again · 12-08-2014 10:32pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I don't want to speak for links but I think it would be very difficult for links to do that. Time and time again as a person her whole identity is questioned, ridiculed, then they claim she's mentally ill and that she doesn't really exist at all. I mean these things are said about trans people in general but I know if I was Links or Lyaiera I would find it hard not to take that personally and be hurt and angry.

I get that completely but I'm not so much talking about this thread as the wider response in the media and people in the Boxing Fraternity (at least in public) has been at least broadly positive. And the fact that Malony's decision highlights how gender dysphoria is something that effects all types/backgrounds of people rather than the cliche's i mentioned in the previous post.

Lyaiera · 12-08-2014 10:45pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I don't want to speak for links but I think it would be very difficult for links to do that. Time and time again as a person her whole identity is questioned, ridiculed, then they claim she's mentally ill and that she doesn't really exist at all. I mean these things are said about trans people in general but I know if I was Links or Lyaiera I would find it hard not to take that personally and be hurt and angry.

I've been thinking about this since you posted it. Some of the stuff said got me a little upset, but I got over it quickly. You get looks in the street, a few laughs, but mostly it's fine. The big problem with such vociferous reactions on here is that it makes you doubt the goodness of people.

I haven't been out much, only to a few places where I know I'm welcome and will have people to support me if there's trouble: bartenders who know me or places known for their "good image." I've had a broadly good experience. The problem with the types of reactions on here is that you begin to doubt people on the street, you begin to wonder what reactions you'll get if you venture further from the areas you know you'll be looked after and safe and it makes those initial steps outside your comfort zone very hard.

There are a couple of places I'd go to when I was in dude mode, places I like a lot. I like the music, I like the atmosphere, I like the decor, etc. When people react so viciously and angrily on here it makes stepping into those places quite hard because you don't know how many people there hold these opinions. With temperatures running high on here it makes you fear that there's going to be one group, or even one person who makes your presence an issue and a big deal.

It's a cliche but bathrooms are a big worry for trans people. I was in my local last Saturday and finally felt confident enough to use the women's. This was aided by necessity because there's no lock on the cubicle in the men's and peeing in a skirt is quite hard at a urinal, not to mention extremely embarrassing (not that I've tried.) I was in my local early and went to use the bathroom. The barman, someone I'm friends with came in to change the toilet paper. He saw me, and gave me time to wash my hands and I went back to sitting at the bar. I was worried he'd say something, and this is from someone who has been nothing but kind and gentle with me. I was doubting him because of the reactions I know some people have, as evidenced by this thread. In the end he came up and smiled at me and winked in a "You're ok, don't worry, I've got your back" kind of way. It set me at ease, but it was tough. I was in a place I'm very comfortable in and with people I'm comfortable with and I was still fearful.

If I wasn't in a place I'm comfortable in and where I know the regulars I don't know how I'd handle it. Would the bouncers give me hassle trying to get in tot he bar? I don't have ID of me in "female mode" so that's an easy way of keeping me out if they wanted to. If I do make it in will someone cause a scene, will someone yell something at me, will someone even assault me? And how do I manage the situation should that happen? If I call a manager the manager might not be kind to my situation. I don't try on clothes in shops, for a similar reason with changing rooms. I eyeball the sizes of what I'm buying and take them home, all because I'm fearful of people's reactions.

When people react with hostility, as they do in this thread it makes you doubt every situation in life. You never know if the person you're dealing with is someone harbouring those types of thoughts and is just waiting for an opportunity to ridicule you and shame you, or worse. As I said, I've broadly only experienced kindness, but threads like this make you doubt the goodness of people.

How Soon Is Now · 12-08-2014 10:59pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Not at all. There has been some good discussion on this thread.

I wonder how many took it in though in fairness?

Annasopra · 12-08-2014 11:16pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I wonder how many took it in though in fairness?

If its only one thats still a good thing.

Annasopra · 12-08-2014 11:17pm

Thanks Lyaiera for sharing.

Omackeral · 13-08-2014 12:29am

Just a quick note to Lyaiera. People online have the veil of being anonymous. The term keyboard warrior comes to mind. So while close minded people can think what they want, I bet you the majority wouldn't have the balls to say anything. Not that I'm trying to undermine your feelings and anxieties, because that's something only someone in your position can appreciate on such a scale.

That was a wonderful insight into your mindset by the way, and as Joey says, thanks for sharing and again, educating myself. I can't believe that a former boxing promoters transition has been the catalyst for me learning of this whole new avenue of society! It's unexpected to say the least. Flippin' boards.ie

Annasopra · 13-08-2014 9:30am

This is a really good video

http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/aug/12/transgender-kellie-maloney-lgbt-sex-change

Penny Tration · 13-08-2014 10:51am

Something that I forgot to mention previously, in response to people calling transgendered people mentally ill - I've never met a single transgender person who was allowed to medically transition, by starting on blockers or otherwise, until they had undergone psychiatric/psychological testing to make sure they're making their decision to transition while of sound mind.

So I don't really see how they can be called mentally ill.

floggg · 13-08-2014 12:13pm

The first three pages of this thread made me pretty sad.

I get that people may not understand or agree with "trans issues" (so to speak) but I don't get why people go so out of their way to argue against, demean and belittle trans people and their identities, and to effectively tell them they are either suffering from a mental disorder or choosing to be different for the sake of it.

Seriously - what difference is it to other people. What's wrong in your life that you can just live and let live, and feel the need to argue on something you don't have any real understanding of (either in terms of experiences or the medicine or science behind it) without caring about the fact your are likely causing a lot of upset to posters and readers here.

How Soon Is Now · 13-08-2014 12:14pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Just a quick note to Lyaiera. People online have the veil of being anonymous. The term keyboard warrior comes to mind. So while close minded people can think what they want, I bet you the majority wouldn't have the balls to say anything. Not that I'm trying to undermine your feelings and anxieties, because that's something only someone in your position can appreciate on such a scale.

That was a wonderful insight into your mindset by the way, and as Joey says, thanks for sharing and again, educating myself. I can't believe that a former boxing promoters transition has been the catalyst for me learning of this whole new avenue of society! It's unexpected to say the least. Flippin' boards.ie

I wouldnt count on that to be honest. You will get some people who talk out of there arse on here but a lot of people what they say is what they are.

The way i look at this and many other subjects is peoples extreme views tend not to change as much as some would like. Your only wasting your own time trying to convince so many people to ''Think your way'' Just get on with it.

For example no amount of ''Facts'' or ''Science'' would change my mind if im adament about something your fighting a losing battle. Id imagine im clearly not the only one like this around.

Annasopra · 13-08-2014 12:45pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I wouldnt count on that to be honest. You will get some people who talk out of there arse on here but a lot of people what they say is what they are.

The way i look at this and many other subjects is peoples extreme views tend not to change as much as some would like. Your only wasting your own time trying to convince so many people to ''Think your way'' Just get on with it.

For example no amount of ''Facts'' or ''Science'' would change my mind if im adament about something your fighting a losing battle. Id imagine im clearly not the only one like this around.

Sure if we all took that attitude we'd still be living in a conservative hellhole with women voting, condoms, divorce and gay male sex illegal.

P_1 · 13-08-2014 1:42pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I wouldnt count on that to be honest. You will get some people who talk out of there arse on here but a lot of people what they say is what they are.

The way i look at this and many other subjects is peoples extreme views tend not to change as much as some would like. Your only wasting your own time trying to convince so many people to ''Think your way'' Just get on with it.

For example no amount of ''Facts'' or ''Science'' would change my mind if im adament about something your fighting a losing battle. Id imagine im clearly not the only one like this around.

A fair point I'll grant you but progress won't be made if you don't have sections of society attempting to change the status quo and lead the rest of the society into considering thinking that way

How Soon Is Now · 13-08-2014 1:43pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Sure if we all took that attitude we'd still be living in a conservative hellhole with women voting, condoms, divorce and gay male sex illegal.

Do u not think yourself that even when steps are taken and the world "moves forward" that really when it's all said and done it doesn't change how most people feel. If anything it draws out the rival voices even more.

If you don't agree with something and it gets more light and praise and time it's gonna turn u against it even more.

I'm not saying everyone should just give up I'm saying really at the end of the day the world ain't gonna change the way u want it to. You have control over your own life and basically at times not even that!

Annasopra · 13-08-2014 2:54pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Do u not think yourself that even when steps are taken and the world "moves forward" that really when it's all said and done it doesn't change how most people feel. If anything it draws out the rival voices even more.

If you don't agree with something and it gets more light and praise and time it's gonna turn u against it even more.

I'm not saying everyone should just give up I'm saying really at the end of the day the world ain't gonna change the way u want it to. You have control over your own life and basically at times not even that!

No. I don't think that at all. Attitudes completely change over time on social issues because people dare to speak out and have their voices heard. Look at the issue of marriage equality. Peoples feelings on that issue have COMPLETELY transformed in 10 years. Look at divorce. Peoples feeling on that have completely changed in 20 years.

I think your attitude is about completely giving up. If we all accepted things the way they are there would be no such thing as workers rights or the abolishment of slavery. If we all just accepted things as they are the world would be a completely horrible place for all minorities and for women. What you are saying is defeatist.

Social movements have changed the world we live in and continue to do so everyday.

A few workers in Dunnes Stores had a profound effect on South Africa
The bravery of David Norris and Lydia Foy and many others who worked with them and alongside them had a profound effect on Irish LGBT people
Mary McGee stood up and went to court for her right to contraception and she had a profound effect on Irish women and mens lives.

PopePalpatine · 13-08-2014 2:55pm

If you insulted fat people on Boards, you'd get away with it not because Boards are biased towards protecting "special" groups of people, but because fat people are generally responsible for their own ill health - let's just leave aside whatever degree to which food and drinks manufacturers are responsible.

If you insult an LGBT person though (e.g. "gay boys"/"fag hags") then you're attacking someone who's not responsible for their own sexuality. Take for example:

fran17 wrote: »

The man obviously has some serious mental issues as well as physical. Treat the mind before mutilating the body IMHO.

I seriously doubt Fran was referring to the range of psychological tests someone must go through in order to be approved for a sex change, but probably more along the lines of something from the days being LGBT was seen as a mental illness.

How Soon Is Now · 13-08-2014 3:09pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

No. I don't think that at all. Attitudes completely change over time on social issues because people dare to speak out and have their voices heard. Look at the issue of marriage equality. Peoples feelings on that issue have COMPLETELY transformed in 10 years. Look at divorce. Peoples feeling on that have completely changed in 20 years.

I think your attitude is about completely giving up. If we all accepted things the way they are there would be no such thing as workers rights or the abolishment of slavery. If we all just accepted things as they are the world would be a completely horrible place for all minorities and for women. What you are saying is defeatist.

Social movements have changed the world we live in and continue to do so everyday.

A few workers in Dunnes Stores had a profound effect on South Africa
The bravery of David Norris and Lydia Foy and many others who worked with them and alongside them had a profound effect on Irish LGBT people
Mary McGee stood up and went to court for her right to contraception and she had a profound effect on Irish women and mens lives.

The last thing i believe in is just giving up or having anything to do with defeatist. If i was that type i wouldnt be the person i am and wouldnt have the views i do.

What im saying is not about giving about its about accepting you cant win every battle. You cant turn everyone. Some might change a lot more never will.

By the way u mentioned society changing because people speak out well that wont always go in your favor either will it? You be surprised what one man speaking out can do.......

How Soon Is Now · 13-08-2014 3:12pm

PopePalpatine wrote: »

If you insulted fat people on Boards, you'd get away with it not because Boards are biased towards protecting "special" groups of people, but because fat people are generally responsible for their own ill health - let's just leave aside whatever degree to which food and drinks manufacturers are responsible.

If you insult an LGBT person though (e.g. "gay boys"/"fag hags") then you're attacking someone who's not responsible for their own sexuality. Take for example:

So your saying its ok to target certain people basically because you think its there own fault? Grand ill remember that :pac:

RDM_83 again · 13-08-2014 4:55pm

PopePalpatine wrote: »

If you insulted fat people on Boards, you'd get away with it not because Boards are biased towards protecting "special" groups of people, but because fat people are generally responsible for their own ill health - let's just leave aside whatever degree to which food and drinks manufacturers are responsible.

If you insult an LGBT person though (e.g. "gay boys"/"fag hags") then you're attacking someone who's not responsible for their own sexuality.

Aren't Fag Hags straight woman who only hang around exclusively with gay men so aren't they legitimate targets for abuse according to your rules?or has the meaning changed

Annasopra · 13-08-2014 4:56pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

The last thing i believe in is just giving up or having anything to do with defeatist. If i was that type i wouldnt be the person i am and wouldnt have the views i do.

What im saying is not about giving about its about accepting you cant win every battle. You cant turn everyone. Some might change a lot more never will.

By the way u mentioned society changing because people speak out well that wont always go in your favor either will it? You be surprised what one man speaking out can do.......

The thing is some people are able to take on larger battles when they have support behind them. Larger battles can be won by people working together in social movements.

One man or woman speaking can sometimes have negative effects but in many cases it can have very positive effects

For me Obamas quote works really well

"One voice can change a room, and if one voice can change a room, then it can change a city, and if it can change a city, it can change a state, and if it change a state, it can change a nation, and if it can change a nation, it can change the world. Your voice can change the world."

Annasopra · 13-08-2014 4:57pm

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Aren't Fag straight woman straight woman who only hang around exclusively with gay men so aren't they legitimate targets for abuse according to your rules?or has the meaning changed

What now?

RDM_83 again · 13-08-2014 5:20pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

What now?

Oops corrected it to include the Hag and deleted the woman woman

How Soon Is Now · 13-08-2014 5:24pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

What now?

I assume he was trying to say fag hags wouldn't be in the category of lgbt as someone mentioned ?

Based on what i know a fag hag is anyway *Woman who mostly hangs around with gay men*

How Soon Is Now · 13-08-2014 5:29pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

The thing is some people are able to take on larger battles when they have support behind them. Larger battles can be won by people working together in social movements.

One man or woman speaking can sometimes have negative effects but in many cases it can have very positive effects

For me Obamas quote works really well

"One voice can change a room, and if one voice can change a room, then it can change a city, and if it can change a city, it can change a state, and if it change a state, it can change a nation, and if it can change a nation, it can change the world. Your voice can change the world."

Id imagine the majority of people wont air there views in public or anywhere really because there afraid to. So a voice weather its one or more for these kinds of people well it can go a long way down the line.

You could say this for good or bad views really depends what your stance is.

Id say for example theres a lot of everyday people out there with very dark or controversial views but they aint got the spine to say it in public. Why do u think theres so many mouths on here?

PopePalpatine · 13-08-2014 5:38pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I assume he was trying to say fag hags wouldn't be in the category of lgbt as someone mentioned ?

Based on what i know a fag hag is anyway *Woman who mostly hangs around with gay men*

If I remember correctly, in the post I remember the term "fag hag" being used, the poster was using that to describe anyone who supports LGBT rights, and not merely women who hang around gay men.

I'm surprised nobody tackled the part of my post quoting another user saying that Moloney was mentally deranged.

How Soon Is Now · 13-08-2014 6:02pm

PopePalpatine wrote: »

If I remember correctly, in the post I remember the term "fag hag" being used, the poster was using that to describe anyone who supports LGBT rights, and not merely women who hang around gay men.

I'm surprised nobody tackled the part of my post quoting another user saying that Moloney was mentally deranged.

I dunno im just going by what i know it to mean anything else.......

marklazarcovic · 13-08-2014 6:14pm

live n let live,worry about yerselves

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 13-08-2014 6:26pm

Transgender threads are gas, it's not often you see the "PC THOUGHT POLICE GONE MAD BLAAAAAAAAAAH" crowd aligning themselves with radical feminism, which in itself should maybe make all parties involved rethink things a bit.

Dunno anything about the woman in the OP, but in general I don't care about transgender people. As in I don't care about the fact that they're transgender, I do care about them as people, people who are deserving of support and at least an attempt at understanding, just like everyone else. I might do the odd double take or use the wrong pronoun from time to time but in my experience it's not that kind of thing that gets you criticised, it's being actively negative, insulting and belittling. It's very easy not to be actively negative, insulting and belittling towards people and actions which are doing no earthly harm to anyone, and criticising and arguing with people who ARE behaving like that isn't extremist or thought policing or anything.

If I saw someone walking out into the middle of the road and taking a shít on a continuous white line because it wasn't a broken white line I'd probably have some strong opinions on it, not because I love continuous white lines and think everyone has to love them or else they're bigoted, but because shítting all over a continuous white line is a ridiculous thing to do, just like trying to argue (for no discernible reason) that transgender people are mentally ill perverts.

How Soon Is Now · 13-08-2014 6:52pm

Jewel Gorgeous Toilet wrote: »

Transgender threads are gas, it's not often you see the "PC THOUGHT POLICE GONE MAD BLAAAAAAAAAAH" crowd aligning themselves with radical feminism, which in itself should maybe make all parties involved rethink things a bit.

Dunno anything about the woman in the OP, but in general I don't care about transgender people. As in I don't care about the fact that they're transgender, I do care about them as people, people who are deserving of support and at least an attempt at understanding, just like everyone else. I might do the odd double take or use the wrong pronoun from time to time but in my experience it's not that kind of thing that gets you criticised, it's being actively negative, insulting and belittling. It's very easy not to be actively negative, insulting and belittling towards people and actions which are doing no earthly harm to anyone, and criticising and arguing with people who ARE behaving like that isn't extremist or thought policing or anything.

If I saw someone walking out into the middle of the road and taking a shít on a continuous white line because it wasn't a broken white line I'd probably have some strong opinions on it, not because I love continuous white lines and think everyone has to love them or else they're bigoted, but because shítting all over a continuous white line is a ridiculous thing to do, just like trying to argue (for no discernible reason) that transgender people are mentally ill perverts.

Right......

So let me get this straight then you have a thing for white lines ? Am i right?

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 13-08-2014 6:54pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Right......

So let me get this straight then you have a thing for white lines ? Am i right?

Oooh, getting RACIST now are we???

How Soon Is Now · 13-08-2014 6:59pm

Jewel Gorgeous Toilet wrote: »

Oooh, getting RACIST now are we???

Yaaaa so what!!
Ya starting!!??

:pac:

P_1 · 13-08-2014 7:49pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Right......

So let me get this straight then you have a thing for white lines ? Am i right?

Jaypers lads and lassies, who knew Robbie Fowler posted on Boards :pac::P

efb · 13-08-2014 7:51pm

P_1 wrote: »

Jaypers lads and lassies, who knew Robbie Fowler posted on Boards :pac::P

About the right IQ for AH

Czarcasm · 13-08-2014 7:59pm

efb wrote: »

About the right IQ for AH

Judgemental much?

Ironic, isn't it?

How Soon Is Now · 13-08-2014 8:02pm

P_1 wrote: »

Jaypers lads and lassies, who knew Robbie Fowler posted on Boards :pac::P

Liverpool uhhhhhhh

Ha :-)

LiveIsLife · 23-08-2014 11:44am

Papers are reporting that he/she wants to be a man now.

Annasopra · 23-08-2014 11:47am

LiveIsLife wrote: »

Papers are reporting that he/she wants to be a man now.

Yeah from one emotional conversation. She's being through a difficult period. Transitioning is always difficult.

P_1 · 23-08-2014 11:52am

Isn't she on Big Brother or some similar reality show crap? Seriously wondering why someone'd do that while they're transitioning.

The Purveyor of Truth · 23-08-2014 12:04pm

P_1 wrote: »

Isn't she on Big Brother or some similar reality show crap? Seriously wondering why someone'd do that while they're transitioning.

For acceptance perhaps?

Nadia Almada won the show after she had a sex change and so it's hardly an outlandish expectancy of them given that Nadia actually went on to win the show that year.

Unbelievably that was ten years ago. Where does time go.

P_1 · 23-08-2014 12:06pm

The Purveyor of Truth wrote: »

For acceptance perhaps?

Nadia Almada won the show after she had a sex change and so it's hardly an outlandish expectancy of them given that Nadia actually went on to win the show that year.

Unbelievably that was ten years ago. Where does time go.

Possibly but I'd have thought that during transition one would be at quite a vulnerable stage and going on the likes of Big Brother would be an ill advised move.

Annasopra · 23-08-2014 12:11pm

The Purveyor of Truth wrote: »

For acceptance perhaps?

Nadia Almada won the show after she had a sex change and so it's hardly an outlandish expectancy of them given that Nadia actually went on to win the show that year.

Unbelievably that was ten years ago. Where does time go.

I think thats different Nadia was out as trans for a long time and had gone through transition. This is all still very new for Kellie.

The Purveyor of Truth · 23-08-2014 12:19pm

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I think thats different Nadia was out as trans for a long time and had gone through transition. This is all still very new for Kellie.

I didn't say it was the same.

I said that because Nadia received such overwhelming acceptance from the public for being transsexual, when she had felt she would not, then it is not outlandish a thought for Maloney to think that the public might also accept him for wanting to make a similar transition.

I've been watching the show and some in the house don't seem as convinced as others, but she is coming across well and have to say, coming across as very genuine.

You can watch the episodes here:

youtube.com/channel/UCcOUGNCB3G5KdXgG_q-kvOw/videos

Lyaiera · 23-08-2014 1:01pm

P_1 wrote: »

Possibly but I'd have thought that during transition one would be at quite a vulnerable stage and going on the likes of Big Brother would be an ill advised move.

I'd agree. But then again I think BB is exploitation TV. A lot of transitions that have happened in the public spotlight have done a lot of damage to the person transitioning. I know I couldn't do it. Or at least it feels like I couldn't do it.

The Purveyor of Truth · 24-08-2014 2:43pm

Maloney may have shot himself in the foot with regards to his desire for acceptence from the public as on Thrusday night Maloney had a row with the Will & Grace actor Leslie Jordan, squaring up to him, calling him a "little Queen" and telling him that she would "knock him spark out" if he touched her again (go to 38m mark):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foYpiwmg03M

Too Tough To Die · 27-08-2014 4:49pm

Lol, didn't know Frank was on Celeb Big Brother. That was fast.

Lyaiera · 27-08-2014 4:59pm

There might be a Big Brother thread in the TV forum if you're interested.

Edit: Actually, no. I checked. They don't see the point of discussing what happens on Big Brother. Sorry about getting your hopes up.

super_furry · 27-08-2014 5:04pm

This might be an ignorant question but is Kellie wearing a wig? Frank was bald but do the hormones she takes make her hair grow back or is that just something that she has to work around?

Too Tough To Die · 27-08-2014 5:10pm

Lyaiera wrote: »

There might be a Big Brother thread in the TV forum if you're interested.

Edit: Actually, no. I checked. They don't see the point of discussing what happens on Big Brother. Sorry about getting your hopes up.

No worries, i don't have the channel anyways.

Former Boxing Promotor Frank Maloney to undergo gender reassignment surgery

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