Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

Mr Freeze

Frank O. Pinion wrote: »

I would like to see a live-action Fantastic Four series, but I suppose they're too big of characters to have on just ABC/Netflix.

I don't think they'd even do well on TV. Even before the 3 poor films, I'd say there wasn't much interest in them.

They only keep making films to hold on to the rights.

Penn

Penn wrote: »

I'd say it'd be more unlikely due to how much CGI would be involved, as all their powers are pretty CGI-heavy.

Ezcept Sue in fairness

Average-Ro

They should do a X-Men:First Class/ Captain America 1 style period movie with the Fantastic 4, set in the 60's.

Maybe some crossover with Hank Pym in his prime as Ant-Man.

Having old Reed Richards in Current Day MCU as a mentor type could be cool as well.

Penn

Average-Ro wrote: »

They should do a X-Men:First Class/ Captain America 1 style period movie with the Fantastic 4, set in the 60's.

Maybe some crossover with Hank Pym in his prime as Ant-Man.

Having old Reed Richards in Current Day MCU as a mentor type could be cool as well.

I was actually thinking a young Johnny Storm could be just the type of character to replace Tony Stark.

Average-Ro

Penn wrote: »

I was actually thinking a young Johnny Storm could be just the type of character to replace Tony Stark.

Scott Lang is already a charismatic, wise-cracking, super smart engineer.

IF there has to be another Fantastic 4 movie, I'd just like to see them do something different.

Foxtrol

Average-Ro wrote: »

They should do a X-Men:First Class/ Captain America 1 style period movie with the Fantastic 4, set in the 60's.

Maybe some crossover with Hank Pym in his prime as Ant-Man.

Having old Reed Richards in Current Day MCU as a mentor type could be cool as well.

I like this but there'd have to be some sort of very good explanation as to why/how the FF team have never been mentioned or tried to help during previous situations. I'm not one to quibble over all the Avengers not showing up to every event but FF never appearing, especially during the likes of the attack on NYC, would be difficult to explain.

Average-Ro

Foxtrol wrote: »

I like this but there'd have to be some sort of very good explanation as to why/how the FF team have never been mentioned or tried to help during previous situations. I'm not one to quibble over all the Avengers not showing up to every event but FF never appearing, especially during the likes of the attack on NYC, would be difficult to explain.

A good writer could come up with something quite plausible (Besides the fact that they'd be quite old in Current Day MCU)

And you wouldn't even HAVE to have them in current day MCU. Have their movies set in the 60s and 70s with ties to Hank Pym, Peggy Carter, Howard Stark etc.

You'd have a 3rd dimension to the films. Current Day MCU, Galactic MCU (Guardians, Inhumans etc.) and Period MCU (What a mess that would be to try and keep straight for writers:))

McLoughlin

Foxtrol wrote: »

I like this but there'd have to be some sort of very good explanation as to why/how the FF team have never been mentioned or tried to help during previous situations. I'm not one to quibble over all the Avengers not showing up to every event but FF never appearing, especially during the likes of the attack on NYC, would be difficult to explain.

Stuck in an alternate dimension ....

Agent Coulson

UPDATE: The Marvel deal for Fantastic Four might also include the rights to Galactus, Silver Surfer and Dr Doom too..

Update: Having asked for some clarification from our source, we understand that the deal Marvel have made with Fox - which will see Fantastic Four returned to the Marvel fold in exchange for the X-Men TV rights - also includes the rights to villains Galactus and Doctor Doom, as well as the Silver Surfer.
If the deal pans out as our contact says it will, this means that two of the biggest villains in comic books will be able to appear elsewhere in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and not just in the 2020 film we've heard is already in place.
Our original story follows...
Given that Fox's Fantastic Four reboot sputtered so dramatically over the summer, it's little surprise that the studio's redoubling its attention on a property with a proven history at the box-office: X-Men.
X-Men: Apocalypse is due out next May, and it's a sequel director Bryan singer has called a "conclusion of six X-Men films, yet a potential rebirth of younger, newer characters."
More recently, we've also heard that Fox and Marvel have struck an unprecedented deal which will allow Fox to make two X-Men television series, Hellfire and Legion. Now, if you've been following the storied history of Marvel character rights, you'll know what a big deal this is, and that a considerable amount of behind-the-scenes bargaining must have taken place in order to make it happen.
Within the past few hours, we've been handed some information that may explain how Fox and Marvel arrived at that deal.
According to our source, Fox were given the TV rights for X-Men in exchange for Fantastic Four. The deal's been in the works for some time, we're told, and further, the timing of Marvel's recent announcement of its movie slate leading up to the year 2020 and the X-Men TV series is no coincidence.
You may remember that there are three, so-far untitled films on Marvel's schedule in five years' time. We're told that one of those films is a Fantastic Four movie.
We don't have an independent source to back this claim up, so we'll have to treat it with a certain amount of caution for now. But given the reception Fantastic Four received earlier this summer, it makes sense that Fox would be receptive to the idea of a deal with Marvel, particularly if it meant wresting something as major and lucrative as the X-Men TV rights from Marvel's grasp.
More news on this as and when we get it

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/fantastic-four/37372/fantastic-four-back-at-marvel-movie-planned-for-2020

Jon Stark

Some coup if Marvel got the rights to Doom, Galactus and SS. Doom if done right can carry an entire phase as the primary antagonist.

McLoughlin

Jon Stark wrote: »

Some coup if Marvel got the rights to Doom, Galactus and SS. Doom if done right can carry an entire phase as the primary antagonist.

The Skrulls, Doom, Kang and Galactus all could be multi phase villians

Tefral

McLoughlin wrote: »

The Skrulls, Doom, Kang and Galactus all could be multi phase villians

Galactus being a massive world destroyer aside, is hard to poise as an out and out villain, he has helped out as much as he has been a hindrance.

Reports coming that it's all false

brianregan09

from where??

Lithium93_

brianregan09 wrote: »

from where??

Fox themselves, via Comicbook.com

http://comicbook.com/2015/10/15/official-fantastic-four-film-rights-remain-at-fox/

Agent Coulson

I wonder could any deal lead to a MEGA event crossover film in ten years or so where the MCU & FCU come together to save the day.

Penn

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Fox themselves, via Comicbook.com

http://comicbook.com/2015/10/15/official-fantastic-four-film-rights-remain-at-fox/

Ah f*ck. Would have liked it to be true.

brianregan09

What a sickener I knew it was too good to be true

Lithium93_

Well if Fox & Marvel are collaborating together on 2 shows, i would say all hope isn't lost, maybe they could thrash something out similar to Marvel & Sony with Spidey earlier this year.

Penn

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Well if Fox & Marvel are collaborating together on 2 shows, i would say all hope isn't lost, maybe they could thrash something out similar to Marvel & Sony with Spidey earlier this year.

Have to admit, I would much prefer Marvel got some rights to Wolverine (whether the shared Spidey or different Quicksilvers kind of deals) rather than the Fantastic Four.

Cows Go µ

I heard a pitch a while back for FF to be made into a family sitcom (some podcast or youtube video, I can't remember where). Instead of going gritty and dark like the recent movie, go super lighthearted. A simple family drama with lots of humour whose characters happen to have super powers. I'm probably explaining it terribly but when I heard it I thought that this would probably be the only way it could work. If they take themselves too seriously it all seems to go wrong.

Though not for ages, people need a break to get over what Fox did to the characters in the movies

Jon Stark

There's humour and lightness in FF for sure but a sitcom sounds like another horrible idea.

I mean going that route would basically neuter the potential of someone like Doom, with a TV effects budget that would blunt their powers to compound things.

They should just let it lie now, and hope Fox will play ball by the time the 4th/5th phase rolls around.

I personally could care less about the FF though, their rogues gallery (namely Doom and Galactus plus his heralds) is of more worth to Marvel than they themselves.

Sirsok

The fact that Tobias Funke's idea to have a Fantastic Four musical never came to proper light is a fallacy ....

Agent Coulson

Mark Ruffalo Bringing Hulk Into ‘Thor: Ragnarok’

Marvel Studios is near a deal with Mark Ruffalo to bring his Hulk character to Thor: Ragnarok, the third installment of the series that stars Chris Hemsworth as the hammer-wielding Norse god. The film will be directed by Taika Waititi, the New Zealand-born filmmaker whose credits include the indie Eagle Vs Shark and last year’s Sundance vampire mockumentary What We Do In The Shadows. Thor: The Dark WorldDisney has set a November 3, 2017, release date for Thor 3.

http://deadline.com/2015/10/mark-ruffalo-bringing-hulk-into-thor-ragnarok-1201584404/

OwaynOTT

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Mark Ruffalo Bringing Hulk Into ‘Thor: Ragnarok’



http://deadline.com/2015/10/mark-ruffalo-bringing-hulk-into-thor-ragnarok-1201584404/

Hulk in space? Hello Planet Hulk!

Cows Go µ

Jon Stark wrote: »

There's humour and lightness in FF for sure but a sitcom sounds like another horrible idea.

I mean going that route would basically neuter the potential of someone like Doom, with a TV effects budget that would blunt their powers to compound things.

They should just let it lie now, and hope Fox will play ball by the time the 4th/5th phase rolls around.

I personally could care less about the FF though, their rogues gallery (namely Doom and Galactus plus his heralds) is of more worth to Marvel than they themselves.

Yeah, I knew I explained it badly. I remember hearing for the first time and thinking it was terrible but as they kept talking I kind of came around to the idea. I've never cared much for Fantastic Four so maybe it's that I don't really care what they do to the characters so long as it's watchable.

Looking forward to seeing Hulk in Thor Ragnorak, I can't wait to see how they fit him in and how he will interact with Odin/Loki. I'm hoping it won't be Loki just pushing his buttons again, we've seen that before and we don't need to see it again. Maybe as an outsider, he will realise that there's something weird about Odin

MilesMorales1

So either we'll find our where Banner went after AOU in Civil war, or early on in Ragnarok.

Jon Stark

Cows Go µ wrote: »

Yeah, I knew I explained it badly. I remember hearing for the first time and thinking it was terrible but as they kept talking I kind of came around to the idea. I've never cared much for Fantastic Four so maybe it's that I don't really care what they do to the characters so long as it's watchable.

Looking forward to seeing Hulk in Thor Ragnorak, I can't wait to see how they fit him in and how he will interact with Odin/Loki. I'm hoping it won't be Loki just pushing his buttons again, we've seen that before and we don't need to see it again. Maybe as an outsider, he will realise that there's something weird about Odin

I'd say Hulk will be a wildcard that even Loki doesn't want. It will upset his ability to rule and that's when he'll admit what he has done to Odin
to Thor.

Agent Coulson

Rumor.

I'd be ok with this.

Marvel considering replacing Iron Fist with a Punisher TV Series:

Marvel can’t quite seem to figure out how to put Iron Fist into the equation and time is running out. They’re very pleased with how Jon Bernthal’s portrayal of Frank Castle for Season 2 of Daredevil and know that the fans have a great appreciation for the character. They also know that a Punisher series would be much cheaper and more marketable. They have a contract with Netflix and have to do something. It appears that for this phase of shows, time is running thin for Iron Fist.

http://peeltheorange.net/2015/10/23/marvel-considering-replacing-iron-fist-with-punisher-series/

Slydice

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Rumor.

I'd be ok with this.

Marvel considering replacing Iron Fist with a Punisher TV Series

The only disappoint I'd have is it not being the first live action Punisher actor I got to see.
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Especially after doing the Dirty Laundry Short (NSFW):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWpK0wsnitc