The Snow Lovers Appreciation Society Winter 2014/15 #MOD NOTE #1

Villain

They recorded 76 inches in one area of Buffalo!!

icesnowfrost

RobertKK wrote: »

Yes and we can be thankful we don't get that extreme.

However I live on a hill and I can see other hills, in winter I know if it is a snow shower that is coming as you see this wall type effect in a much lesser way.

Im not thankful

wexie

icesnowfrost wrote: »

Im not thankful

ah to be fair, for those of us who are REALLY well prepared it might be fun for a little bit. But, more likely than not if that were to happen in Ireland it'd cost lives and more than a little hardship. How many people do you know (aside from yourself perhaps) that would be able to cope with that for a few days? Or however long it would take for the roads to be cleared (likely more than a few days)?

icesnowfrost

wexie wrote: »

ah to be fair, for those of us who are REALLY well prepared it might be fun for a little bit. But, more likely than not if that were to happen in Ireland it'd cost lives and more than a little hardship. How many people do you know (aside from yourself perhaps) that would be able to cope with that for a few days? Or however long it would take for the roads to be cleared (likely more than a few days)?

I'd love to see it in ireland. However I would be worried about the elderly and people in general. If we had that kind of weather here, I'm just saying I would enjoy it while it lasted and the weather being the weather will do what it wants so plz don't hold me responsible if we do get 70 inches of snow lol.
Yours,
A snow and cold winter lover

wexie

icesnowfrost wrote: »

I'd love to see it in ireland. However I would be worried about the elderly and people in general. If we had that kind of weather here, I'm just saying I would enjoy it while it lasted and the weather being the weather will do what it wants so plz don't hold me responsible if we do get 70 inches of snow lol.
Yours,
A snow and cold winter lover

Oh of course I wouldn't and I too would enjoy it, just saying that it would have pretty severe consequences.

droidman123

icesnowfrost wrote: »

Im not thankful

I,m sure the families of the 4 people that died would be very thanful for not having that kind of extreme weather,as would the thousands of people suffering because of it.

kopfan77

Villain wrote: »

They recorded 76 inches in one area of Buffalo!!

Sods law....I had to be in Buffalo today for a 1 day seminar....flew through Boston and was surprised that I landed on time etc yesterday evening.
However you could clearly see about a mile or 2 south the wall of snow that was dumping down on the southern areas.

The seminar hasnt gone ahead today as the main speakers couldnt get in from Chicago and numerous locals couldnt get to where we are in Amherst/Wheatfield (north of the city)

but as I sit here typing the lake effect has shifted northwards and we have seen 5 inches drop on us in the last 45mins.....ive never experienced anything like it

Guys who are from the lancaster area and should have been here today reckon it will be the weekend before they can leave their houses due to 6ft of snow.....6 freaking feet, in 24hrs.....its unprecendented even for here!

syklops

icesnowfrost wrote: »

I'd love to see it in ireland. However I would be worried about the elderly and people in general. If we had that kind of weather here, I'm just saying I would enjoy it while it lasted and the weather being the weather will do what it wants so plz don't hold me responsible if we do get 70 inches of snow lol.
Yours,
A snow and cold winter lover

I'd say a lot of celtic tiger hovels homes would not survive that kind of weather or prove to be wholly inadequate.

Calibos

droidman123 wrote: »

I,m sure the families of the 4 people that died would be very thanful for not having that kind of extreme weather,as would the thousands of people suffering because of it.

Apparently the 4 deaths were heart attacks from the exertion of shovelling snow and pushing stuck cars. ie. underlying conditions that would have been triggered randomly by random exertions over the course of the next few months and been lost in the statistical noise. Happened to all be triggered in the same couple of days by a weather event.

davidsr20

Back to Ireland is there anything better looking in the models or is it still too early? U won't feel the end of November coming and it's still mild.
Are we looking at an other last years winter or is there hope!
Did mt not say mid November was to be cold?

Thanks in advance.

Nabber

Ireland will never get 7 inches of snow.. We could on the other hand get 17.8cm

downwesht

I doubt if we get any snow this winter.The water temperature is still high and we are not getting any sub zero temperatures to drag it down.Unless we get it late ie February I can't see it happening.....






famous last words;)

Red Pepper

downwesht wrote: »

I doubt if we get any snow this winter.The water temperature is still high and we are not getting any sub zero temperatures to drag it down.Unless we get it late ie February I can't see it happening.....

famous last words;)

I am reporting this post for anti-ramping.

Its Only Ray Parlour

downwesht wrote: »

I doubt if we get any snow this winter.The water temperature is still high and we are not getting any sub zero temperatures to drag it down.Unless we get it late ie February I can't see it happening.....






famous last words;)

Warm seas doesn't prevent the north of Japan from getting plastered with snow every year. Cold seas aren't very good for snow because there's very little evaporation.

The reason why we were plastered with snow 2010 is because of very cold air passing over the warm Irish sea. It's like lake-effect snow, except it involves the sea.

United road

davidsr20 wrote: »

Back to Ireland
Did mt not say mid November was to be cold?

Thanks in advance.

Well!! Anyone care to answer this?

gerrybhoy

United road wrote: »

Well!! Anyone care to answer this?

No one has the foggiest

wexie

United road wrote: »

Well!! Anyone care to answer this?

It's cause he forecasts the weather, he doesn't create it

Nabber

Warm water can be advantageous, when you have cold air flowing over short distance of warm water youb can build up some nice streamers.
2010 for example.

derekon

davidsr20 wrote: »

Back to Ireland is there anything better looking in the models or is it still too early? U won't feel the end of November coming and it's still mild.
Are we looking at an other last years winter or is there hope!
Did mt not say mid November was to be cold?

Thanks in advance.

Just looked at the ECMWF run this evening and if anything, it would appear that the Atlantic looks set to become stronger over the coming week to 10 days :mad: Also, just checked the UK Met Office update for the coming 4 weeks up to Christmas - look away if you are a cold or snow lover. It does not make for good reading with above average temperatures and a mobile westerly regime feeding in drizzle and muck (and low teen temperatures).

And by the way, the UK Met Office saw the cold signal for December 2010 a few weeks out.

D


UK Outlook for Monday 24 Nov 2014 to Wednesday 3 Dec 2014:

During Monday high pressure will probably become centred over England bringing sunny spells, but also an increased risk of fog and frost. A band of rain will probably move towards the northwest with winds increasing here. On Tuesday, though, high pressure gradually declines, and unsettled weather is likely to return over western parts with spells of rain, perhaps with local gales over northwestern parts. Eastern parts are most likely to see the best of any drier and brighter weather, with the risk of frost continuing here. From Thursday onwards, conditions probably becoming unsettled and windier across the UK, with outbreaks of rain, and clearer, showery interludes. Temperatures will mostly be around or just below normal for the time of year, with a chance of frost and fog overnight at first.
UK Outlook for Thursday 4 Dec 2014 to Thursday 18 Dec 2014:

The most likely scenario is for a continuation of a mobile westerly flow bringing unsettled and windy weather, especially in western parts of the UK, with eastern parts seeing the best of any dry weather. Temperatures are generally expected to be around or a little above average for the time of year. There is a chance of some overnight and morning mist or fog in places, and some patchy frost too - this will be more likely across northern areas where there is also a chance of some snow on higher ground.
Issued at: 1600 on Wed 19 Nov 2014

Iancar29

Nabber wrote: »

Warm water can be advantageous, when you have cold air flowing over short distance of warm water youb can build up some nice streamers.
2010 for example.

Yup ... and in buffalo with a 20c SST to 850hp temp difference you get this!

Lirange

MikeSoys wrote: »

so was the usa getting the same weather issues like now in 2010?...who is saying there will be snow this year?

They had some strong blizzards hit NYC and Chicago that winter:

http://youtu.be/tIr8Nl22eoE

http://youtu.be/et0axOoiGs8

But apparently temperature wise that winter was fairly average overall. I think the Midwest and Eastern North America receive larger annual snowfalls in average to above average temperature years because there is more moisture available to fuel blizzards and larger dumps.

bb1234567

DominoDub wrote: »

Imagine you open your front door in the morning to this :eek: ( Taken from Reddit)

I think I would pass out from the excitement

bb1234567

wexie wrote: »

ah to be fair, for those of us who are REALLY well prepared it might be fun for a little bit. But, more likely than not if that were to happen in Ireland it'd cost lives and more than a little hardship. How many people do you know (aside from yourself perhaps) that would be able to cope with that for a few days? Or however long it would take for the roads to be cleared (likely more than a few days)?

Not to mention the awful flooding that would probably happen afterwards and affect literally thousands of people

Smidge

I'm not sure I would like to see the "buffalo" type snow here(and this is as a snow lover). I remember 1982 and 1986 here and it was tough even at those levels. Bloody baltic is the term for those winters, I think

Clonmel1000

What the UK met office are forecasting is typical winter weather in the UK and Ireland. Why anyone is surprised at this is a bit of a mystery to me. Just because someone on an. internet site 'feels it in their bones' or because its reported in a joke of a newspaper like the mail doesn't mean its going to bring snow armageddon to a country that rarely experiences any type of major snow event. Statistically if we are going to get snow it will be in Jan/Gen anyway so I wouldn't be giving up hope just yet.

Graces7

RobertKK wrote: »

Yes and we can be thankful we don't get that extreme.

However I live on a hill and I can see other hills, in winter I know if it is a snow shower that is coming as you see this wall type effect in a much lesser way.

We get the same effect up here, Robert. Visible weather coming in off the mountains...utterly lovely and dramatic and time to get in from the garden in time.

Graces7

wexie wrote: »

ah to be fair, for those of us who are REALLY well prepared it might be fun for a little bit. But, more likely than not if that were to happen in Ireland it'd cost lives and more than a little hardship. How many people do you know (aside from yourself perhaps) that would be able to cope with that for a few days? Or however long it would take for the roads to be cleared (likely more than a few days)?

It would be wonderful if all those who truly wish for heavy now would get out and dig folk out and take out supplies but we rarely hear of this. They would enjoy that I think as that too is dramatic! Anyone reaching me in thick snow would be a hero!

ardmacha

Smidge wrote: »

I'm not sure I would like to see the "buffalo" type snow here(and this is as a snow lover). I remember 1982 and 1986 here and it was tough even at those levels. Bloody baltic is the term for those winters, I think

No problem. You just dig out from your drive to the street. Of course the street may not be in great shape!

maquiladora

Buffalo forecast to get another 30 inches of snow today on top of the massive dumping they already got.

CerebralCortex

Graces7 wrote: »

It would be wonderful if all those who truly wish for heavy now would get out and dig folk out and take out supplies but we rarely hear of this. They would enjoy that I think as that too is dramatic! Anyone reaching me in thick snow would be a hero!

You do realise people wanting something, like the weather being a certain way, has no bearing on whether they get it or not?

Cantona's Collars

Nabber

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

. Statistically if we are going to get snow it will be in Jan/Gen anyway so I wouldn't be giving up hope just yet.

This here folks is a true ramper. Ye have alot to learn.
We now have the month of Genuary thrown in to increase our chances of snow. Bring it on mote-toe folk-coors

Red Pepper

Snow on Tuesday...

http://www.mountain-forecast.com/peaks/Galtymore/forecasts/917

Thargor

Some big albums of snow pics from the Buffalo Reddit:

http://imgur.com/a/YKedF

http://imgur.com/a/Ye1z2

Stark

wexie wrote: »

ah to be fair, for those of us who are REALLY well prepared it might be fun for a little bit. But, more likely than not if that were to happen in Ireland it'd cost lives and more than a little hardship. How many people do you know (aside from yourself perhaps) that would be able to cope with that for a few days? Or however long it would take for the roads to be cleared (likely more than a few days)?

You see more deaths during a heatwave but no-one's made to feel guilty for enjoying hot weather.

MonkieSocks

Buffalo Live Web Cam


http://gobefore.me/cams/panos_on_elmwood/

ardmacha

it is giving 14C for Buffalo early next week, it is going to be very very messy. However, the snow will not accumulate over the winter as it will later.

Graces7

CerebralCortex wrote: »

You do realise people wanting something, like the weather being a certain way, has no bearing on whether they get it or not?

Which is as well!

Graces7

Stark wrote: »

You see more deaths during a heatwave but no-one's made to feel guilty for enjoying hot weather.

No one is mentioning guilt so what is this about? Simply talking reality and common sense... If you enjoy it fine but weather is not isolated from life and it affects many in many ways. Any idea of guilt is in your mind.. interesting.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Graces7 wrote: »

It would be wonderful if all those who truly wish for heavy now would get out and dig folk out and take out supplies but we rarely hear of this. They would enjoy that I think as that too is dramatic! Anyone reaching me in thick snow would be a hero!

I agree with you. Those that want snow don't obviously live in remote rural areas where snow lies on hills for days, leaving homes isolated. It's fine for us as we stock up on food and fuel in winter and can stay at home if necessary but neighbours have to get to work. A single day of snow can leave our roads extremely dangerous around here for a week.

wexie

Markus Thoughtless Brow wrote: »

I agree with you. Those that want snow don't obviously live in remote rural areas where snow lies on hills for days, leaving homes isolated.

Meh, don't know if you'd call it remote but I'm about 4 miles from the nearest road that's likely to be gritted or plowed, most of those 4 miles up or downhill.

Personally I think if you want to live in such a location and need to be able to get around it's up to yourself to make sure you've a vehicle that will allow you to safely. I remember talking to a colleague giving out that the roads were so bad in 2010 and how disgraceful it was. But he drives a rwd car and lives past Roundwood.

If you want to live there it's either one or the other, make sure you can get out or make sure you can stay in. Don't do nothing and then give out about the council/government/NRA or whoever that they don't plow ALL the roads.

icesnowfrost

I thought this was a dedicated thread for people who like snow and cold no matter how deep it is or how cold.

If so can we please stay on topic ???

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

wexie wrote: »

Meh, don't know if you'd call it remote but I'm about 4 miles from the nearest road that's likely to be gritted or plowed, most of those 4 miles up or downhill.

Personally I think if you want to live in such a location and need to be able to get around it's up to yourself to make sure you've a vehicle that will allow you to safely. I remember talking to a colleague giving out that the roads were so bad in 2010 and how disgraceful it was. But he drives a rwd car and lives past Roundwood.

If you want to live there it's either one or the other, make sure you can get out or make sure you can stay in. Don't do nothing and then give out about the council/government/NRA or whoever that they don't plow ALL the roads.

Buy a car suited to perhaps snow conditions once every couple of years?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

icesnowfrost wrote: »

I thought this was a dedicated thread for people who like snow and cold no matter how deep it is or how cold.

If so can we please stay on topic ???

Where in the OP does it state that?

Oh and 11 days left in November with no forecast for snow ahead. So OP was, thankfully, incorrect.

Sparks

Markus Thoughtless Brow wrote: »

Buy a car suited to perhaps snow conditions once every couple of years?

Naw, just get winter tyres and change onto them for the winter months. Have a set of chains in case it gets really 2010-level awful. But you really do have to be out in the countryside before you have to start thinking like that. If you're living inside the M50, you just don't need a range rover.

Doesn't seem to stop people who wouldn't know a slip diff from a lower range buying them and getting stuck in ditches during the first frost of winter, mind you...

gaius c

So is it snowing yet?

wexie

Markus Thoughtless Brow wrote: »

Buy a car suited to perhaps snow conditions once every couple of years?

Not if you live in Roundwood.

But like Sparks said, decent tires and some preparedness will go a long way.
A set of steelies and some decent tires probably cost less than replacing a bumper and some bodywork.

Lumi

icesnowfrost wrote: »

I thought this was a dedicated thread for people who like snow and cold no matter how deep it is or how cold.

If so can we please stay on topic ???

This is the dedicated Snow Lovers thread icesnowfrost Snow, Why do you love it ?

Mod Note

Can we steer this one back on to Weather & Will it/Won't it Snow this Winter. This isn't Commuting & Transport

Cheers

Ark rose glenn

It's not a tyre topic its about snow and weather so When is it gonna snow.....is the cold stuff on it's way to Ireland? Will we have a white Xmas or what... Any one out there with decent info on the winter this year

HighLine

Ark rose glenn wrote: »

Any one out there with decent info on the winter this year

Try Mystic Meg.