Better Call Saul ***Spoilers***

noodler

Tarzana2 wrote: »

What makes you think that's why I didn't think the first three episodes weren't that great? Episode four was the first episode I really enjoyed, and that had no double homicides.

I loved BB from the start, and many people considered the first season as slow.

I didn't mean to insinuate that.

Although, more generally, not every episode can be a Mike origin story with double murders so I wonder if people who thought it was "by far" the best epsiode so far will struggle to enjoy the rest of the series by comparison.

Caovyn Lineah

noodler wrote: »

Yeah, wasn't going to read anything into it though!

It wouldn't have been there if Vince Gilligan didn't want it spotted though he's an awful man.

Caovyn Lineah

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Nah. BCS only got going in episode four so it's still lagging behind a bit and has yet to prove it can keep that momentum going.

I have to be honest, BCS opening few episodes have certainly been better than the opening episodes of BrBa. I'm hooked already but I'm not sure if it would be the same if it was a standalone show rather than a spin off.

I won't be comparing them because there is no need, we should all just appreciate how fantastic both shows are/were.

Tarzana2

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

I have to be honest, BCS opening few episodes have certainly been better than the opening episodes of BrBa.

For me, it's the other way round, BB five episodes in was far more consistently compelling for me.

As for lead guys, Odenkirk is pretty good but nothing on Bryan Cranston, acting-wise.

I'm also not yet convinced it would have worked as a standalone. We'll see.

Tony EH

Cork boy 55 wrote: »

I can never understand how non-american actors get cast so often in American every show seems to be full of them, Is there a shortage of actress among-est the 300 million people in the Continental North America

Cheaper.

FloatingVoter

BB's opening shots are a lesson to every writer that the first few lines are the most important. Let us remember how Walt was introduced to the world. After this you were hanging around however long to find out how the schoolteacher wound up in a gas mask and underpants with cops in hot pursuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-G8weg2Ndg

BCS doesn't have that advantage. Bit like there can never be another Beatles. But it is trying its best.

TwoShedsJackson

Best episode so far, really good stuff.

gaz wac

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Did anybody else spot the fly on the black cops hand just before they got up and Jimmy spilled the coffee?

good spot...that fly was the sister of the fly that Walter was trying to kill in Breaking Bad...that Jess ended up killing....heartless bast&rd ;-)

jcsoulinger

Custardpi wrote: »

Yeah, & wrong admittedly. But no more implausible than yer man not noticing within a minute or so that his notebook had been lifted.

Its allot more implausible tho, how much coffee do ya reckon would have to be spilled on a note book before the info it held could not be retrieved. Its a cup of coffee not liquid hot magma, :-)

batistuta9

i really really really really really really really hope there's an episode like that on Gus.

FloatingVoter

batistuta9 wrote: »

i really really really really really really really hope there's an episode like that on Gus.

The prospect of Gus appearing soon has become less likely with that episode. Mike is new in town. Saul is a chancer willing to take risks. Neither would be anywhere near the interest of Gus at this point. If anything he'd view one as an attention seeker and the other as just another hired gun on a very long list.

jcsoulinger

batistuta9 wrote: »

i really really really really really really really hope there's an episode like that on Gus.

We kinda already got some of his backround in bb, But ya an episode with just Gus would be really good.

xxyyzz

Tarzana2 wrote: »

For me, it's the other way round, BB five episodes in was far more consistently compelling for me.

As for lead guys, Odenkirk is pretty good but nothing on Bryan Cranston, acting-wise.

I'm also not yet convinced it would have worked as a standalone. We'll see.

Saul is a more likeable character than Walter imho, easier to row in behind. One problem I had with breaking bad was that neither of the leads were likeable. Jessie was too weak willed and Walter was.... well Walter. In fact Mike was the only one who came out of it well.

Caovyn Lineah

FloatingVoter wrote: »

The prospect of Gus appearing soon has become less likely with that episode. Mike is new in town. Saul is a chancer willing to take risks. Neither would be anywhere near the interest of Gus at this point. If anything he'd view one as an attention seeker and the other as just another hired gun on a very long list.

Maybe the vet knows Gus or is a business acquaintance.

FloatingVoter

Gus is so far off the street that he won't make it in this season. The vet is certainly a connection in the right direction.
Mike not taking the heavy meds and saying "I'm a dispirin man" when offered Vicodin is a notch in his favour. Scoring a vet on day one in town and not looking for work is also a point in his favour.
All I'm saying is with season two already commissioned and I'm sure they're typing season three up as we speak there's no need to play the ace yet.

spiralism

batistuta9 wrote: »

i really really really really really really really hope there's an episode like that on Gus.

Next season, maybe in s3 if they go that far.

batistuta9

yeah i wasn't expecting gus this season anyway, though you'd think he'll feature sometime with mike. saying that i rather most of the BB faces to stick cameos & let BCS be it's own show

a bit of gus' past was revealed but the

"i know who you are" line by the cartel boss

bugs me a bit :pac: that's why i want to see it.

i'm going from memory here but

after that meeting with the cartel, they wanted nothing to do with gus or meth. so in the time between that & BB, gus has established himself as serious player in the US, he needed help to do that & a good enforcer is a must. perhaps mike was with gus on the way back up to the cartels line of sight.

batistuta9

xxyyzz wrote: »

Saul is a more likeable character than Walter imho, easier to row in behind. One problem I had with breaking bad was that neither of the leads were likeable. Jessie was too weak willed and Walter was.... well Walter. In fact Mike was the only one who came out of it well.

FloatingVoter

^ they're not rocks, they're minerals.

-=al=-

Jesus Chist, Marie.

Apparently people keep throwing pizzas on the roof of Walt's house in NM, heh...

Magnate

FloatingVoter wrote: »

The prospect of Gus appearing soon has become less likely with that episode. Mike is new in town. Saul is a chancer willing to take risks. Neither would be anywhere near the interest of Gus at this point. If anything he'd view one as an attention seeker and the other as just another hired gun on a very long list.

Gus might be coming sooner than you think!

FloatingVoter

^ Assuming Giancarlo isn't drunk or stoned out of his tap dancing feet, should mean a season 2 appearance. I'd imagine they're shooting that now or maybe booking for season 3.
Go the man, half a head. Though I would never say that to the gentleman's ehhhm.....face.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Brilliant last episode, it's great seeing more depth to Mike and why he's so dead inside.

Just like breaking bad it seems to be the kind of show that gets better and better as it goes along.

storker

the_monkey wrote: »

I hope they sort it out soon, the whole Chuck thing I find tedious.

Has anyone noticed the similarity between Chuck's situation/condition and "The Ballad of the Flexible Bullet" by Stephen King?

Or maybe it's been flagged already, in which case, please disregard.

the_monkey

Fantastic episode, way better then Saul/Chuck episodes .. should be called The Mike Show ..

Nash Bridges

Best episode so far I think. Real contrast between slapstick Jimmy dressed as Matlock to cold blooded cop killer Mike. Was almost like a different tv show altogether compared to the previous episodes.

Really looking forward to next week now.

Zascar

Really enjoyed that, but its about time some interesting stuff happened. I really thought by now all hell would be breaking loose, other episodes were pretty dam slow, still good, but I was expecting more madness by now

Caovyn Lineah

Zascar wrote: »

Really enjoyed that, but its about time some interesting stuff happened. I really thought by now all hell would be breaking loose, other episodes were pretty dam slow, still good, but I was expecting more madness by now

Looking back in hindsight, nothing spectacular happened in the first season of BrBa either.

spiralism

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Looking back in hindsight, nothing spectacular happened in the first season of BrBa either.

Not until the end of it anyways. Say by ep9 here **** will really go down.

Cina

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Looking back in hindsight, nothing spectacular happened in the first season of BrBa either.

Um, by now Walt had already gotten cancer, killed two people, and blown up Tuco's hideout.

Breaking Bad's first season was not remotely as 'slow' as this has been so far.