Better Call Saul ***Spoilers***

Tipsy McSwagger

Looks like that $20 million case has gone tits up judging by Chuck's breakdown at the end. I expect him to revert back to the complete paranoid mess he was in the first episode, and the case been dropped or settled for 100k. Jimmy will then turn down that dark path along with Mike.

noodler

Another great episode.

FloatingVoter

I'm wondering if they'll do an Irish themed episode soon...maybe call it "Tayto".

thefinalstage

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Looks like that $20 million case has gone tits up judging by Chuck's breakdown at the end. I expect him to revert back to the complete paranoid mess he was in the first episode, and the case been dropped or settled for 100k. Jimmy will then turn down that dark path along with Mike.

I'd say Chuck is cured or realizing it's in his head. Chuck will then try and get himself back into his law firm. They will say he needs to bring a big case onto the books and the case will be brought so far and then taken from Jimmy by Hamlin, Hamlin & McGil. That or they will legally have the case cause chuck is still on the books. His brother will rationalize it by saying Jimmy could never complete a case as intricate and or complicated as this. This will break Jimmy. Realizing that he will always be looks down on and stepped on so he turns to his old ways, where he was the big fish and this leads to Saul Goodman.

xxyyzz

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Looks like that $20 million case has gone tits up judging by Chuck's breakdown at the end.

Was it a breakdown or did he realise that he really has nothing wrong with him? I couldn't tell.

FloatingVoter

xxyyzz wrote: »

Was it a breakdown or did he realise that he really has nothing wrong with him? I couldn't tell.

Nobody could. We'll find out next week. Either way, Chuck is never mentioned in Breaking Bad so by then he's either dead or dead to Saul.

Custardpi

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Nobody could. We'll find out next week. Either way, Chuck is never mentioned in Breaking Bad so by then he's either dead or dead to Saul.

Wouldn't be too sure about that. You just know that somewhere out there a geek is painstakingly poring over every line of BB dialogue to find a sentence (or perhaps even a visual clue) that could maybe, obliquely, in a roundabout kind of way refer back to Chuck, thus feeding into a grand theory of the BB/BCS universe.

A Neurotic

thefinalstage wrote: »

I'd say Chuck is cured or realizing it's in his head. Chuck will then try and get himself back into his law firm. They will say he needs to bring a big case onto the books and the case will be brought so far and then taken from Jimmy by Hamlin, Hamlin & McGil. That or they will legally have the case cause chuck is still on the books. His brother will rationalize it by saying Jimmy could never complete a case as intricate and or complicated as this. This will break Jimmy. Realizing that he will always be looks down on and stepped on so he turns to his old ways, where he was the big fish and this leads to Saul Goodman.

I reckon Chuck using HH&M's printing facilities will have ramifications leading to them taking over the case somehow.

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Guy:Incognito

Was the 1933 code not just a happy coincidence that allowed Jimmy a quick quip likening him to Hitler rather than an in depth thought provoking link ?

xxyyzz

I suspect Chuck will return to HHM and take the case with him leaving Jimmy out in the cold.

folamh

Good to get more clarification RE Jimmy's history. So is it now clear that Jimmy's been exploiting Chuck for legal assistance? I think that something terrible and possibly tragic is going to happen with Chuck which will result in Jimmy changing his identity to Saul. It will be the awful regret that constantly looms over him throughout Breaking Bad and afterward.

johnpatrick81

Loved it. Can't wait to see what Mike's first dirty job is:pac:

ricero

folamh wrote: »

Good to get more clarification RE Jimmy's history. So is it now clear that Jimmy's been exploiting Chuck for legal assistance? I think that something terrible and possibly tragic is going to happen with Chuck which will result in Jimmy changing his identity to Saul. It will be the awful regret that constantly looms over him throughout Breaking Bad and afterward.

I don't necessarily see it as expolotation more that he knows that its good for Chuck's mental health to be busy and helping Jimmy out with his business.

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thefinalstage wrote: »

I'd say Chuck is cured or realizing it's in his head. Chuck will then try and get himself back into his law firm. They will say he needs to bring a big case onto the books and the case will be brought so far and then taken from Jimmy by Hamlin, Hamlin & McGil. That or they will legally have the case cause chuck is still on the books. His brother will rationalize it by saying Jimmy could never complete a case as intricate and or complicated as this. This will break Jimmy. Realizing that he will always be looks down on and stepped on so he turns to his old ways, where he was the big fish and this leads to Saul Goodman.

This wouldn't surprise me. Seems plausible.

Birneybau

ricero wrote: »

I don't necessarily see it as expolotation more that he knows that its good for Chuck's mental health to be busy and helping Jimmy out with his business.

Yeah, would have seen it as surreptitious encouragement myself.

nc19

Kirby wrote:

Mikes daughter in law is some manipulator............

she's from tipperary........just fyi

nc19

-=al=- wrote:

Can't help but thinking the latest stuff is going to go tits up and minute though.

Well he certainly didn't have 20mil in breaking bad so I think it safe to assume the case gets taken from him...

jcsoulinger

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Nobody could. We'll find out next week. Either way, Chuck is never mentioned in Breaking Bad so by then he's either dead or dead to Saul.

To me his reaction was very different from the previous times he's been out side, It looked like he had a major breakthrough with his condition.

jcsoulinger

thefinalstage wrote: »

I'd say Chuck is cured or realizing it's in his head. Chuck will then try and get himself back into his law firm. They will say he needs to bring a big case onto the books and the case will be brought so far and then taken from Jimmy by Hamlin, Hamlin & McGil. That or they will legally have the case cause chuck is still on the books. His brother will rationalize it by saying Jimmy could never complete a case as intricate and or complicated as this. This will break Jimmy. Realizing that he will always be looks down on and stepped on so he turns to his old ways, where he was the big fish and this leads to Saul Goodman.

I reckon HHM will get wind of the case and demand that Chuck hand it over as per his contract, the printing has already created a paper trail. Chuck will probably just go along with it as he's such a straight arrow he would fulfill the commitment he's made to HHM disregarding Jimmy's feelings altogether. This causes Jimmy to break bad and become Saul.

I really hope it goes another way or there is more to it as its way too obvious a conclusion.

jcsoulinger

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Loved it. Can't wait to see what Mike's first dirty job is:pac:

That sounds wrong on so many levels :-)

FloatingVoter

nc19 wrote: »

Well he certainly didn't have 20mil in breaking bad so I think it safe to assume the case gets taken from him...

It's a class action. All going well, the pair would be splitting a percentage. He'd still be looking at a million dollar payday at least. And in BB, he was a "Criminal Attorney" - playing the cheap ambulance chaser covered the bigger serious clients like Walt, Jesse, Mike, Gus et al.
Gus would have used a flashy corporate law firm for Los Pollos. His shady minions would go under the table to Saul.

Callanutd

HHM are totally taking the case over. You can see it a mile away. As for Jimmy changing his name to Saul didnt he say in BB that he did it as people think Jews are better lawyers? Pretty sure he said something along those lines.

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gormdubhgorm

Callanutd wrote: »

HHM are totally taking the case over. You can see it a mile away. As for Jimmy changing his name to Saul didnt he say in BB that he did it as people think Jews are better lawyers? Pretty sure he said something along those lines.

Yeah I remember something like that alright.

xxyyzz

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Yeah I remember something like that alright.

I think he mentioned Saul Goodman in an earlier episode - S'all Good man when he was hustling some guy in a flashback.

jcsoulinger

Callanutd wrote: »

HHM are totally taking the case over. You can see it a mile away. As for Jimmy changing his name to Saul didnt he say in BB that he did it as people think Jews are better lawyers? Pretty sure he said something along those lines.

Ya he did say in bb that the name was to make people think he was Jewish, I guess its just a coincidence that he used it originally as a fun play on words to replace his real name, when he was a con man.

When we say becoming Saul here tho we generally mean a change of persona from the good Jimmy to the dodgy Saul.

folamh

jcsoulinger wrote: »

Ya he did say in bb that the name was to make people think he was Jewish, I guess its just a coincidence that he used it originally as a fun play on words to replace his real name, when he was a con man.

When we say becoming Saul here tho we generally mean a change of persona from the good Jimmy to the dodgy Saul.

Jimmy always did dodgy things. He was scamming people for a long time before he became Saul Goodman. Remember the skaters? The watch? Being a multi-dimensional person, he is simultaneously dodgy and a good person.

folamh

ricero wrote: »

I don't necessarily see it as expolotation more that he knows that its good for Chuck's mental health to be busy and helping Jimmy out with his business.

Yeah, but when the rival lawyer (Rico?) is enquiring about Chuck, it is implied that Jimmy is doing something illegal by enabling this set-up.

rob316

Just caught up to episode 7 last night. Excellent stuff, the mike episode was brilliant, great to know how he ended up in ABQ.

Looking forward to watching 8 later.

nc19

jcsoulinger wrote:

When we say becoming Saul here tho we generally mean a change of persona from the good Jimmy to the dodgy Saul.

I don't believe Saul (c.BB) was inherently bad I just think he was doing a job he was good at....