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Better Call Saul ***Spoilers***

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    #572
    jcsoulinger
    Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭jcsoulinger


    folamh wrote: »
    Jimmy always did dodgy things. He was scamming people for a long time before he became Saul Goodman. Remember the skaters? The watch? Being a multi-dimensional person, he is simultaneously dodgy and a good person.

    The Jimmy we see now is completely clean, he even gave his share of the kettleman money back, something will happen which will make him revert to his old ways which will lead him to becoming the Saul we see in bb.


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    #573
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users Posts: 18,774 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    folamh wrote: »
    Yeah, but when the rival lawyer (Rico?) is enquiring about Chuck, it is implied that Jimmy is doing something illegal by enabling this set-up.

    Rico was not the name of the lawyer it refers to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act
    Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #574
    jcsoulinger
    Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭jcsoulinger


    nc19 wrote: »
    I don't believe Saul (c.BB) was inherently bad I just think he was doing a job he was good at....

    Ya he's not inherently bad just very corrupt


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    #575
    Sirsok
    Registered Users Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Sirsok


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    Rico was not the name of the lawyer it refers to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act
    Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act.

    I know this from my Sons of Anarchy days! Poor juice!


    Didn't jimmy say in a previous episode that he was going to commit Chuck to a mental institution to try get at Hamill? Was thinking that might play into it....


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    #576
    Custardpi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    Rico was not the name of the lawyer it refers to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act
    Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act.

    "Rico" could also refer to what Chuck & Jimmy will be if they manage to pull the case off. We obviously know they don't or that Jimmy contrives to lose his share & end up in that crummy office in BB. Will be interesting to see how it all goes awry for them.


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    #577
    jcsoulinger
    Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭jcsoulinger


    Sirsok wrote: »
    I know this from my Sons of Anarchy days! Poor juice!


    Didn't jimmy say in a previous episode that he was going to commit Chuck to a mental institution to try get at Hamill? Was thinking that might play into it....

    Ya but then he confessed to Kim that it was an empty threat to rattle Hamill.


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    #578
    FloatingVoter
    Registered Users Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    The phrase "reading too deeply" comes too mind.
    Saul Goodman was never a bad guy. He did what lawyers do, suggest options. Given his broad range of clients, their options were morally wider than many others. The provision of phone numbers to artistic passport makers, creative bankers in the Caribbean, washing machine vendors, toenail parlours was merely a suggestion. The client chooses.


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    #579
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    folamh wrote: »
    Yeah, but when the rival lawyer (Rico?) is enquiring about Chuck, it is implied that Jimmy is doing something illegal by enabling this set-up.

    RICO is this, afaik:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act
    Sirsok wrote: »
    I know this from my Sons of Anarchy days! Poor juice!

    Sopranos for me! :)


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    #580
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    FloatingVoter wrote: »
    The phrase "reading too deeply" comes too mind.
    Saul Goodman was never a bad guy. He did what lawyers do, suggest options.

    Ah, I don't know about that, he sets up a scam with Dumb and Dumber in episode one for his own gain, to win the Kettlemans as clients. This was more than just suggesting things, he was involved in this for his own gain.


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    #581
    Donegal Dan
    Site Banned Posts: 433 ✭✭Donegal Dan


    Did Chuck collapse at the end or what?


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    #582
    FloatingVoter
    Registered Users Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    Ah, I don't know about that, he sets up a scam with Dumb and Dumber in episode one for his own gain, to win the Kettlemans as clients. This was more than just suggesting things, he was involved in this for his own gain.

    He had evolved from footpath scams by the time of BB. Greater minds with greater crimes were paying percentages.


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    #583
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    FloatingVoter wrote: »
    He had evolved from footpath scams by the time of BB. Greater minds with greater crimes were paying percentages.

    But scams they were. He displayed an inclination towards corruptness right from the very beginning of BCS.


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    #584
    johnpatrick81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭johnpatrick81


    Is Saul a U2 fan?:cool: "I'm Pro-Bono, I'm very Bono, so rockstar!":pac:


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    #585
    FloatingVoter
    Registered Users Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    johnpatrick81 wrote: »
    Is Saul a U2 fan?:cool: "I'm Pro-Bono, I'm very Bono, so rockstar!":pac:

    He said he was very "pro-bono", Chuck was the "rock star". ....it may have been a sideways dig. In 2001, yup:rolleyes:...Bono was annoying then too.


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    #586
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    Loved "Look at the message, not the medium". Love all the references in this show. BB wasn't really into references, it was quite singular. So in that way, they differ.


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    #587
    Dempsey
    Registered Users Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Hopefully Chuck realizes that it was all in his head. Fairly annoying if he goes back into a rut after this
    The phrase "reading too deeply" comes too mind.
    Saul Goodman was never a bad guy. He did what lawyers do, suggest options. Given his broad range of clients, their options were morally wider than many others. The provision of phone numbers to artistic passport makers, creative bankers in the Caribbean, washing machine vendors, toenail parlours was merely a suggestion. The client chooses.

    He facilitated serious criminal activity under the guise of client privilege which is illegal. He was a co-conspirator to many crimes perpetrated by his clients. He was a morally bankrupt person at the bare minimum. A smart crook would be more apt.


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    #588
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Donegal Dan wrote: »
    Did Chuck collapse at the end or what?
    Did you see him collapse?


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    #589
    FloatingVoter
    Registered Users Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Dempsey wrote: »
    He was a morally bankrupt person at the bare minimum. A smart crook would be more apt.

    Indeed. While never telling the Irish nation to "tighten their belts" he is working on the haircut.


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    #590
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Did you see him collapse?

    You're a ray of sunshine on this thread.


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    #591
    noodler
    Registered Users Posts: 26,394 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    Did you see him collapse?

    I saw him samba!


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    #592
    Birneybau
    Registered Users Posts: 10,317 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Always worth a read.

    http://www.avclub.com/tv/better-call-saul/


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    #593
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    You're a ray of sunshine on this thread.

    I have an aversion to stupid questions.


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    #594
    Dolbert
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭Dolbert


    The sound was Chuck dropping the box, I thought he had collapsed for a second too... must be stupid


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    #595
    MagicMarker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Dolbert wrote: »
    The sound was Chuck dropping the box, I thought he had collapsed for a second too... must be stupid

    I knew the sound was him dropping the box, because I saw the box drop.

    Sight, my favorite sense.


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    #596
    johnpatrick81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭johnpatrick81


    :D

    I really like Chuck and find him very interesting. Definitely will get to see what snapped his mental breakdown at some point surely? Something horrendous that HHM did that pushed him over the edge perhaps.

    I thought for a minute the realization he was out in the "big bad world" might have caused an aneurism or something similar. We shall see.


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    #597
    spiralism
    Registered Users Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    HHM are 100% taking this over. They billed it to HHM's printer so they can claim it. He'll get a substantial finders fee that will be dwarfed by what the case makes Howard and Chuck.

    On reddit one user made the link that Howards code of 1933 is the year Hitler rose to power as Jimmy pointed out. Chuck's is 1868, the year that Japanese imperialism begain.

    Hamlin will use Jimmy's threats to commit Chuck against him to get Chuck to side with the firm and **** Jimmy over. With the money Jimmy gets, he buys a shopping plaza office and goes to court for a name change to signify him disowning Chuck and bins his moral compass for all the good it does him ....and Saul Goodman is born


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    #598
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    Birneybau wrote: »
    Always worth a read.

    http://www.avclub.com/tv/better-call-saul/

    I love the AV Club. Don't always agree with it, but always enjoy the writing.


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    #599
    Tarzana2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    MagicMarker wrote: »
    I have an aversion to stupid questions.

    All your posts are relentlessly negative. Nothing to do with stupid questions.


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    #600
    pwurple
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    Tarzana2 wrote: »
    All your posts are relentlessly negative. Nothing to do with stupid questions.

    Very nice feature of boards is the mute feature, when you put certain posters on your 'ignore' list. ;)


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    #601
    seligehgit
    Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Really funny how shocked Chuck was that Jimmy passed his bar exams...no ordinary university....University of America Samoa!:pac:


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