Better Call Saul ***Spoilers***

De Bhál

while I like the story-line regarding the lab build, it seems to me to be completely overboard. Would it have not made more economic sense to do the meth production out in a farm in the countryside well away from prying eyes.

Wouldn't make good tv I know, but I can't really see the advantages to this as so much could go wrong and so many people are involved.

Kim story-line petering out now - can see her being sent off to some other office in another town and that's the end of that.

Penn

De Bhál wrote: »

while I like the story-line regarding the lab build, it seems to me to be completely overboard. Would it have not made more economic sense to do the meth production out in a farm in the countryside well away from prying eyes.

Economic sense, yes. But it would have thrown up a bunch of issues regarding dispatch (which they could use the laundry trucks for), equipment (the ventilation in the underground lab was tied in with the laundry ventilation so it didn't seem unusual), people coming and going, security (security system for the laundry doubling as the external security for the lab).

Hank/Gomez were in or around the laundry a few times and still couldn't find any sign of the lab. If the lab was out in some farm somewhere, if Hank/Gomez had any suspicion about it it wouldn't have taken long for them to find it. Plus you're talking the huge energy demands for the lab (less noticeable when tied in with the laundry in the middle of a city rather than out in the countryside) and financial ties to the land (easy to own a laundry, less easy to justify a random bit of farmland as they already had chicken farms).

Gus is meticulous. He'd rather spend a lot of money and go to huge effort to create something near perfect than to risk it to save money by creating a lesser product. Hence why he also had no objection to Mike's suggestions about what to put in the living quarters for the guys who'll be doing the job. The lab under the laundry was overboard, but given its purpose and how much money he'd be making from it, overboard was better in order to eliminate as much risk as possible. A lab out in a farm in the countryside would never match the lab under the laundry.

Hector Savage

I am re watching BB in parallel here, Just watched series 5 ep 7 BrBa spoiler ..

Walt kills Mike - can't believe such a good character like Mike gets killed by Walt ...

Penn

Hector Savage wrote: »

I am re watching BB in parallel here, Just watched series 5 ep 7 BrBa spoiler ..

Walt kills Mike - can't believe such a good character like Mike gets killed by Walt ...

Like most characters, Mike underestimated Walt and the levels he'd go to, and Mike was rattled by losing all his money and having to go on the run. He unfortunately dropped his guard enough for Walt to get the drop on him. But yeah, it was a sad end for his character, given what we've learned he can do not just in Breaking Bad but also seeing him in BCS. Mad to think he started off in BB as just someone Saul called to clean up after Jane's overdose.

BandMember

Penn wrote: »

Hank/Gomez were in or around the laundry a few times and still couldn't find any sign of the lab. If the lab was out in some farm somewhere, if Hank/Gomez had any suspicion about it it wouldn't have taken long for them to find it.

What are ya on about? Sure Hank couldn't even find his own brother in law and he with him nearly every day..... :P

De Bhál

I loved Hank

Hector Savage

Thats what really disturbs me about series 5 of BB ... just how dark it gets.

Bigus

Penn wrote: »

Economic sense, yes. But it would have thrown up a bunch of issues regarding dispatch (which they could use the laundry trucks for), equipment (the ventilation in the underground lab was tied in with the laundry ventilation so it didn't seem unusual), people coming and going, security (security system for the laundry doubling as the external security for the lab).

Hank/Gomez were in or around the laundry a few times and still couldn't find any sign of the lab. If the lab was out in some farm somewhere, if Hank/Gomez had any suspicion about it it wouldn't have taken long for them to find it. Plus you're talking the huge energy demands for the lab (less noticeable when tied in with the laundry in the middle of a city rather than out in the countryside) and financial ties to the land (easy to own a laundry, less easy to justify a random bit of farmland as they already had chicken farms).

Gus is meticulous. He'd rather spend a lot of money and go to huge effort to create something near perfect than to risk it to save money by creating a lesser product. Hence why he also had no objection to Mike's suggestions about what to put in the living quarters for the guys who'll be doing the job. The lab under the laundry was overboard, but given its purpose and how much money he'd be making from it, overboard was better in order to eliminate as much risk as possible. A lab out in a farm in the countryside would never match the lab under the laundry.

Clever analysis, particularly around power consumption, emissions, transport and labour logistics,

plus

Who wants to rob a laundry ? as well as the cover of "hiding in plain sight" .

charolais0153

Bigus wrote: »

Clever analysis, particularly around power consumption, emissions, transport and labour logistics,

plus

Who wants to rob a laundry ? as well as the cover of "hiding in plain sight" .

Also alaundry could purchase. Chemicals in.bulk

Skullface McGubbin

I was watching, wondering if those 3 street rats were going to get their comeuppance or not. Satisfying stuff

jcsoulinger

Cloudio9 wrote: »

nullzero wrote: »

With 'splosions?

The whole thing is ridiculous....as if lawyers in their forties just jump day to day between a specialised area like financial services regulation to defending skobes in the criminal justice system.

The story is generally ridiculous, this is far from the most ridiculous thing that has gone on.

jcsoulinger

I'm pretty sure the reasoning behind putting a meth lab under a laundry were set out in BB, if not there obvious anyways.

artvanderlay

I am getting a bit bored with it all. The only character I really care about is Nacho, and he is given very little screen time. I loved Mike but even he is doing nothing now. Come on BCS, something exciting has to happen soon or I'm giving up.

seligehgit

De Bh108061242 wrote:

I loved Hank

My favourite character.

A true good guy.

seligehgit

artvanderlay wrote: »

I am getting a bit bored with it all. The only character I really care about is Nacho, and he is given very little screen time. I loved Mike but even he is doing nothing now. Come on BCS, something exciting has to happen soon or I'm giving up.

Never enjoyed it more,season 4 has been exceptional.

TomOnBoard

seligehgit wrote: »

My favourite character.

A true good guy.

And what he had to put up with from the Purple Shoplifter, the poor guy... Ended up playing with a box of rocks..

Pero_Bueno

The place the German builders are staying in, is that next to the chicken farm ?

TomOnBoard

Pero_Bueno wrote: »

The place the German builders are staying in, is that next to the chicken farm ?

Don't think so. It would need to be near the laundry. IIRC, the chicken farm was isolated..

Pero_Bueno

TomOnBoard wrote: »

Don't think so. It would need to be near the laundry. IIRC, the chicken farm was isolated..

Looks pretty isolated


I'd imagine it's best to keep them isolated and bus them in to work ...

ButtersSuki

seligehgit wrote: »

Never enjoyed it more,season 4 has been exceptional.

Fully agree. The writing and acting has been outstanding. Hard to see anyone beating Bob Odenkirk for awards season even this far out. Depending on how the last few episodes go, Rhea Seehorn likely to at least get nominated as well.

ads20101

I agree -

But I keep on thinking, do I like it more this season as the BB storylines are intertwining?

Tipsy McSwagger

Every minute of every episode is absolutely perfect. This is as high in quality as a TV show can get.

TerrorFirmer

I found it very hard at first to buy into a BB prequel when you already knew the fate of most of the bigger players for the most part, though it is exceptionally good and this season's been particularly good.

I wonder if they'll call a halt at S5, like Breaking Bad? All good things should end around then, nothing worse than something dragged out and the inevitable dip in quality that follows.

Also wonder as to how much we'll end up getting on the post-BB life we've only briefly seen thus far.

alroley

Loving this season. It's turned into one of my favourite shows of all time.

I feel like it could do with a longer season five like Breaking Bad had, and then it's over.

Boom_Bap

In the previous episode Jimmy talks about how back in the day he wouldn't have the young fellas attack him or he'd be aware of it before it happened.
New Jimmy does things differently now


Great episode again, setting up the place for the Germans and already identifying one guy to watch....there's going to be more to that I reckon.


I think that we've seen how Jimmy and Kim are going to split as well.

wylo

ads20101 wrote: »

I agree -

But I keep on thinking, do I like it more this season as the BB storylines are intertwining?

I’m the same, while I love the dialogue, drama and story progression that has less to with BB, I gotta admit , the closer it gets to BB and the violence/gang/meth stuff the more excited I get.

Can’t be helped. BB is the best TV series I’ve ever seen.

stronglikebull

TomOnBoard wrote: »

Don't think so. It would need to be near the laundry. IIRC, the chicken farm was isolated..

Mike said in the episode that the houses in the warehouse are far away from the operation, so it's nowhere near the laundry. They'd want them far away as they don't want the guys building the lab to have any idea where it might be. Same as the elaborate pickup method used to bring in the engineers in the last episode.

This episode was about the best in a while. There's little bits of good stuff in each episode, but most of it doesn't do much for me - especially the Mesa Verde/Kim stuff that doesn't seem to have any real bearing on whats happening. That is unless something huge is going to happen, and we just don't see it!

It's all interesting, but not what I'd call fantastic. If this were a standalone show, I'd have given up on it.

Kevwoody

stronglikebull wrote:

This episode was about the best in a while. There's little bits of good stuff in each episode, but most of it doesn't do much for me - especially the Mesa Verde/Kim stuff that doesn't seem to have any real bearing on whats happening. That is unless something huge is going to happen, and we just don't see it!

I wonder if Madrigal are using Mesa Verde to launder money or some other illegal venture, it would explain the rapid expansion plans of the bank.
Maybe Kim stumbles upon it?

Boom_Bap

Kevwoody wrote: »

I wonder if Madrigal are using Mesa Verde to launder money or some other illegal venture, it would explain the rapid expansion plans of the bank.
Maybe Kim stumbles upon it?

That's an interesting one!

gormdubhgorm

stronglikebull wrote: »

It's all interesting, but not what I'd call fantastic. If this were a standalone show, I'd have given up on it.

I think this is a good point I am 50/50 on that myself.
I like seeing the BB characters appear and the little references I try to look out for them.
If I didn't see BB bad would I enjoy it as much? I am not sure.
Then again if I had no idea about BB I would have no idea how the characters turn out.