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It throw one last vote for Jarrett. As I said earlier always think of Bret for being a standout World champ as opposed to his IC run. Hate Jarrett for anything he did north of the midcard but I have to say I loved J-E-Double F J-A-Double R E Double T. Was a bit naff but nothing you could call pure wrestlecrap. Enjoyed his attitude era run too.
So that's that. Hart books his place in the final. 9-4. Will give our second semi the rest of the day to play out. Will it be a Canadian affair or will it be the two guys that fought for the world title at RR 93.
2ND SEMI FINALChris Jericho
"So many Y2J incarnations, so many Title Reigns"
The "Y2J Problem" and Intercontinental Champion (1999–2000)
Jericho on SmackDown! with Mr. Hughes, his enforcer during his rivalry with Ken Shamrock.
Jericho alternated between WCW and a number of Japanese tours before he signed a contract with the World Wrestling Federation (WWF) on June 30.[24]
In the weeks before Jericho's debut, a clock labelled "countdown to the new millennium" appeared on WWF programming. On the home video, Break Down the Walls, Jericho states he was inspired to do this as his entrance when he saw a similar clock in a post office, and Vince McMahon gave him the green light to use it as his introduction to the WWF. The clock finally ran down on the August 9, 1999 episode of Raw, in Chicago, Illinois, while The Rock was in the ring cutting a promo on the Big Show. Jericho entered the arena and proclaimed "Raw is Jericho" and that he had "come to save the World Wrestling Federation", referring to himself as "Y2J" (a play on the Y2K bug). The Rock proceeded to verbally mock him for his interruption.[25] Later that month, Jericho made his in-ring debut on August 26, losing a match against Road Dogg by disqualification on the inaugural episode of SmackDown! after powerbombing Road Dogg through a table.[26]
Jericho's first long-term feud was with Chyna, for the Intercontinental Championship. After losing to Chyna at the Survivor Series,[27] Jericho won his first Intercontinental title at Armageddon.[28] This feud included a controversial decision during a rematch in which two separate referees declared each one of them the winner of a match for the title.[29] As a result, they became co-champions, until Jericho attained sole champion status at the Royal Rumble.[30] Jericho's subsequent alliance with Chyna, coupled with growing enthusiasm for his ring work and mic skills, effectively turned him into a face.
Feuding and teaming with Chris Benoit (2000–2001)
Jericho lost his title to the European Champion Kurt Angle at No Way Out.[31] On April 2, Jericho competed in a Triple Threat match against Chris Benoit and Angle at WrestleMania 2000 in a two-falls contest with both of Angle's titles at stake. Jericho won the European Championship by pinning Benoit, who in turn pinned Jericho to take the Intercontinental Championship.[32] This was the first of six pay-per-view matches between the pair within twelve months. Jericho lost the title the next day to Eddie Guerrero on Raw after Chyna turned heel to side with Guerrero. On the April 17 episode of Raw, Jericho upset Triple H in a WWF Championship match. Referee Earl Hebner made a fast count when Jericho pinned Triple H, causing Jericho to win the title.[33] Hebner later reversed the decision due to pressure from Triple H, and WWE does not recognize Jericho's reign as champion. On the May 4 episode of SmackDown!, Jericho defeated Benoit to become Intercontinental Champion for the third time,[34] but lost the title to Benoit four days later on Raw.[35] Meanwhile, Jericho's feud with Triple H climaxed at Fully Loaded, when they competed in a Last Man Standing match. Jericho lost the match to Triple H only by one second, despite the repeated assistance Triple H's wife, Stephanie, provided him in the match.[36]
At the 2001 Royal Rumble, Jericho defeated Chris Benoit in a Ladder match to win the Intercontinental Championship for the fourth time.[37] At WrestleMania X-Seven, he successfully defended his title in a match against William Regal,[38] only to lose it four days later to Triple H.
At Judgment Day, Jericho and Benoit won a Tag Team Turmoil match[39] and earned a shot at Stone Cold Steve Austin and Triple H for their WWF Tag Team Championship on Raw the next night. Benoit and Jericho won the match, in which Triple H legitimately tore his quadriceps, spending the rest of the year injured. Benoit and Jericho each became a WWF Tag Team Champion for the first time.[3] The team defended their title in the first Fatal Four-Way Tables, Ladders, and Chairs match where Benoit sustained a year-long injury doing a diving headbutt through a table. Though Benoit was carried out on a stretcher, he returned to the match to climb the ladder and retain the championship. The duo lost the title one month later to the Dudley Boyz on June 19, 2001.[40] That month at King of the Ring, both Benoit and Jericho were named challengers for Austin's WWF Championship in which Booker T interfered as the catalyst for The Invasion angle.
Jericho teamed up with Randy Orton, Chris Benoit, and Maven to take on Triple H, Batista, Edge, and Snitsky at Survivor Series. The match stipulated that each member of the winning team would be the General Manager of Raw over the next four weeks. Jericho's team won, and took turns as General Manager.[54] During Jericho's turn as General Manager, he stripped Triple H of his World Heavyweight Championship because a Triple Threat match for the title a week earlier ended in a draw. At New Year's Revolution, Jericho competed in the Elimination Chamber against Triple H, Chris Benoit, Batista, Randy Orton, and Edge for the vacated World Heavyweight Championship. Jericho began the match with Benoit but Batista ultimately eliminated Jericho.[55] At WrestleMania 21, Jericho participated in the first ever Money in the Bank ladder match. Jericho suggested the match concept, and he competed in the match against Benjamin, Benoit, Kane, Christian, and Edge. Jericho lost the match when Edge claimed the briefcase. At Backlash, Jericho challenging Shelton Benjamin for the Intercontinental Championship, but lost the match. On June 12, 2005, Jericho wrestled in his first match of the ECW One Night Stand pay-per-view event against his former rival, Lance Storm. Jericho used his old 'Lionheart' gimmick, instead of his more well known 'Y2J' gimmick. However, Jericho lost the match, after Jason and Justin Credible hit Jericho's head with a Singapore Cane, which allowed Storm to win the match.
On the April 13 episode of Raw, Jericho was drafted to the SmackDown brand as part of the 2009 WWE Draft.[87] Ricky Steamboat interrupted Jericho's Raw farewell address, which led to the two facing off at Backlash where Jericho came out victorious.[88] In his SmackDown return, Jericho participated in a fatal-four-way elimination match against Kane, Jeff Hardy, and Rey Mysterio. Mysterio executed a 619 on Jericho and then attempted to pin him with a seated senton. Jericho retaliated by throwing a chair at Mysterio and was disqualified. This sparked a feud between the two.[89] Mysterio pinned Jericho after a 619 at Judgment Day to retain the Intercontinental Championship.[90] Jericho defeated Mysterio in a No Holds Barred Match at Extreme Rules to win his ninth Intercontinental Championship, breaking his own record again.[91] At The Bash Jericho lost the Intercontinental title to Mysterio.
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Razor Ramon
“The Bad guy”
Intercontinental Champion (1993–1996)[edit]
On the October 4, 1993 edition of Monday Night Raw, a 20-man battle royal was held; the last two participants would face each other the next week for the vacant WWF Intercontinental Championship. Razor and Rick Martel were those final two.[31][32] The next week on Raw, Razor pinned Martel after a Razor's Edge to win the Intercontinental Championship.[33]
At Survivor Series, Razor teamed with Marty Jannetty, Randy Savage, and The 1–2–3 Kid to take on the team of Martel, I.R.S, Adam Bomb, and Diesel. Razor (the team captain) eliminated the opposing captain, IRS, after scoring a pin following a Razor's Edge. Razor was eliminated from the match via countout after IRS hit him in the head with a briefcase, but his team went on to win the match, beginning a feud between the two captains. This feud culminated at the 1994 Royal Rumble, where Razor defended his title by pinning IRS after The Razor's Edge.[34][35]
Around the same time, Ramon was in the early stages of a feud with Shawn Michaels over which man had the stronger claim to the Intercontinental Championship. Michaels had been stripped of the title months before due to "inactivity" (he was actually suspended during that time). He returned to television with his own version of the belt, claiming he was still the champion, since he hadn't been beaten for it.[34] The matter was settled when Ramon defeated Michaels in a ladder match at WrestleMania X, becoming the undisputed Intercontinental Champion after retrieving both belts.[36] This match was voted Pro Wrestling Illustrated's Match of the Year for 1994.[34] It was also the first WWF match to receive a five star rating from Dave Meltzer in his Wrestling Observer Newsletter.[34] On WWE.com, this match is ranked #5 of the Top 24 Matches in WrestleMania History.[37]
Razor continued to feud with Michaels and his bodyguard Diesel. On the April 30 episode of Superstars, he lost the Intercontinental Title to Diesel, after interference from Michaels.[38]
Hall wrestling as Razor Ramon.
Razor defeated Kwang to qualify for the 1994 King of the Ring tournament.[34] He defeated Bam Bam Bigelow in the quarterfinals[39][40] and Irwin R. Schyster in the semifinals,[39][40] before losing in the final match to his old rival Bret Hart's younger brother, Owen.[39][40]
At SummerSlam, Razor (with Walter Payton in his corner) defeated Diesel to win the WWF Intercontinental Championship for a second time, after Shawn Michaels accidentally hit Diesel with Sweet Chin Music.[41][42]
At Survivor Series, he captained a team called "The Bad Guys", consisting of himself, The 1–2–3 Kid, Davey Boy Smith, and The Headshrinkers (Fatu and Sione). They faced The Teamsters (Shawn Michaels, Diesel, Owen Hart, Jim Neidhart, and Jeff Jarrett). Ramon ended up the sole survivor of the match. This began a feud with Jeff Jarrett, which led into the next year.[34][43]
At the 1995 Royal Rumble, Razor lost the Intercontinental Championship to Jarrett, in controversial fashion; Jarrett had originally won the match by count-out, but demanded that the match be restarted so he could win the title. It was, and Jarrett pinned Razor with a small package.[44][45] Razor faced Jarrett in a rematch for the Intercontinental Championship at WrestleMania XI, winning by disqualification when Jarrett's assistant The Roadie interfered. Jarrett retained the title, as a title cannot change hands by countout or disqualification.[46] Razor defeated Jarrett and The Roadie at In Your House 1, in a handicap match.[47]
On May 16, Razor qualified for the King of the Ring tournament by defeating Jacob Blu.[45] Razor defeated Jarrett in a ladder match at a May 19, 1995 house show to win his third WWF Intercontinental Championship.[48] Razor Ramon was the first man to win the Intercontinental Title three times.[48] Three days later (May 22), he lost the title back to Jarrett.[48] On June 9, Razor suffered a rib injury during a ladder match rematch against Jarrett.[45] Around this time, he had formed a team with Savio Vega, and Vega replaced Razor to defeat Irwin R. Schyster in the Free for All tournament match before the King of the Ring pay-per-view.[45] Razor managed Vega throughout the tournament. He lost to Mabel in the final match.[45]
Razor and Vega lost to Men on a Mission (Mabel and Mo) at In Your House 2: The Lumberjacks,[49] and lost a Tag Team Championship match to Owen Hart and Yokozuna on the August 7 episode of Raw.[50]
Razor had an Intercontinental Title ladder match (a rematch from Wrestlemania X) against the new champion Shawn Michaels at SummerSlam,[2][7][45] but lost.[51] He then began a feud with Dean Douglas.
Razor defeated Douglas at In Your House 4 for the Intercontinental Championship, after Michaels had just forfeited the title to Douglas. Hall was the first man to win the title four times.[52][53]
In early 1996, Razor feuded with newcomer Goldust, leading to an Intercontinental Title match at the Royal Rumble. Razor lost the title to Goldust after Razor's former partner, The 1–2–3 Kid (who had previously made a heel turn), attacked him.[54]
He became associated with the backstage group known as The Kliq (also consisting of Kevin Nash (Diesel), Paul Levesque (Hunter Hearst Helmsley), Shawn Michaels, and Sean Waltman (The 1–2–3 Kid)).[55]
Razor Ramon was originally scheduled to face Goldust in a rematch for the title at WrestleMania XII, but Hall was suspended by the WWF due to his drug use.[55] He returned to WWF television at April's In Your House 7, where he lost to Vader.[56]
Hall was involved in "The MSG Incident". Because Hall and fellow Kliq member Kevin Nash were departing for WCW, the pair (along with Michaels and Levesque) broke kayfabe by celebrating and embracing in the ring together, though the characters they portrayed were supposed to be enemies.
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I'm going with Razor based on the fact he was a childhood favourite and always oozed cool. The IC belt on him just looked right. He's consistently mentioned when best never to win the big one comes up. This tournament could right that wrong
he never even really got a crack at the world title but made the IC title seem important. 0 -
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I'll give a vote to Razor. Great arguments to why Jericho deserves to go through. I suppose you can't look past the longevity of his run in the WWE. And tbf it hard to find the time when (champ or not) that Jericho wasn't fun. My vote would go to Razor for his game changing ladder matches with HBK and the fact it is the only title he held in the WWF.
So as Bounty Hunter has just stated we have an all Canadian final with two fantastic IC champs and two guys made and moulded in the Hart family dungeon. Jericho is a nine time WWE Intercontinental Championship and Hart is a two time champ. Both went onto be WWE champion which adding to their tag championships make them two of the 25 Triple crown champions.Please stand a moment for the national anthem and without further ado we'll kick off.
Bret Hart
"The Best There Is, Was and Ever Will Be"
Hart won his first WWF Intercontinental Championship by defeating Mr. Perfect with the Sharpshooter at SummerSlam in 1991,[46][47] and subsequently won the 1991 King of the Ring tournament on September 7, 1991 at the Providence Civic Center in Providence, Rhode Island. At Survivor Series 1991, Bret Hart teamed with The British Bulldog, Virgil, and Roddy Piper against Ted DiBiase, The Mountie, Ric Flair, and The Warlord. Hart was counted out alongside with The Mountie, DiBiase, Piper, and Virgil to make Flair the sole survivor. Hart's first pay-per-view title defense occurred at This Tuesday in Texas, where he beat the undefeated Skinner.[48]
In January 1992, Hart placed in a feud with The Mountie. This feud came about when the Mountie's manager, Jimmy Hart, threw water on Hart. Then, The Mountie proceeded to shock Hart with a cattle prod. On January 17, 1992, Bret Hart dropped the Intercontinental Championship to The Mountie.
Following the loss, Roddy Piper (his real life cousin) defeated Mountie with a sleeper hold two days later at the 1992 Royal Rumble,[49] and Bret would later pin Piper for his second Intercontinental Championship at WrestleMania VIII later that year,[50][51] making him the first, and one of few wrestlers to ever pin Piper's shoulders to the mat.[11]
At a Wrestling Challenge taping on July 21, 1992, Hart defeated Shawn Michaels, with the Intercontinental Championship suspended above the ring, in the WWF's first ever Ladder match, which would subsequently be made available on multiple Coliseum/WWE Home Video releases.[52] Hart dropped the Intercontinental Championship to his brother-in-law, Davey Boy Smith, in Hart's first WWF pay-per-view main event at SummerSlam 1992 held before over 80,000 fans at Wembley Stadium.[53]
Pro Wrestling Illustrated readers voted it the "Match of the Year";[54] WWE has named the match as the greatest in the history of SummerSlam.[55] Upon induction into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2006, Hart would cite the contest as his favorite match of his career.[56]
VSChris Jericho
"So many Y2J incarnations, so many Title Reigns"The "Y2J Problem" and Intercontinental Champion (1999–2000)
Jericho on SmackDown! with Mr. Hughes, his enforcer during his rivalry with Ken Shamrock.
Jericho alternated between WCW and a number of Japanese tours before he signed a contract with the World Wrestling Federation (WWF) on June 30.[24]
In the weeks before Jericho's debut, a clock labelled "countdown to the new millennium" appeared on WWF programming. On the home video, Break Down the Walls, Jericho states he was inspired to do this as his entrance when he saw a similar clock in a post office, and Vince McMahon gave him the green light to use it as his introduction to the WWF. The clock finally ran down on the August 9, 1999 episode of Raw, in Chicago, Illinois, while The Rock was in the ring cutting a promo on the Big Show. Jericho entered the arena and proclaimed "Raw is Jericho" and that he had "come to save the World Wrestling Federation", referring to himself as "Y2J" (a play on the Y2K bug). The Rock proceeded to verbally mock him for his interruption.[25] Later that month, Jericho made his in-ring debut on August 26, losing a match against Road Dogg by disqualification on the inaugural episode of SmackDown! after powerbombing Road Dogg through a table.[26]
Jericho's first long-term feud was with Chyna, for the Intercontinental Championship. After losing to Chyna at the Survivor Series,[27] Jericho won his first Intercontinental title at Armageddon.[28] This feud included a controversial decision during a rematch in which two separate referees declared each one of them the winner of a match for the title.[29] As a result, they became co-champions, until Jericho attained sole champion status at the Royal Rumble.[30] Jericho's subsequent alliance with Chyna, coupled with growing enthusiasm for his ring work and mic skills, effectively turned him into a face.
Feuding and teaming with Chris Benoit (2000–2001)
Jericho lost his title to the European Champion Kurt Angle at No Way Out.[31] On April 2, Jericho competed in a Triple Threat match against Chris Benoit and Angle at WrestleMania 2000 in a two-falls contest with both of Angle's titles at stake. Jericho won the European Championship by pinning Benoit, who in turn pinned Jericho to take the Intercontinental Championship.[32] This was the first of six pay-per-view matches between the pair within twelve months. Jericho lost the title the next day to Eddie Guerrero on Raw after Chyna turned heel to side with Guerrero. On the April 17 episode of Raw, Jericho upset Triple H in a WWF Championship match. Referee Earl Hebner made a fast count when Jericho pinned Triple H, causing Jericho to win the title.[33] Hebner later reversed the decision due to pressure from Triple H, and WWE does not recognize Jericho's reign as champion. On the May 4 episode of SmackDown!, Jericho defeated Benoit to become Intercontinental Champion for the third time,[34] but lost the title to Benoit four days later on Raw.[35] Meanwhile, Jericho's feud with Triple H climaxed at Fully Loaded, when they competed in a Last Man Standing match. Jericho lost the match to Triple H only by one second, despite the repeated assistance Triple H's wife, Stephanie, provided him in the match.[36]
At the 2001 Royal Rumble, Jericho defeated Chris Benoit in a Ladder match to win the Intercontinental Championship for the fourth time.[37] At WrestleMania X-Seven, he successfully defended his title in a match against William Regal,[38] only to lose it four days later to Triple H.
At Judgment Day, Jericho and Benoit won a Tag Team Turmoil match[39] and earned a shot at Stone Cold Steve Austin and Triple H for their WWF Tag Team Championship on Raw the next night. Benoit and Jericho won the match, in which Triple H legitimately tore his quadriceps, spending the rest of the year injured. Benoit and Jericho each became a WWF Tag Team Champion for the first time.[3] The team defended their title in the first Fatal Four-Way Tables, Ladders, and Chairs match where Benoit sustained a year-long injury doing a diving headbutt through a table. Though Benoit was carried out on a stretcher, he returned to the match to climb the ladder and retain the championship. The duo lost the title one month later to the Dudley Boyz on June 19, 2001.[40] That month at King of the Ring, both Benoit and Jericho were named challengers for Austin's WWF Championship in which Booker T interfered as the catalyst for The Invasion angle.
Jericho teamed up with Randy Orton, Chris Benoit, and Maven to take on Triple H, Batista, Edge, and Snitsky at Survivor Series. The match stipulated that each member of the winning team would be the General Manager of Raw over the next four weeks. Jericho's team won, and took turns as General Manager.[54] During Jericho's turn as General Manager, he stripped Triple H of his World Heavyweight Championship because a Triple Threat match for the title a week earlier ended in a draw. At New Year's Revolution, Jericho competed in the Elimination Chamber against Triple H, Chris Benoit, Batista, Randy Orton, and Edge for the vacated World Heavyweight Championship. Jericho began the match with Benoit but Batista ultimately eliminated Jericho.[55] At WrestleMania 21, Jericho participated in the first ever Money in the Bank ladder match. Jericho suggested the match concept, and he competed in the match against Benjamin, Benoit, Kane, Christian, and Edge. Jericho lost the match when Edge claimed the briefcase. At Backlash, Jericho challenging Shelton Benjamin for the Intercontinental Championship, but lost the match. On June 12, 2005, Jericho wrestled in his first match of the ECW One Night Stand pay-per-view event against his former rival, Lance Storm. Jericho used his old 'Lionheart' gimmick, instead of his more well known 'Y2J' gimmick. However, Jericho lost the match, after Jason and Justin Credible hit Jericho's head with a Singapore Cane, which allowed Storm to win the match.
On the April 13 episode of Raw, Jericho was drafted to the SmackDown brand as part of the 2009 WWE Draft.[87] Ricky Steamboat interrupted Jericho's Raw farewell address, which led to the two facing off at Backlash where Jericho came out victorious.[88] In his SmackDown return, Jericho participated in a fatal-four-way elimination match against Kane, Jeff Hardy, and Rey Mysterio. Mysterio executed a 619 on Jericho and then attempted to pin him with a seated senton. Jericho retaliated by throwing a chair at Mysterio and was disqualified. This sparked a feud between the two.[89] Mysterio pinned Jericho after a 619 at Judgment Day to retain the Intercontinental Championship.[90] Jericho defeated Mysterio in a No Holds Barred Match at Extreme Rules to win his ninth Intercontinental Championship, breaking his own record again.[91] At The Bash Jericho lost the Intercontinental title to Mysterio.
Chris Jericho VS Bret Hart
Flashing Jacket VS Pink Shades
The Sharp Shooter VS The Walls of Jericho
The Hart Foundation VS Jericho Personal Security
The In-Ring technician VS "The Highlight Reel" Mouthpiece
Hulkmania/ New Generaton Era VS Attitude/PC Era
I'll finish the voting at some stage tomorrow evening. As with the quarters and semis- Your vote and why your guy is worthy of the Boards.ie PW Intercontinental Championship Tournament. Good luck.0 -
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I wouldn't have had Bret as my winner overall (plus he won the Stables Tournament) but I think Chris Jericho as IC champion became a little repetitive over the years. Bret's only had 2 reigns and I think they stand out a lot more. His match with Davey Boy is the first match I saw that stayed lodged in my memory.
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This is what I thought it'd come down to.
Bret gets my vote. Jericho has the record reigns and he had some amazing matches, and a lot of them are still fresh in my mind.
But, without Bret, there is no Jericho and without Bret making the IC title the prestigious title it has been, Jericho's reigns may have never happened and the IC strap could easily have gone the way of the European title.
Bret vs Piper, Bret vs Bulldog, Bret vs HBK in the ladder match time forgot, Bret vs Perfect. All those matches defined Bret's career. Jericho was already a star before the IC title and it looked great on the man, but Bret has been my man since the start and i'm sticking with him.
PS: Thanks for doing this Shag
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Sin-é that's it. Even though I voted against Bret in earlier rounds he would get my vote in this round. Jericho for me was always entertaining but for me ,outside of the time he had the undisputed champion, he never seemed to be a man that was about belts. All the moments with Jericho revolve around his comedy or ruthless feuds.
So many of Hart's feud revolved around the tag titles, the intercontinental championship or the WWE belt.
Behind WMX I'd say Piper/Hart is probably favourite fight for the belt.
I count that Jericho in a photo finish 6-5.
Your Boards.ie PW Intercontinental Champion Tournament Champion Y.2.J
Chris Jericho.
We have ourselves and oval titled champion.
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U really appear to have a deep hatred for Bret. Its like he started each round minus 1 vote because you were always gonna vote for anyway opponent haha.
( not dissing u either btw, perfectly entitled to do it!)
Anyway the reason I was posting was to say thanks for doing this OP been fun. I missed these.
Well i'm a HBK guy
but in all honesty yeah i just hate Bret i think he's a poor wrestler (not technically) but i find him extremely boring and his mic work sucks just never found him entertaining and then the whole ooh i'm bret hart even tho i'm leaving your company for another one i'm still not going to drop the belt because i'm a pretentious **** just really pissed me off and made me hate him more, thanks for noticing :pac: 0 -
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