Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Complaint upheld against Derek Mooney for 'supporting same-sex marriage' on air

Options
1…1213151718…24

Comments

  • Options
    #422
    ectoraige
    Registered Users Posts: 2,100 ✭✭✭ectoraige


    I reckon everytime a wedding is mentioned on the radio we should all file a complaint - all those fluffy "on my way in the car to my cousin's wedding" requests are just highlighting the status quo...


  • Options
    #423
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    efb wrote: »
    You'd have to be a special kind of crackpot to do so though.

    So?


  • Options
    #424
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Riskymove wrote: »
    did you submit a complaint?

    Ironically, I'm not that anal.


  • Options
    #425
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    efb wrote: »
    And know how to play the system.

    You mean know how to write an email and find the BAI's email address on line? Machiavellian stuff alright.


  • Options
    #426
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,888 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    efb wrote: »
    Ironically, I'm not that anal.

    no complaint, no BAI investigation


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #427
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    You mean know how to write an email and find the BAI's email address on line? Machiavellian stuff alright.

    No dear, know how to interpret and manipulate the code to pursue one's own agenda.

    Why do you heart internet if it's so open???


  • Options
    #428
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    efb wrote: »
    Should all gay couples be kept off air until after the referendum incase it's seen as undue influence????

    That's no where near what the BAI says and could not be taken as a reasonable response to it.


  • Options
    #429
    P_1
    Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Riskymove wrote: »
    but that is exactly what all this rules and guidelines are about

    Broadcasters have a voice, an inflience and an audience, and a duty to be balanced

    Yes that is true, however the audience also has a duty to rub at least two brain cells together and realise that a gay man wishing a gay couple well and hoping that the franchise of marriage would be extended to him is not him trying to subvert the process of democracy.


  • Options
    #430
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    efb wrote: »
    No dear, know how to interpret and manipulate the code to pursue one's own agenda.

    Why do you heart internet if it's so open???

    So knowing how to read? Is that the trick to gagging freedom of speech?


  • Options
    #431
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,888 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    RTE give a platform to people to speak on the radio. If I make a comment here about marriage, does that make it an official position of Boards?
    This particular paradigm when applied to the media is in my view one of the most insidious. The provider of a platform is not responsible for what people use that platform for.

    There is a clear difference between thousands of anonymous people posting on a board and an idenitifed public figure

    and...there was no complaint about the actual topic or the person interviewed giving his personal experiences


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #432
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Riskymove wrote: »
    no complaint, no BAI investigation

    But the people that complained were not concerned about bias in all referenda???

    Only the ones they want to affect.

    If you are concerned about media bias you would surely complain in all instances????


  • Options
    #433
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    So knowing how to read? Is that the trick to gagging freedom of speech?

    Knowing how to play the system


  • Options
    #434
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    efb wrote: »
    Knowing how to play the system

    Or use the system?

    To highlight Derek's actual mistake.


  • Options
    #435
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    Or use the system?

    To their advantage


  • Options
    #436
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,888 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    P_1 wrote: »
    Yes that is true, however the audience also has a duty to rub at least two brain cells together and realise that a gay man wishing a gay couple well and hoping that the franchise of marriage would be extended to him is not him trying to subvert the process of democracy.

    of course, but the BAI can only operate by the code in front of them


  • Options
    #437
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    efb wrote: »
    To their advantage

    Of course.

    You've just learned to play the boards.ie system and typed that response for no reason other than to further your views and gain advantage over me.

    Hang your head in shame efb!!! ;)


  • Options
    #438
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    Of course.

    You've just learned to play the boards.ie system and typed that response for no reason other than to further your views and gain advantage over me.

    Hang your head in shame efb!!! ;)


    Not trying to manipulate what you are allowed type though, am I?


  • Options
    #439
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,888 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    efb wrote: »
    If you are concerned about media bias you would surely complain in all instances????

    this is getting a bit pointless now with hypotheticals, no?

    maybe those people who complained here didn't hear the DJs you are talking about etc.


  • Options
    #440
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users Posts: 21,047 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Waterford whispers covering it brilliantly today


  • Options
    #441
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭Daith


    Riskymove wrote: »
    of course, but the BAI can only operate by the code in front of them

    I thought there was a timescale involving referendum stuff though? I didn't even think that Enda announced that there would be a referendum until July of this year yet this was broadcast in January.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #442
    P_1
    Registered Users Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Riskymove wrote: »
    of course, but the BAI can only operate by the code in front of them

    Which is why the code needs fixing, if it can be manipulated by people with a clear agenda then there's something clearly wrong with it.


  • Options
    #443
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Riskymove wrote: »
    this is getting a bit pointless now with hypotheticals, no?

    maybe those people who complained here didn't hear the DJs you are talking about etc.

    I wonder what a breakdown of their complaints would show? A broad spectrum concerned with media bias or media bias in situations that they disprove of???


  • Options
    #444
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    efb wrote: »
    Not trying to manipulate what you are allowed type though, am I?

    But the right to do just that exists - if I fall foul of the boards.ie rules, you can report my post and I will be sanctioned. Even if I'm not guilty of anything, you can still report me.

    Derek Mooney was guilty of breaching broadcasting standards. The BAI have reprimanded him for that. You may not like that. But it's really simple.


  • Options
    #445
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,888 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Daith wrote: »
    I thought there was a timescale involving referendum stuff though? I didn't even think that Enda announced that there would be a referendum until July of this year yet this was broadcast in January.

    covered earlier

    there is another system of rules for actual referendum campaigns etc

    this is about a more general code of conduct


  • Options
    #446
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭Daith


    A benefit I would see is if pro-equal marriage groups decline to appear on broadcasts until closer to the referendum. Would be nice not to hear from Iona, et all until then.


  • Options
    #447
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,888 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    efb wrote: »
    I wonder what a breakdown of their complaints would show? A broad spectrum concerned with media bias or media bias in situations that they disprove of???

    Oh I am sure you are right about what drives people to complain

    but that doesn't change the fact that something breeches a code or not

    Likewise I could suggest the people giving out about the people who complained here are doing so because they approve of same-sex marriage and has nothing to do with the actual question in hand on the code.


  • Options
    #448
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,888 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    P_1 wrote: »
    Which is why the code needs fixing, if it can be manipulated by people with a clear agenda then there's something clearly wrong with it.

    but I don't see how its being "manipulated"

    it is what it is and broadcasters should be aware of it


  • Options
    #449
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Riskymove wrote: »
    but I don't see how its being "manipulated"

    it is what it is and broadcasters should be aware of it

    When it's something I like it's being "used".

    When it's something I'm against it's being "manipulated".


  • Options
    #450
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Maybe they should police it themselves rather than only act on the instruction of interest groups


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #451
    Daith
    Registered Users Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭Daith


    efb wrote: »
    Maybe they should police it themselves rather than only act on the instruction of interest groups

    That's unfair. It's a process which was followed.


Advertisement