LC Off Topic Thread (2015/16)

Beca19

mayogirlie1 wrote: »

I am really considering dropping higher level maths I got an A2 in my Christmas test and my teacher would probably kill me if I drop but its just so much work! Is trigonometry the worst or should I just stick at it?

Seriously?! Of course you should keep it up if you're getting A2s in christmas tests.. If you're getting that with effort, you can probably get a B3 with little effort, which is the equivalent of an A1 + a lot of effort in another subject.. Your teacher most likely won't let you drop and I don't blame him you'd be mad to. If there weren't bonus points available then MAYBE buuuut there is..

Kremin

mayogirlie1 wrote: »

I am really considering dropping higher level maths I got an A2 in my Christmas test and my teacher would probably kill me if I drop but its just so much work! Is trigonometry the worst or should I just stick at it?

If you're getting an A2 don't drop. Everyone is weaker in some areas, some people find trig the hardest and some people find algebra the hardest. If you do mocks in your school at least wait until after those. If you're good at everything bar trig you could pass with flying colours by just acing paper 1 and the probability/stats questions on paper 2.

Kremin

Take Your Pants Off wrote: »

Hello guys has any of ye done this coordinate geometry question before, its on page 16 text and text 4.
Q15.
Find the equation of the line that is parallel to the line 3x-y+4=0 and which contains the point of intersection of the lines 2x+3y=12 and 3x-4y=1.

Slop of the parralel line is 3.. Find point of intersection of two lines, then we have a point and the slope, all we need to use y-y1=mx-mx1

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Just wonder is eilean ni chuilleanain due to come up this tear for english paper 2?

Beca19

Has anyone here done gaisce?? If yes may I ask you a question

9de5q7tsr8u2im

Any good notes on foster by claire keegan anyone need it by tonight as i have p2 tmw

kb98

Beca I did it last year

Beca19

kb98 wrote: »

Beca I did it last year

Ok cool you know for the personal skill?? Are you allowed choose an instrument (guitar) but not go to lessons? Cos I definitely play more than an hour a week but I've never got lessons so yeah I'm wondering if they let you use that for the skill and who would sign for it?:/

kb98

if you do it at home like your mam or dad can sign it I think, I remember people did baking at home with their mam or grandma and they just got their mam to sign it

Beca19

kb98 wrote: »

if you do it at home like your mam or dad can sign it I think, I remember people did baking at home with their mam or grandma and they just got their mam to sign it

Hahah okay sound thanks

kb98

https://www.tcd.ie/study/assets/pdf/TCD-AdmReqs-2015.pdf
Page 5 of this

user53

Thank you

coolerboy

Half day today Thanks to the snow

DublinArnie

How are you guys finding the sraith pictures?

I'm managing to learn one off by heart in 20 odd minutes by reciting it like a mad man.

This is great and all, but my long term memory will just make it vanish in a week or so.

Consonata

DublinArnie wrote: »

How are you guys finding the sraith pictures?

I'm managing to learn one off by heart in 20 odd minutes by reciting it like a mad man.

This is great and all, but my long term memory will just make it vanish in a week or so.

I find it concerning that the Irish oral, which was designed to test the working knowledge of the language to counteract the problems of the written paper has been turned into a wrote learning exam too

DublinArnie

Consonata wrote: »

I find it concerning that the Irish oral, which was designed to test the working knowledge of the language to counteract the problems of the written paper has been turned into a wrote learning exam too

The whole exam is messed up. The government need to change it big time, don't know how they expect everyone to reach that level just by going through Primary and Secondary school.

Consonata

DublinArnie wrote: »

The whole exam is messed up. The government need to change it big time, don't know how they expect everyone to reach that level just by going through Primary and Secondary school.

If they improved the way they taught it at primary level then perhaps. Its the only subject currently that has more OL students taking it than higher level, and a vast proportion of the people taking it at HL are only there because it they need it for primary teaching.

randylonghorn

Consonata wrote: »

.... has been turned into a rote learning exam too

One of the central problems with second-level education in Ireland at the moment, and not just with Irish ... and it has its genesis in a tangled web in which the points race / pressure on students to achieve high points as the priority over an education / pressure to teach to the exam rather the curriculum (from parents and students) / full- and part-time grind schools which do that, and are seen as "better" because they do ... all of these and other factors contribute to a tangle which is extremely hard to unravel.

DublinArnie wrote: »

The whole exam is messed up. The government need to change it big time, don't know how they expect everyone to reach that level just by going through Primary and Secondary school.

If you were to compare the actual number of teaching hours which students get at second-level in a foreign language to achieve the average level of proficiency achieved at LC in those, with the number of teaching hours which students get throughout their schooling in Irish and the average proficiency achieved at LC, one would expect the Irish language standard at LC to be much higher in fact.

Consonata

randylonghorn wrote: »

If you were to compare the actual number of teaching hours which students get at second-level in a foreign language to achieve the average level of proficiency achieved at LC in those, with the number of teaching hours which students get throughout their schooling in Irish and the average proficiency achieved at LC, one would expect the Irish language standard at LC to be much higher in fact.

I know but since teachers won't be actually seen as doing well if they try to teach actual Irish, those teaching hours are wasted away wrote learning whatever sraithpictiur, essays etc.

spurious

Consonata wrote: »

I know but since teachers won't be actually seen as doing well if they try to teach actual Irish, those teaching hours are wasted away wrote learning whatever sraithpictiur, essays etc.

The exam-driven system. The horse leading the cart.
Apart from one Maths paper, we never saw an exam paper or a marking scheme when I sat the Leaving in 1980. Didn't do us a bit of harm. It meant we had to actually know the stuff and be ready to answer any question on it.

DublinArnie

How's school going for everyone?

Beca19

DublinArnie wrote: »

How's school going for everyone?

Meh I'm sick so missed a few days and I'm pretty behind :P also struggling to write an essay on Elizabeth Bishop :rolleyes:

Take Your Pants Off

Since the start of the year I have been studying from exam qs for all my subjects apart from business and maths.
For example, if I had a biology test tomorrow on photosynthesis I would study all the photosynthesis qs's that came up for a number of years back. The results showed good. I have been getting above 70 in all my tests so far.
But my friends tell me that by doing this you actually wont understand anything, your just learning text.
I do understand as I learn it, but problem is, would this cause any upsets or any downsides to my way of studying for lc.
Obviously I will use the book notes etc when it comes the time to study for the lc exams, but atm in 5th year?

randylonghorn

There's nothing wrong with looking back on old exam questions for a topic, in fact it's a good idea.

However, there are two possible dangers:

1) Assuming that if you have covered everything that came up before, you're safe. Nothing stopping them putting up something that hasn't come up before, or at least taking a new angle on it.

2) Learning off answers by rote memory (if I'm understanding you correctly). This can make it difficult to adapt to even a slightly different approach in the question.

A better approach would be to make sure you know and *understand* the material first, then look back on old exam questions and check that you can answer them ... thus putting the horse back firmly in front of the cart, rather than the other way round!

Take Your Pants Off

randylonghorn wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with looking back on old exam questions for a topic, in fact it's a good idea.

However, there are two possible dangers:

1) Assuming that if you have covered everything that came up before, you're safe. Nothing stopping them putting up something that hasn't come up before, or at least taking a new angle on it.

2) Learning off answers by rote memory (if I'm understanding you correctly). This can make it difficult to adapt to even a slightly different approach in the question.

A better approach would be to make sure you know and *understand* the material first, then look back on old exam questions and check that you can answer them ... thus putting the horse back firmly in front of the cart, rather than the other way round!

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INFO AND ADVICE, MUCH APPRECIATED.

Troxck

Take Your Pants Off wrote: »

Since the start of the year I have been studying from exam qs for all my subjects apart from business and maths.
For example, if I had a biology test tomorrow on photosynthesis I would study all the photosynthesis qs's that came up for a number of years back. The results showed good. I have been getting above 70 in all my tests so far.
But my friends tell me that by doing this you actually wont understand anything, your just learning text.
I do understand as I learn it, but problem is, would this cause any upsets or any downsides to my way of studying for lc.
Obviously I will use the book notes etc when it comes the time to study for the lc exams, but atm in 5th year?

This is a good approach, however it is dangerous to do. If you are only rote answering questions, you're going to lose out, if a curve ball is thrown at you in an exam you won't be able to handle it.

I don't do Biology but I do Physics and I suppose lab sciences at second level can be similar in terms of approach. In fifth year I learnt how to answer questions without undertsnading it, ended up being a terrible idea as my teacher then gave us questions from an obscure mock for our summer test, it was awful.

This year I decided I would understand the topics rather than rote learn answers. I had my mock paper recently and although you could do well with just rote learning, a lot of questions were there for those who took time to understand the topic. This time I was ready as I fully understood the area rather than just knowing past examples.

It also makes the subject much more interesting.

I hope this made some sense.

spurious

Troxck's approach means you can also look at questions from other systems (GCSE exams, Australian exams etc.) and try to answer them too, all the time improving your own competence.

Troxck

spurious wrote: »

Troxck's approach means you can also look at questions from other systems (GCSE exams, Australian exams etc.) and try to answer them too, all the time improving your own competence.

This is very true, I was able to use questions from AP Physics from America along with others.

Ask your teacher for mocks if possible, if your teacher has been around a while, he/she will have a massive selection. Whenever we revise, we get about 10 A4 pages of past pre questions.

Don't make my mistake, I wasted a whole year doing this and it's catching up with me now.

user53

Hey, i was wondering if anyone could help me, I'm looking for websites for researching college courses, i know qualifax and careersportal and they're very good but i remember awhile ago being on a site and on it you could search up a course and it had reviews written by people in the course but i forget the name. Does anyone know the name of this site or any other good sites? Thanks

koolis02

I hate home ec journals with a passion >:(

spurious

user53 wrote: »

Hey, i was wondering if anyone could help me, I'm looking for websites for researching college courses, i know qualifax and careersportal and they're very good but i remember awhile ago being on a site and on it you could search up a course and it had reviews written by people in the course but i forget the name. Does anyone know the name of this site or any other good sites? Thanks

The two sites you have mentioned are the best.

I can't see how you could have valid reviews of college courses, since very few people would have done more than one, so how would they know if a course is better/worse than another?

user53

spurious wrote: »

The two sites you have mentioned are the best.

I can't see how you could have valid reviews of college courses, since very few people would have done more than one, so how would they know if a course is better/worse than another?

Its more like they write a review on the course they've done and if they would recommend it and the pros and cons and then the person using the site looks up a course and could read the pros and cons of that course and another course and thinks about which course is better for them.

Anonymagician

The site is called coursehub but it seems to be down now. It was very useful, had loads of stuff from how many hours a week to what the nightlife is like.

user53

Anonymagician wrote: »

The site is called coursehub but it seems to be down now. It was very useful, had loads of stuff from how many hours a week to what the nightlife is like.

that's unfortunate thank you though

spurious

Looks like it's been dead a while, though the registration is still valid.
Last capture for the Internet archive was August 2014.

Take Your Pants Off

Anyone have notes on Foster by Claire Keegan, looking for cultural context especially.

DublinArnie

Take Your Pants Off wrote: »

Anyone have notes on Foster by Claire Keegan, looking for cultural context especially.

The novel is set in rural ireland, during the 1980s (the hunger strike thing supports that). You can see the culture being very different, with the wake and everyone being very neighbourly when compared to city life even now days.

Etc

CookieCat97

Hi guys can anyone help me solve this, we did it in class but I completely forget how to get the answers. The answers (at the back of the book) are 15x-8y+78=0 or 15x-8y-92=0 but I've no idea how to get to that point here's the question:
Find the equation of the lines that are perpendicular to 8x+15y+1=0 and are a distance of 5 units from (1,1)

Kremin

CookieCat97 wrote: »

Hi guys can anyone help me solve this, we did it in class but I completely forget how to get the answers. The answers (at the back of the book) are 15x-8y+78=0 or 15x-8y-92=0 but I've no idea how to get to that point here's the question:
Find the equation of the lines that are perpendicular to 8x+15y+1=0 and are a distance of 5 units from (1,1)

here you go, I don't know if it's my error or yours but the signs at the end are different than the answers you gave. I think mine is correct, when you are getting the perpendicular line you change the sign and the coefficient.

CookieCat97

Kremin wrote: »

here you go, I don't know if it's my error or yours but the signs at the end are different than the answers you gave. I think mine is correct, when you are getting the perpendicular line you change the sign and the coefficient.

Thank you so much! I understand it now!

iCrazzy

Anyone here do chemistry could help me with Q.1 part(iv)

coolerboy

I think it goes from a golden-brown colour to a pale yellow colour but not sure.:) And if you Add starch solution it goes blue/black

TheEdgeofGlory

iCrazzy wrote: »

Anyone here do chemistry could help me with Q.1 part(iv)

How many chapters have you covered in chemistry? :eek:

Take Your Pants Off

TheEdgeofGlory wrote: »

How many chapters have you covered in chemistry? :eek:

We only have 8 more chapters left.

Seanf999

Sorry for butting in but one thing I still have no clue about is note taking. In school we just write what the teachers scribbling on the board, answer questions and all that craic into the one copy. I've had other teachers say that we should be doing our own little note taking (condensing down everything we took down in class) some say we should have a duplicate copy at home for everyone one of our copies. Now I don't know about other schools but we haven't been told anything of how to actually take notes we were just told to do it but then the teacher gives out if your writing when she is talking!
My biggest issue is when I go to study I can never use my copy because 1-the page is crammed with words so I can barely see what the hell I'm looking at. And secondly I have to flick through 3 copies full 50/50 with stuff that may be useful and stuff that is not useful its like a minefield.
How do ye manage?

iCrazzy

Seanf999 wrote: »

Sorry for butting in but one thing I still have no clue about is note taking. In school we just write what the teachers scribbling on the board, answer questions and all that craic into the one copy. I've had other teachers say that we should be doing our own little note taking (condensing down everything we took down in class) some say we should have a duplicate copy at home for everyone one of our copies. Now I don't know about other schools but we haven't been told anything of how to actually take notes we were just told to do it but then the teacher gives out if your writing when she is talking!
My biggest issue is when I go to study I can never use my copy because 1-the page is crammed with words so I can barely see what the hell I'm looking at. And secondly I have to flick through 3 copies full 50/50 with stuff that may be useful and stuff that is not useful its like a minefield.
How do ye manage?

I have two copies for most of my subjects.
1 copy for just notes taking other for hw.

Kremin

Seanf999 wrote: »

My biggest issue is when I go to study I can never use my copy because 1-the page is crammed with words so I can barely see what the hell I'm looking at.

And that's why you take notes :P. I think the reason teachers make you take down what they write on the board is to ensure you are still concentrated/listening. If you didn't it's a lot easier to drift off.

To take notes I'd advise getting a second copy, an A4 Hardback if possible (lots of space and will last the test of time, a softback copy will fall apart etc)

Clearly put a title on the page so you know exactly what the notes are for.
Depending on how much you need, take notes. (Some people require like 5 words that they remember which triggers an entire paragraph, some people need to write almost everything to remember it. It really comes down to how much you retained from the book/class. If you don't remember it, write it down.)

Use different colour pens, highlighters, whatever helps. If you write the entire thing in black pen you're more likely to lose focus, writing in different colours helps retain focus. i.e write sentences in black, statistics in red and quotes in blue, obviously tailored to each subject.

And write the notes neatly, it's easier to just get a second copy than it is to read crammed together words in the end.

I'm no expert on notetaking but this is what we've been told constantly from various teachers. Just remember different people have different methods. Some people would prefer just to write out an essay and learn it rather than take notes on it. Some people don't even take notes, they just use their books to answer exam questions etc. In the end you have to do what works for you.

iCrazzy

Hey guys. Can anyone with free time solve this qs.10

Kremin

iCrazzy wrote: »

Hey guys. Can anyone with free time solve this qs.10

Distance formula looks like,
distance from A->P compared to distance from B->P
From the tables books, the formula for distance is sqrt(x2-x1)^2+(y2-y1)^2

AP = sqrt(4-2)^2+(-3-(-2))^2
= sqrt(4+1)
=sqrt5

BP= sqrt(-2-2)^2+(0-(-2))^2
= sqrt(16+4)
=2sqrt5

sqrt5:2sqrt5
AP:PB
1:2

Disorganised Disaster

Anyone have any tips on time management? I've never really had to structure my study to do well before and I genuinely have no idea where to start in terms of making a timetable or anything! :L