Last straw with Gamestop and what not

Generic Dreadhead

Went into Gamestop today and they shot me in the face with a shotgun
Right in my face
F**k that, I'm not going back there, that's the last straw
They did give me 20% extra on my next trade it though

/\/ollog

/\/ollog wrote: »

same.
I guess we just don't like a company that forces things on you, and voice our concerns about it to other people to spread our dis-taste at unsavoury practises.

what do they force on you

mackD

Their next day delivery service is to be commended though! I ordered from their site on Monday and my item is still waiting in their warehouse to be dispatched...might be lucky if it arrives by little christmas.

cloud493

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

This system will never be online, so not such a big deal.

Game installs? You only get 8gb of space, runs out within one or two games.

Nollog

Kareem Fierce Wintergreen wrote: »

what do they force on you

Nothing, and everything.
You can avoid their stores, or you can go in and buy something.
The second one is where they force policies on you.

Could you not go in? Yes.
Is that the point? No.
Do you want to be semantic about the word "force"? Yes.

I hope this solves all your queries on my post.

CiDeRmAn

cloud493 wrote: »

Game installs? You only get 8gb of space, runs out within one or two games.

I'm not expecting this chap to have a massive library of titles tbh.
And without mandatory updates on day one it should be a space saver.

CiDeRmAn

/\/ollog wrote: »

Nothing, and everything.
You can avoid their stores, or you can go in and buy something.
The second one is where they force policies on you.

Could you not go in? Yes.
Is that the point? No.
Do you want to be semantic about the word "force"? Yes.

I hope this solves all your queries on my post.

There really isn't any semantics at work here, no word play, not trying to be clever and catch someone out.
They have introduced measures that mean having a loyalty card when trading in.
This is a way to track you and generate revenue and I can see how this is a chance in their terms and conditions and can tick people off.
But they aren't alone
CEX demand the same and so do Xtravision, before you can trade in there you have to be a member, have a token, keyring or card that is linked to your details.
So, essentially, GS are following what has become normal business practice, however much of a drag as it might be.
Doing business with them means agreeing to the conditions of business with them, and a loyalty card is one of those conditions.
It's not forced once you understand its part of the deal now.
And if it is not to your satisfaction then walk out.
The choices of where to shop are entirely yours.
And if enough people were to walk away from trading with GS as a result of the loyalty card scheme then they'd probably have to abandon it.
Time and profits will tell then.

/\/ollog

/\/ollog wrote: »

Nothing, and everything.
You can avoid their stores, or you can go in and buy something.
The second one is where they force policies on you.

Could you not go in? Yes.
Is that the point? No.
Do you want to be semantic about the word "force"? Yes.

I hope this solves all your queries on my post.

I'm not being semantic about the word force when i shop there i get asked a question or two say no and thats that i feel like your massively overusing the word its no bigger a deal than a petrol station asking if i got petrol/want a loyalty card

Nollog

My problem wasn't a loyalty card, I got one myself to get extra trade in, I was talking about how expensive they are, and how they take advantage of parents who don't know better that €75 = a game price, since i've only been to gamestop.

J Mysterio

They take advantage of crumblies big time, they dont know any better.

I dont know why anyone would defend the shop.
The 'you dont have to in' argument pisses me off. People obviously want a b&m shop but they also dont want to pay inflated rip off prices.

CiDeRmAn

J Mysterio wrote: »

They take advantage of crumblies big time, they dont know any better.

I dont know why anyone would defend the shop.
The 'you dont have to in' argument pisses me off. People obviously want a b&m shop but they also dont want to pay inflated rip off prices.

It's not like it's the only shop to go to, Argos, Smyth's, Xtravision.
And it's not about defending the shop.
Rather it's not indulging the notion that people have no choice but to go in and spend money there, that they are coerced in some regard.
No sense of personal responsibility, more "it isn't my fault, someone else did it to me" nonsense.

J Mysterio

J Mysterio wrote: »

They take advantage of crumblies big time, they dont know any better.

I dont know why anyone would defend the shop.
The 'you dont have to in' argument pisses me off. People obviously want a b&m shop but they also dont want to pay inflated rip off prices.

for me at least its less defending the shop than being curious as to why people get so irate about a shop overcharging/ pushing there peripherals in this particular industry the things in practise are used in most industries but iv a few buddies as well who swear that gamestop is the devil because of them.

Nollog

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

It's not like it's the only shop to go to, Argos, Smyth's, Xtravision.
And it's not about defending the shop.
Rather it's not indulging the notion that people have no choice but to go in and spend money there, that they are coerced in some regard.
No sense of personal responsibility, more "it isn't my fault, someone else did it to me" nonsense.

Kareem Fierce Wintergreen wrote: »

for me at least its less defending the shop than being curious as to why people get so irate about a shop overcharging/ pushing there peripherals in this particular industry the things in practise are used in most industries but iv a few buddies as well who swear that gamestop is the devil because of them.

I know I say they're not worth dealing with, and complain about them in the hopes potential customers see my negative remarks and look elsewhere.

arkslippy123

Cormac... wrote: »

Went into Gamestop today and they shot me in the face with a shotgun
Right in my face
F**k that, I'm not going back there, that's the last straw
They did give me 20% extra on my next trade it though

Camping b*****d's.

Generic Dreadhead

I inboxed them some offensive content about their family and reported them for hacking.
Cannot stand the place
Would never give them my business.
I've got a further 20% back off my next 3 trades.
After I swap another couple of games with them, that's it, I'm done!

Nollog

Cormac... wrote: »

I inboxed them some offensive content about their family and reported them for hacking.
Cannot stand the place
Would never give them my business.
I've got a further 20% back off my next 3 trades.
After I swap another couple of games with them, that's it, I'm done!

What you need to do, is only do trades that will hurt them, some games they'll never shift.
That's what I (try) to do at least.

J Mysterio

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

It's not like it's the only shop to go to, Argos, Smyth's, Xtravision.
And it's not about defending the shop.
Rather it's not indulging the notion that people have no choice but to go in and spend money there, that they are coerced in some regard.
No sense of personal responsibility, more "it isn't my fault, someone else did it to me" nonsense.

You just cant bring yourself to accept the simple and valid argument that the prices they are charging are ridiculous.

Never mind that there are other stores.

One would think you have some sort of vested interest.

J Mysterio

Kareem Fierce Wintergreen wrote: »

for me at least its less defending the shop than being curious as to why people get so irate about a shop overcharging/ pushing there peripherals in this particular industry the things in practise are used in most industries but iv a few buddies as well who swear that gamestop is the devil because of them.

What? That's a very confused post.

They overcharge, that's the problem. Otherwise, good shop.

CiDeRmAn

J Mysterio wrote: »

You just cant bring yourself to accept the simple and valid argument that the prices they are charging are ridiculous.

Never mind that there are other stores.

One would think you have some sort of vested interest.

I'm not sure if replying to you is just going to result in a similar personal comment
But, with that in mind.
I never had an issue with the suggestion that they charge a lot for games, both new and preowned, and their trade in values are very low.

And, with that in mind, of course other stores are relevant.
Because if GameStop had a monopoly then it would be an issue, but they don't.
You can vote with your feet and shop in the other shops that provide the same service.

And, as for the vested interest comment, grow up

J Mysterio

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I never had an issue with the suggestion that they charge a lot for games, both new and preowned, and their trade in values are very low.

That would have done.

vcshqkf9rpzgoe

Anyone know a rough estimate of how much I would get if I traded in a playstation 3 at gamestop? Thinking of getting a ps4

CiDeRmAn

J Mysterio wrote: »

That would have done.

Not really, the proponents of the position that this manner of business makes them thieves is what was initially the point offered.
And that was the point of contention.
And what I replied to.

Pay for a bottle of perfume or aftershave in Boots and you'll pay a certain amount, do the same in Brown Thomas and you'll be charged more, they aren't considered thieves for doing so, yet somehow when you sell videogames you are, for the same practice.

CiDeRmAn

Dangelo Short Poppycock wrote: »

Anyone know a rough estimate of how much I would get if I traded in a playstation 3 at gamestop? Thinking of getting a ps4

Better off selling it on Adverts tbh, or CEX, put the credit there towards a preowned PS4, save some money.
GS are bound to disappoint with their console trade in values.

J Mysterio

Spam.

cloud493

Depends on the kind. They won't take the older models at all.

TerrorFirmer

Gamestop offer terrible prices. Even for a new enough PS3 they'd give you about 70. It's what they offered me for a 250GB 360 S model (and that's credit!).

Best off selling second hand on adverts or donedeal. CEX offer the best trade in cash/credit as far as I know.

CiDeRmAn

J Mysterio wrote: »

Spam.

?

J Mysterio

That's me facepalming.

CiDeRmAn

Work away so.

Poopooojhuukkg

Don't even bother with them... My cousin went to pick up smash 3ds 1 &1/2 weeks after it came out in Ireland in smyths picked it up for 45 euro all fine.. Later that day i was in GameStop looking to pick it was full ****ing 60 euro and wasn't gonna be out until a week... Not to mention I saw destiny for 85 euro.... ****in scam artists

cloud493

Its not really much of a scam though, as we've discussed over this longer than I expected thread :P its an unfair mark up maybe, but I suppose it would only be a scan/con if it (say smash) was marked at 40, I take it to the till and they charge me 60 for it.

ShadowHearth

Ill throw in some positivity for gamestop as always in this thread, its only bad **** goes around.

I was trying to sell my Wii U on adverts and I was getting low balled or zero to no intrest. I would have taken 260eu for everything I got. In the end I just got sick of it and brought it to gamestop and got 250eu credit... :rolleyes: With zero hassle and no need to to deal with muppets or spending money on petrol to bring it somewhere.
I was looking for xbox one anyway and Gamestop had a very nice deal. Xbox one with Halo and Destiny for 399eu ( both physical copies ). Its a great deal, but no one will mention it, because its more fun to moan and bitch about bad deals Gamestop has.
I walked in to Gamestop and had a good deal on trade in and brand new console. No one was forcing me to buy a game for 75eu. It might be shocking, for some people, but it is possible to deal with business and chose the products and services you find good for you and completely ignoring the ones that dont suit you. :pac:

On customer service topic now. When I got my xbox one, I got an issue of a noisy Power Brick. I am on my third Power Brick right now and Lads were extremely helpful with my issue. It is still noisy as **** and I was asked if I want just to bring xbox one and get a full replacement, NO problems at all. No one got annoyed by me or tried to Ban me from Gamestop shops as annoying customer...
All staff I met in any Gamestop were always very nice to me and helpful. I am not saying that there are no odd balls who are assholes ( I have not met a single one in gamestop yet ), but you will meet such people in any industry. You have to remember that lads who work in gamestop meet A TON asshole customers and have to be patient and polite with them. I heard some really good stories, where I would not have patients to deal with such idiots.

TL;DR: Gamestop is a business like any others. If you find a good deal, then do business with them, if you dont find a good deal, dont do business with them. No one holds a loaded gun to your head. Try not to be a C*nt and People wont be C*nts to you, but this is more of a common sence life rule.

CiDeRmAn

Poopooojhuukkg wrote: »

Don't even bother with them... My cousin went to pick up smash 3ds 1 &1/2 weeks after it came out in Ireland in smyths picked it up for 45 euro all fine.. Later that day i was in GameStop looking to pick it was full ****ing 60 euro and wasn't gonna be out until a week... Not to mention I saw destiny for 85 euro.... ****in scam artists

Seeing as its 75 on the PS4 and 65 on the PS3 it seems unlikely the price was correct.

terryduff12

Went to Gamestop trading in Shadow of Mordor on 360 its was only out a week bought for €52 offered me €20 trade in credit, went down the road to Xtravision only offering €25 trade in credit I seen they were giving 35 for Shadow on xbox one even thought its been out for well over 2 months. Cex are giving €39 big difference.

CiDeRmAn

I haven't traded anything in Gamestop in yonks, not since the prices on offer dropped.
CEX consistently do better, but they don't stock brand new games, so if you are after something recent with DLC codes intact, you'll have to pony up.
Do Smyths or Xtravision/HMV take trades?

cloud493

They do, but lower prices/less variety than gamestop I believe.

mayordenis

J Mysterio wrote: »

You just cant bring yourself to accept the simple and valid argument that the prices they are charging are ridiculous.

Never mind that there are other stores.

One would think you have some sort of vested interest.

They are expensive, off licences are generally more expensive than supermarkets, it costs you more to go to a restaurant than to buy the equivalent and cook it yourself.

Why is this even being talked about?

The parents don't know any better argument is garbage too, in this day and age people need to be capable of shopping around the internet isn't a 'new found out' anymore.

I go into gamestop every so often and and see if they have any offers, they generally don't, but the odd time they do, look in the bargain alerts thread and you'll see them pop up every so often.

The have every right to charge a price they think will maximise their profits, every right, you have every right to get the best price available and buy online or in another shop.

CiDeRmAn

Every time I think I'm done with this thread I wind up reading new posts and repeating the same obvious points to an incredulous few.
But, I can give it up anytime I like, honestly I can...

I don't know too many businesses that will let a gormless shopper with money to burn wander out of the store without squeezing them for every cent they can.
I don't agree with this practice but it is the capitalist way and it would be naive to assume otherwise, and Gamestop are no different than any of the rest.
Imagining they are some evil empire out to steal is just the same tired excuses from people who are too lazy or thick to shop around.

Dayum

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Every time I think I'm done with this thread I wind up reading new posts and repeating the same obvious points to an incredulous few.
But, I can give it up anytime I like, honestly I can...

I don't know too many businesses that will let a gormless shopper with money to burn wander out of the store without squeezing them for every cent they can.
I don't agree with this practice but it is the capitalist way and it would be naive to assume otherwise, and Gamestop are no different than any of the rest.
Imagining they are some evil empire out to steal is just the same tired excuses from people who are too lazy or thick to shop around.

The reason they're still alive is because there exists a market for them. We don't have to bash Gamestop but we can sure as hell bash the idiots that keep them afloat.

Nollog

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Ill throw in some positivity for gamestop as always in this thread, its only bad **** goes around.

I was trying to sell my Wii U on adverts and I was getting low balled or zero to no intrest. I would have taken 260eu for everything I got. In the end I just got sick of it and brought it to gamestop and got 250eu credit... :rolleyes: With zero hassle and no need to to deal with muppets or spending money on petrol to bring it somewhere.
I was looking for xbox one anyway and Gamestop had a very nice deal. Xbox one with Halo and Destiny for 399eu ( both physical copies ). Its a great deal, but no one will mention it, because its more fun to moan and bitch about bad deals Gamestop has.
I walked in to Gamestop and had a good deal on trade in and brand new console. No one was forcing me to buy a game for 75eu. It might be shocking, for some people, but it is possible to deal with business and chose the products and services you find good for you and completely ignoring the ones that dont suit you. :pac:

On customer service topic now. When I got my xbox one, I got an issue of a noisy Power Brick. I am on my third Power Brick right now and Lads were extremely helpful with my issue. It is still noisy as **** and I was asked if I want just to bring xbox one and get a full replacement, NO problems at all. No one got annoyed by me or tried to Ban me from Gamestop shops as annoying customer...
All staff I met in any Gamestop were always very nice to me and helpful. I am not saying that there are no odd balls who are assholes ( I have not met a single one in gamestop yet ), but you will meet such people in any industry. You have to remember that lads who work in gamestop meet A TON asshole customers and have to be patient and polite with them. I heard some really good stories, where I would not have patients to deal with such idiots.

TL;DR: Gamestop is a business like any others. If you find a good deal, then do business with them, if you dont find a good deal, dont do business with them. No one holds a loaded gun to your head. Try not to be a C*nt and People wont be C*nts to you, but this is more of a common sence life rule.

Yeah, they're only decent when you have something to trade in that they think is more valuable than the market does, and screw them over.

CiDeRmAn

You're just bitter because people think your username is forward slash, backward slash, forward slash ollog!
Truth is it's a christmassy as pudding!

super_furry

Indeed. I released that just after posting and so deleted. Bit too hasty to man the pitchforks.

Generic Dreadhead

This thread resurfacing makes me a sad panda
which is unusual seeing as I'm a human

EdragonXX

Dayum wrote: »

The reason they're still alive is because there exists a market for them. We don't have to bash Gamestop but we can sure as hell bash the idiots that keep them afloat.

True, there is so many people buying games. I understand some guys who wants physical copy on the release day. They do not want wait until to next week to get game. But who are buying weeks later or months later these games there? Just checked some pre-owned Xbox One and PS4 games, these prices are unvelievable high. They are selling these games for €45-€55. Same time you can buy these games as new from amazon or anywhere else for only €30.