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Garda and rent arrears

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    #32
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    handlemaster wrote: »
    This person is an adult. The issue here is they did not honor their committment. They need to act like an adult and spell out to the landlord when he/she will be paid. Just saying i cant pay isnt good enought.

    P.s. Garda dont interfer in civil matters

    Just saying can't pay is in fact good enough, it may lead to serious civil remedies, but while the LL is entitled to his judgement no court can order a person to pay what they don't have. That of course may lead to serious black mark on the person credit rating or even worse.

    To owe money has not been a crime for a few hundred years but thankfully http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/act/pub/0026/sec0011.html#sec11 section 11 still is.


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    #33
    Larry Wildman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Larry Wildman


    The issue here is not a Garda trying to resolve a problem...it's the degenerate and deliquent tenant who won't pay his rent.

    Perhaps if the Gardai intervened in situtations like this a little more, there would be less bad debts.


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    #34
    Calhoun
    Registered Users Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    Larry Wildman wrote: »
    The issue here is not a Garda trying to resolve a problem...it's the degenerate and deliquent tenant who won't pay his rent.

    Perhaps if the Gardai intervened in situtations like this a little more, there would be less bad debts.

    Yes because the ends justify the means, the tenant is wrong for sure but the casual shrugging off abuse of authority is alarming.


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    #35
    Pro Hoc Vice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,087 ✭✭✭Pro Hoc Vice


    Larry Wildman wrote: »
    The issue here is not a Garda trying to resolve a problem...it's the degenerate and deliquent tenant who won't pay his rent.

    Perhaps if the Gardai intervened in situtations like this a little more, there would be less bad debts.

    There is a complete legal system with serious possible outcomes for people who do not pay what's due. It's is not criminal and the valuable time of AGS should not be used to help business men who could not be bothered to have proper credit control in place.


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    #36
    The_Morrigan
    Registered Users Posts: 9,368 ✭✭✭The_Morrigan


    Larry Wildman wrote: »
    The issue here is not a Garda trying to resolve a problem...it's the degenerate and deliquent tenant who won't pay his rent.

    Perhaps if the Gardai intervened in situtations like this a little more, there would be less bad debts.

    The issue here is whatever is in the OP...as for the Gardai intervening in situations like this....the Victorians tried this with Debtors prisons and it didn't really end well for anyone.
    Try staying on topic and avoid insulting the tenant.


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    #37
    piperh
    Registered Users Posts: 989 ✭✭✭piperh


    Larry Wildman wrote: »
    The issue here is not a Garda trying to resolve a problem...it's the degenerate and deliquent tenant who won't pay his rent.

    Perhaps if the Gardai intervened in situtations like this a little more, there would be less bad debts.

    Wow!! Just in case you've misread my previous posts it's not a case of won't but can't at the moment. I have never said they don't accept responsibility for their debt.


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    #38
    dar100
    Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭dar100


    Tell the LL to keep the deposit.

    Report the Garda, and pursue him the way he had pursued you


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    #39
    Zamboni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    Pro Hoc Vice wrote: »
    It is exactly the attitude in bold that has lead to the serious erosion of the perception of AGS, it's the sure don't piss them off they have the power that has led to serious breaches of people's rights in the past number of years.

    The person can both accept his debt and stand up to bullies it's not an either or situation.

    It's easy to preach from a high horse when you are not the young person in this situation who would have to live with the consequences.


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    #40
    the_syco
    Registered Users Posts: 37,301 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Zamboni wrote: »
    It's easy to preach from a high horse when you are not the young person in this situation who would have to live with the consequences.
    Not much of a high horse; more like an alternative view.

    You say for the person to pay the debt off as soon as possible, but the OP has said a number of times that they cannot do that at this time. Pro Hoc Vice has said that paying the debt and making a complaint is not an XOR situation, and thus the young person may make a plan to pay of the debt, but at the same time report the Gardai.


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