Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

dr.bollocko

Kaizersoze81 wrote: »

+1

Absolutely shocking midfield. How anyone can defend Young, Clevery or Valencia anymore is beyond me. How they're still at the club beggars belief.

I was really hoping LVG would firesale off a load of these sub-par players. Would be great to never see them wearing a Utd. jersey again.

Neeson

Fair play Cattermole. MOTM. Good hard performance as usual compared to the weakness and lack of desire in United.

Neeson

dr.bollocko wrote: »

I was really hoping LVG would firesale off a load of these sub-par players. Would be great to never see them wearing a Utd. jersey again.

Hasn't he more or less told Welbeck to clear off out of the road?

Vic Vinegar

Neeson wrote: »

Fair play Cattermole.

If you like him so much, why don't you ask him out?

Lord TSC

The absolutely lack of desire or passion in the team is a killer. Rooney just doesn't look bothered. Cleverly and Fletcher are woeful. Young and Valencia are beyond that.

Welbeck looked passionate and looks to be going, and Januzaj wanted to try but had no support.

Only good point was Jones looked good at CB and continues to impress.

1 point in 6 from those two games is unbelievable though.

MisterAnarchy

Kaizersoze81 wrote: »

+1

Absolutely shocking midfield. How anyone can defend Young, Clevery or Valencia anymore is beyond me. How they're still at the club beggars belief.

It beggars belief that Young and Valencia are still getting game time .
They were abysmal last season yet Moyes persisted with constantly playing them .
Van Gaal is also picking them ,its bizarre.

FutureGuy

It's going to be a rip roaring week on the transfer market.

A point!!! Yay!

FortuneChip

Jones, Blackett & Welbeck. Thanks for the effort. A rare thing today.

dr.bollocko

Neeson wrote: »

Hasn't he more or less told Welbeck to clear off out of the road?

I can see the point in removing him if he's never going to be a first choice but he's far from our worst.

Neeson

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

If you like him so much, why don't you ask him out?

He played very well today. Surely you admire the quality of some footballer somewhere? Wouldn't it be great if we could ask them out!

ician

well that was hopeless.

Deiseboy01

Five points less than I thought we'd have at this point and we're lucky it not six. That was dire.

Van.Bosch

No worse than under Moyes.

Headshot

I ****ing hate Young. I wish i could strangle him

TheTownie

Remember when Utd used to create chances in matches... those were good times.

Copper_pipe

Worst performance I can recall.

titan18

Hope Di Maria wasn't watching that.

FutureGuy

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

It beggars belief that Young and Valencia are still getting game time .
They were abysmal last season yet Moyes persisted with constantly playing them .
Van Gaal is also picking them ,its bizarre.

Rojo and Raf would be ideal.

Very impressed with Blackett. Cool as a cucumber. Reminds me of a young Rio. I think he could be a very useful player this year.

How Soon Is Now

Uhhh 1 point from first two games is awful return.

Already 5 points off the top teams.

Mantis Toboggan

Things are going to get worse before they get better.

Aubrey loves Joe

39 points from safety. A great day

2moreMinutes

I wonder what page of the new philosophy booklet is the section 'playing like you give a damn' detailed. Hope it doesn't take them 3 months to get to it.

MagicIRL

TC23 can't be relied on to do anything other than serve the tea, and even then he'll only give it to the lads sitting beside him.

Will I Amnt

If ever a game showed the need for a player like Di Maria then that was it.
Get down the wing, cut it back to the edge of the box, rinse and repeat.

I don't ever want to see Fletcher or Cleverley starting another game for United.

Mr.Prodston

Moyes didn't die for this

Mantis Toboggan

Van Gaal seriously needs to sign a world class Centre midfielder, if Nigel de Jong is signed I'll puke into my coffee.

Vic Vinegar

Neeson wrote: »

He played very well today. Surely you admire the quality of some footballer somewhere? Wouldn't it be great if we could ask them out!

Nah!

Gringo180

65 million sterling is been quoted as agreed for Di Maria, pure panic buying and paying 20 million too much for him.

Liam O

Van.Bosch wrote: »

No worse than under Moyes.

Actually a lot worse than under Moyes.

Young is a jokeshop player, as is Valencia. I was somewhar fooled over summer into thinking they were competent for now but they are both still terrible. Everyone looks clueless and like they don't care. I would be happy to sell anyone who played except De Gea.

And just like last season WHERE THE FÙCK IS KAGAWA!!!!

Headshot

Rooney was dire again today. The amount of miss placed passes from him is getting ridiculous at this stage

How Soon Is Now

At least di Maria looks a done deal now hoping that will boast the team and hopefully there be at least a cm signed.

Just hoping smallings injury is not a bad one.

billyhead

That was a dreadful performance. Its the worse United side I have seen since I started supporting them 22 years ago. I don't think signing Di Maria is going to change much. LVG has a massive job on his hands now. We need to offload Cleverly, Young, Valencia, Hernandez, Kagawa will be surplus to requirements and bring in a top class midfielder and I don't think De Jong or Blind is the answer. Vidal or Strootman are the only 2 players I would do my utmost in getting, or even Khedira. Jones had a very good game though which is positive.

adox

Any thoughts on the alleged fee agreed for Di Maria?
I knew we would be paying over the odds for him but £64 million?
If that's true I'm a little bit shocked.

2moreMinutes

Headshot wrote: »

I ****ing hate Young. I wish i could strangle him

He played reasonably well in a few friendlies though so the corner has been turned....

redbaron_99

In fairness we have a fair few injuries, but cleverley is championship level, fletcher isn't able anymore, Valencia was Wigan level, young is villa level. They should not be even considered as squad players. They cannot "Do a job" for us. Fergie left the squad in bad shape.

Cannot wait for rafeal, shaw, carrick, Herrera and Di Maria to get into the team.

Adamocovic

I think I'm going to take a break from the thread for a while, expecting a lot of people to solely blame Cleverley for a team performance that was slow and uncreative.

No urgency and the players seemed to look as if they were unsure of what they were doing. Not fond of this standing off and allowing the team to play in their half, and this slow build up.

Valencia and Young look lost as wing backs, Welbeck offered a better performance and Jones was ok. Other than that no one even stood out and took control of the game.

Set pieces were shocking today. Corners were very poor.

Good luck lads, I'll find myself back when there is some good news.....think a pint is in order.

Liam O

Thos is what happens when you become a team that looks for a quick fix when it's not working out I guess. But sure last year was all Moyes' fault...

Will I Amnt

adox wrote: »

Any thoughts on the alleged fee agreed for Di Maria?
I knew we would be paying over the odds for him but £64 million?
If that's true I'm a little bit shocked.

It is too much but it's not that crazy a fee really. He is world class and in today's market you pay for that.

billyhead

redbaron_99 wrote: »

In fairness we have a fair few injuries, but cleverley is championship level, fletcher isn't able anymore, Valencia was Wigan level, young is villa level. They should not be even considered as squad players. They cannot "Do a job" for us. Fergie left the squad in bad shape.

Cannot wait for rafeal, shaw, carrick, Herrera and Di Maria to get into the team.

I am also looking forward to see what Rojo can bring to the defence. He should be available next week.

Mantis Toboggan

Fergie was some man to get the that side to win the league!

Smithwicks Man

Buddy Holly wrote: »

Van Gaal seriously needs to sign a world class Centre midfielder, if Nigel de Jong is signed I'll puke into my coffee.

I rate De Jong. He had a great season last year in a team struggling badly and he is definitely worth the quoted £10m-£12m, but he's not the answer to United's midfield problems.

Professional Griefer

We'll never hear the end of getting Di Maria...if we do that is. plspls

dr.bollocko

If there's one positive to come from this it might result in a bit more urgency in the transfer market.

Son Of A Vidic

adox wrote: »

Any thoughts on the alleged fee agreed for Di Maria?
I knew we would be paying over the odds for him but £64 million?
If that's true I'm a little bit shocked.

If we're paying that much for him and there's nobody else coming in, that would be ridiculous.

Next 4 league matches for yous are Burnley, QPR, Leicester and West Ham. 4 games to set up the season before the following 4, Everton, West Brom, Chelsea, City.

Nalz

Learn from this Mr philosophy Van Gaal

New signings or not

NEVER EVER play Tom Cleverley again

Ever.

DARK-KNIGHT

Buddy Holly wrote: »

Fergie was some man to get the that side to win the league!

Rep made the difference. Luck and top 4 being **** that year helped also

DM_7

Liam O wrote: »

Thos is what happens when you become a team that looks for a quick fix when it's not working out I guess. But sure last year was all Moyes' fault...

Moyes ****ed up his chance Liam O

Let it go

Smithwicks Man

Buddy Holly wrote: »

Fergie was some man to get the that side to win the league!

He also deserves criticism for leaving the team in such bad shape for the future.

redbaron_99

billyhead wrote: »

I am also looking forward to see what Rojo can bring to the defence. He should be available next week.

Forgot about him. Sorry, my brain is numb after watching that performance.

Watched a fair few of the PL teams over the last 8 days and most would have put united team to the sword. Chelsea, City or Everton would have crucified us.

Need to get things sorted very soon.