Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

Maximus Alexander

brinty wrote: »

WHATS
HAPPENINGGGGGGGGGGGG

This:

brinty

irishfeen wrote: »

In work fcuk sake what's happening??

+1
ON LUNCH
FURIOUSLY CHECKING HERE, TWITTER, BBC SPORT AND THE CLUB WEBSITE

J. Marston

irishfeen wrote: »

In work fcuk sake what's happening??

He failed his medical.

*Runs away*

Spazdarn

Billy86 wrote: »

Problem there is that the midfield would get torn to shreds on counters, or possibly in general by hardworking, compact, disciplined units, even with less talent. Could possibly work when Carrick is back if you put him in Herrera's place, and Herrera in Januzaj's though. Or if we get someone like De Jong/Vidal in the next few days and do likewise.

I know it's a very top heavy attack, but I don't know why you think Michael Carricks inclusion is going to matter. He's been bypassed in midfield the last few years, so having him in there over a Herrera who's mobile and seems to like to put his foot in, doesn't make sense to me.

EDIT: Apologies, didn't see it was the swap for Januzaj, though I think he works hard enough for the team. Ideally you'd need Herrera, Vidal and Di Maria in that three... but that's me daydreaming

mufc1993

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Raf-jones-Evans-shaw

Herrera-carrick-Di Maria

Mata

Rooney-rvp

Thought about that line up alright, but it seems quite narrow. Oh well guess we'll just have to see what happens in any case!

magnumbud

sky just showed him arriving at carrington again but this time sometime earlier today i'm guessing thats the "its happening" comment

Backstreet Moyes

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De Gea

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----Rafael

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Jones

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Evans

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Shaw

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Carrick

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Herrera----Mata----Di Maria

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Rooney

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RVP

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Maximus Alexander

We are not signing Di Maria.

case885

Nuts102 wrote: »

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De Gea

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----Rafael

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Jones

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Evans

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Shaw

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Carrick

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Herrera----Mata----Di Maria

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Rooney

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RVP

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Strootman in for carrick and it would be a great team, shame he wasnt fit for the world cup, gundogan would be ideal too if he was fit.

brinty

Lads hate to rain on all these parades and fantasy line ups but i think we're all kidding ourselves with Rafael in a 442/433/4231 formation
LvG never said he was injured (open to correction here) and he hasn't been involved in the first 2 games of the season.
I think he could be in the departure lounge too..with Cleverly, Anderson, Zaha, Kagawa and Welbeck

brinty

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

We are not signing Di Maria.

Stop taking FutureGuy's line

get your own

Rayne Wooney

Needs to be posted again

Maximus Alexander

brinty wrote: »

Stop taking FutureGuy's line

get your own

Crap, wrong account.

Spazdarn

brinty wrote: »

Lads hate to rain on all these parades and fantasy line ups but i think we're all kidding ourselves with Rafael in a 442/433/4231 formation
LvG never said he was injured (open to correction here) and he hasn't been involved in the first 2 games of the season.
I think he could be in the departure lounge too..with Cleverly, Anderson, Zaha, Kagawa and Welbeck

He's definitely not good enough but we just don't have the money/players to replace him so that'll be January or next summer I reckon

Rayne Wooney

Lol

magnumbud

ToiletFusion wrote: »

He's definitely not good enough but we just don't have the money/players to replace him so that'll be January or next summer I reckon

couldnt disagree more. think he was one of our best players 2 seasons ago and injuries simply halted his progress last season

Mitch Connor

If we were to sign Vidal as well (or sub De Jong in to this formation, maybe) this is how I would go.

http://bit.ly/1vine5H

brinty

magnumbud wrote: »

couldnt disagree more. think he was one of our best players 2 seasons ago and injuries simply halted his progress last season

I'll refer you to Nani....

Spazdarn

magnumbud wrote: »

couldnt disagree more. think he was one of our best players 2 seasons ago and injuries simply halted his progress last season

We have a lot of players living off past glories. Nani had one good season in 7 and it's still being used as a defence for his inconsistency. Rafael was good that season I'll admit, but he's been very poor since, and he's extremely injury prone so can't be relied on.

You see his progress being interrupted, I think it's stopped completely.

Cookiemunster

brinty wrote: »

Lads hate to rain on all these parades and fantasy line ups but i think we're all kidding ourselves with Rafael in a 442/433/4231 formation
LvG never said he was injured (open to correction here) and he hasn't been involved in the first 2 games of the season.
I think he could be in the departure lounge too..with Cleverly, Anderson, Zaha, Kagawa and Welbeck

He was sent home from the US tour injured. LVG said last week that he's training again.

Spazdarn

Mitch Connor wrote: »

If we were to sign Vidal as well (or sub De Jong in to this formation, maybe) this is how I would go.

http://bit.ly/1vine5H

Definitely wouldn't have Smalling there ahead of Jones, lesser of two evils and all that.

Mikeyt086

Mitch Connor wrote: »

If we were to sign Vidal as well (or sub De Jong in to this formation, maybe) this is how I would go.

http://bit.ly/1vine5H

I agree. Rooney even specifically said to LVG that he can play as a 9, 10, or on either wing.

We won't be getting the absolute best out of Rooney but he can still be effective and we'll get the best of the other 3 as well.

tupac_healy

Anyone know if he's gone for a medical or what's the latest at this stage???

Mitch Connor

tupac_healy wrote: »

Anyone know if he's gone for a medical or what's the latest at this stage???

Did part of it, at least, last night.

May be finishing it today, doing promo shots etc at the moment.

Maximus Alexander

Mitch Connor wrote: »

If we were to sign Vidal as well (or sub De Jong in to this formation, maybe) this is how I would go.

http://bit.ly/1vine5H

FYP

tupac_healy

Mitch Connor wrote: »

If we were to sign Vidal as well (or sub De Jong in to this formation, maybe) this is how I would go.

http://bit.ly/1vine5H

I'd swap Rooney and Mata (Mata and Di Maria could interchange too) and Rojo pushing Smalling for a start at CB...

Still all and all that's an exciting line up!

MagicIRL

Sky running that ADM has arrived at Carrington.

Mitch Connor

ToiletFusion wrote: »

Definitely wouldn't have Smalling there ahead of Jones, lesser of two evils and all that.

Fair enough, horses for courses in a way.

My main point was regarding the midfield and forward 3, with specifically not mirroring Di Maria's wide position with Rooneys more central one.

Herrera popped up on the right a fair bit in his time for Athletic so the right side width could come from, depending on passage of play, Rooney, Herrera, Mata or Rafael.

Lord TSC

Would agree on Jones in for Smalling; Jones has been doing well at CB.

I also feel that with the No 5, Rojo should be in somewhere, but it's the problem with 2 center backs when we have 5 available. Honestly, for all people said about getting in more center backs, I reckon we could see one move in the not to distant future on the search for regular first team football.

v3ttel

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

I think/hope that the Di Maria signing, coupled with another CM would mean we change to a 4-3-3 for the majority of games.

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De Gea

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Rafael----Jones

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Rojo----Shaw

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Carrick

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Someone

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Herrera

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Januzaj

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Di Maria

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Rooney/RVP

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That's a really good team imo.

With the squad as in (assuming we get Di Maria and no one else), I'd go:

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De Gea

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Rafael----Jones

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Rojo----Shaw

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Rooney

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Herrera

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Januzaj

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Mata

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Di Maria

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RVP

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It could be argued that the CM is too open. Herrera was brought to the club as a CM in any case. The only player potentially out of position is Rooney. Both Rooney & Herrera have outstanding workrates, and are capable of doing the defensive work.

Obviously Vidal would be ideal, but I can't see the club selling out the money for him, after paying £59.7 for Di Maria.

magnumbud

ToiletFusion wrote: »

We have a lot of players living off past glories. Nani had one good season in 7 and it's still being used as a defence for his inconsistency. Rafael was good that season I'll admit, but he's been very poor since, and he's extremely injury prone so can't be relied on.

You see his progress being interrupted, I think it's stopped completely.

think hes been fairly solid when fit up until last season and 1 season when the rest of the team were terrible and he missed half the season due to injury should not be case to write him off. i'll give you he may have be injury prone but i disagree that he is not good enough. i'd give him 1 more year at least and IMO i think comparisons to nani, anderson or anyone else is unjustified.

Bleating Lamb

tupac_healy wrote: »

Anyone know if he's gone for a medical or what's the latest at this stage???

Seems Di Maria was a huge fan of Robbo and happened to bump into him at Carrington,word is the two boyos are gone on the lash in a local village to 'celebrate' him signing!;)

Rayne Wooney

Real Madrid's new kit has a fecking dragon on it, can't wait for Adidas

redbaron_99

brinty wrote: »

Lads hate to rain on all these parades and fantasy line ups but i think we're all kidding ourselves with Rafael in a 442/433/4231 formation
LvG never said he was injured (open to correction here) and he hasn't been involved in the first 2 games of the season.
I think he could be in the departure lounge too..with Cleverly, Anderson, Zaha, Kagawa and Welbeck

LVG wants his wing backs to be super fit, to be able to run the lines for 90 minutes. Rafeal is probably not injured, but the manager doesnt feel he is fit enough yet. The same was said about Shaw in pre-season and was dropped and told to improve his fitness.

It remains to be seen if Rafeal can get his fitness to the required standard.

IMO we should have went all out to get Coleman. Absolutely made for the wing back role. And he has a lovely haircut.

redbaron_99

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Real Madrid's new kit has a fecking dragon on it, can't wait for Adidas

We should have a dragon and a devil fighting on ours.

NUTZZ

United's Wikipedia page is optimistic anyway!

Giggsy11

Mitch Connor wrote: »

If we were to sign Vidal as well (or sub De Jong in to this formation, maybe) this is how I would go.

http://bit.ly/1vine5H

Wouldn't mind 4-2-2-2 like Brazil of old played and City plays now with Silva and Navas and 2 strikers.

Also playing Diamond wouldn't be a bad idea.

Can someone tell what happened to the Anderson \ fiorentina thing.
He's like a kling-on stuck to the bowl of the jacks after a night of Guinness

Giggsy11

Apparently ManUtd started selling Di Maria #7. From twitter so not sure how true it is.




Edit: FAKE

redbaron_99

NUTZZ wrote: »

United's Wikipedia page is optimistic anyway!

Never noticed that the 15 was available.

markcahill1985

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Can someone tell what happened to the Anderson \ fiorentina thing.
He's like a kling-on stuck to the bowl of the jacks after a night of Guinness

Went out there, played 3/4 half games, got injured/they realised he was ****e and sent him right back

xtal191

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Apparently ManUtd started selling Di Maria #7. From twitter so not sure how true it is.

That doesn't look like the megastore

Giggsy11

xtal191 wrote: »

That doesn't look like the megastore

Edited it but was bit late.

Yer Aul One

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

.................DDG...........
.....Jones...Evans....Rojo...
..........Herrera...Carrick.........
Di Maria.......Mata...........Shaw
............Rooney....RVP............

Think we could see this for a while when everyone is fit

This looks great to me. Carrick will be better this season. We can't judge anyone on last year. They all brought each other down.

Media were calling Carrick the most underrated English footballer of all time a couple of years ago.

MagicIRL

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Never noticed that the 15 was available.

Nemanja... *sob* woah-o... Nemanja..

twam2008

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Edited it but was bit late.

Couldn't have been, they've run out of R's.

RayCun

I'd go with

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De Gea

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Rafael---Evans----Rojo

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Shaw

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Herrera

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Jones

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Rooney

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Mata

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Di Maria----

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RVP

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if we're shoehorning players in.

But I'll happily leave it up to LVG

magnumbud

twam2008 wrote: »

Couldn't have been, they've run out of R's.

think its just the place thats across in the car park that does them on around matches thats sold out and not the megastore itself. surely it does take that long to get them for united

intellectual dosser

I take it I'm in the minority in thinking that Rafael isn't worth a Manchester United first 11 spot?

paulbok

Lord TSC wrote: »

Would agree on Jones in for Smalling; Jones has been doing well at CB.

I also feel that with the No 5, Rojo should be in somewhere, but it's the problem with 2 center backs when we have 5 available. Honestly, for all people said about getting in more center backs, I reckon we could see one move in the not to distant future on the search for regular first team football.

Dunno, at the rate they get injured, how often would they all be fit at the same time?