Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

TheTownie

Mitch Connor wrote: »

i do wonder if getting Blind and Herrera into midfield and getting two capable attacking full backs in Rafael and Shaw (along with Di Maria, obviously) will get the ball itself moving into the final third quicker, so negate the problem of RVP and Rooney up top. Is the build up being slow and ponderous the issue rather than their lack of pace - would Rooney being as quick as Ronaldo really have improved the performances that much?

In terms of today, getting moves started was as big a problem as anything. The CBs struggled due to a combination of the terrible midfield in front of them and their own lack of ability on the ball.

Personally I'd rather see players in front of the full backs, i.e a typical 4-3-3. While Rafael and Shaw are good, in a 4-3-1-2, teams will double up on them when they attack and they won't be able to do much to counteract that on their own.

I think to get the best out of Di Maria, Utd need to play him out wide left. Put Mata the most advanced of a midfield three and one of Rooney/RVP up top.

EDIT: If Utd get the ball into the final third quicker, they need to do so via the wings. With Mata/Rooney/RVP on the pitch they would be feeding it through the middle which makes it easier for opposition to snuff out attacks.

magnumbud

adox wrote: »

Haven't heard anything but it looked like a tweak of the hamstring rather than anything more serious. Couple of weeks would be my uneducated guess.

Maybe it wouldn't be the worst thing to have him out of the team for a game or two to look at alternatives.

Van gaal said it was just cramp and didn't want to push it Sam as do maria

Liam McPoyle

Copper_pipe wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ManUtdUpdates_/status/505783173100617728

Just pay it!

That reads like it was written by Evil Kagawa

"5 millions of pounds"

:pac:

J. Marston

Daniel Taylor says we might not be done yet...

Manchester United are still in the market for a centre-half and another midfielder, even with Daley Blind coming in from Ajax.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/aug/30/manchester-city-chelsea-deadline-day

Lord TSC

Jaysus, no stopping Woodward now. He's got a bit addicted to the whole buying...

Will I Amnt

J. Marston wrote: »

Daniel Taylor says we might not be done yet...

Sure just buy a whole new defence while they're at it.

MagicMarker

So we can all make guesses as to which CM we're going for. What about a CB? An established name? Maybe a younger guy with potential? The dutch connection thinks Virgil van Dijk could be on the radar.

Headshot

J. Marston wrote: »

Daniel Taylor says we might not be done yet...

If they are in for a CB they sure are keeping to quiet. We've barely been linked with any CB's besides the Benatia

Will I Amnt

MagicMarker wrote: »

So we can all make guesses as to which CM we're going for. What about a CB? An established name? Maybe a younger guy with potential? The dutch connection thinks Virgil van Dijk could be on the radar.

He has looked great for Celtic but we know how that can turn out when they make the move South.

Lord TSC

MagicMarker wrote: »

So we can all make guesses as to which CM we're going for. What about a CB? An established name? Maybe a younger guy with potential? The dutch connection thinks Virgil van Dijk could be on the radar.

Don't need another young guy. Need an older, experienced head.

Twitter talk that Real Madrid are sniffing round Hernandez.

Hococop

Lord TSC wrote: »

Don't need another young guy. Need an older, experienced head.

Twitter talk that Real Madrid are sniffing round Hernandez.

Wow that's great for him but is it worth it? He might only be an impact sub again

J. Marston

Lord TSC wrote: »

Don't need another young guy. Need an older, experienced head.

Twitter talk that Real Madrid are sniffing round Hernandez.

They can have him.

£59 million seems like a fair price.

Julez

Business Cat wrote: »

That reads like it was written by Evil Kagawa

"5 millions of pounds"

:pac:

Or Dr. Evil.

Lord TSC

DiMarzio seems to be the one talking about Hernadez to Real. I can't remember is he super reliable or only a step above Indykilla; think it's the former....

J. Marston

https://vine.co/v/OBOO6Iv2IVr

Clearly leaving.

Not.

MagicMarker

J. Marston wrote: »

https://vine.co/v/OBOO6Iv2IVr

Clearly leaving.

Not.

Well.. that's a whole lotta nothin'.

shadowcomplex

We should have done a straight swap with real with Hernandez and Alonso

redbaron_99

shadowcomplex wrote: »

We should have done a straight swap with real with Hernandez and Alonso

I'd prefer Varane.

Schwiiing

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I'd prefer Varane.

You think Real would take a straight swap of Chico for Varane?

Spazdarn

Is it safe to assume both Rojo and Blind will be available for next week?

redbaron_99

Schwiiing wrote: »

You think Real would take a straight swap of Chico for Varane?

No. Just saying I would prefer varane

Schwiiing

Lord TSC wrote: »

Jaysus, no stopping Woodward now. He's got a bit addicted to the whole buying...

...now that he's worked out how to do it. :pac:

redbaron_99

ToiletFusion wrote: »

Is it safe to assume both Rojo and Blind will be available for next week?

International break next week.
Rojo deal may be off, so there's a major doubt about him.

duffman13

ToiletFusion wrote: »

Is it safe to assume both Rojo and Blind will be available for next week?

Yeah with their international teams. Ah no should be no issues with Blind but Rojo is another story with his visa and potential 3rd party ownership issues.

DM_7

redbaron_99 wrote: »

No. Just saying I would prefer varane

I would prefer Ronaldo so

Kroos as a backup

The_Kew_Tour

Its great we have 2 weeks off from watching this crap

redbaron_99

DM-ICE wrote: »

I would prefer Ronaldo so

Kroos as a backup

Ok, ok. Was just saying. Still isn't getting into the first team though, is he?

I wonder is there some doubt over him. Surely he should be able to get ahead of Pepe in the starting eleven.

MagicMarker

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Rojo deal may be off, so there's a major doubt about him.

There is?

Copper_pipe

MagicMarker wrote: »

There is?

There has been speculation that Rojo has run in to problems over third party ownership – he was part owned by an agency when playing in Portugal – or that he hadn't played enough competitive games for his country to qualify for a work permit.
However it is understood that the actual issue is that Rojo is waiting to see if he will be given a UK visa as embassy officials look in to the details of an altercation with a neighbour in Argentina in 2010 that still lies on his file in his home country.
The 24-year-old was never prosecuted over the incident but it is still theoretically being investigated after the case was reopened in May of this year.
Rojo does not have a criminal record but it is likely that Embassy officials are checking the exact details of the situation before processing the visa.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2738398/Rojo-sweats-UK-visa-delay-emerges-16m-United-buy-questioned-embassy-altercation-neighbour.html#ixzz3BuLYNEay
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redbaron_99

MagicMarker wrote: »

There is?

Still hasn't got the work permit. Seems it might have something to do with an outstanding case against him in Argentina. He hit a neighbour with a bottle.

kryogen

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Still hasn't got the work permit. Seems it might have something to do with an outstanding case against him in Argentina. He hit a neighbour with a bottle.

Van Gaal said he will b available for the QPR game.

MagicMarker

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2738398/Rojo-sweats-UK-visa-delay-emerges-16m-United-buy-questioned-embassy-altercation-neighbour.html#ixzz3BuLYNEay
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Ah, the daily mail. So there isn't.

advertsfox

kryogen wrote: »

Van Gaal said he will b available for the QPR game.

Yup, hope so!

http://thepeoplesperson.com/2014/08/30/van-gaal-confident-rojo-will-make-manchester-united-debut-qpr-52128/

DM_7

MagicMarker wrote: »

Ah, the daily mail. So there isn't.

Hang on,

We live in a weird world where Di Maria plays for Manchester United

Where Daily Mail are becoming a good source for United news. Like Blind last night.

They are only saying why there is a delay, not that it will cause an actual problem.

redbaron_99

I take it the work permit has to be approved before deadline?

thelad95

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I take it the work permit has to be approved before deadline?

Doubt it to be honest.

DM_7

redbaron_99 wrote: »

I take it the work permit has to be approved before deadline?

No I don't think so, players have moved at the last minute with no time to get a work permit.

redbaron_99

DM-ICE wrote: »

No I don't think so, players have moved at the last minute with no time to get a work permit.

Cheers. It's probably just red tape. You know what public sector workers are like.

How Soon Is Now

The whole Vidal thing looks like a player thanking the fans for chearing him no?

Kylo Ren

Just go around to every club in Europe and South America.

DM_7

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29000089

BBC reporting Rojo hold up now. FA have already approved his transfer, no issue with ownership.

TheTownie

MagicMarker wrote: »

Ah, the daily mail. So there isn't.

BBC reporting it too.

magnumbud

shadowcomplex wrote: »

We should have done a straight swap with real with Hernandez and Alonso

I'm fairly sure he wouldn't sign for us he seems like one of the few loyal players left in the game and out of respect for pool he would likely turn us down.

shadowcomplex

shadowcomplex wrote: »

We should have done a straight swap with real with Hernandez and Alonso

Couldn't imagine Alonso agreeing to that.

MagicMarker

I can't bloomin' wait for the QPR game now, hopefully most of these injuries will be sorted by then...

De Gea
Rafael - Jones - Rojo - Shaw
---- Herrera - Blind ----
Januzaj - Mata - DiMaria
V.Persie --- Rooney

Rafa and Adnan on the right, Shaw and Di Maria on the right...

Bleating Lamb

One word answer will suffice, apart from Blind news this am ...any move on Carvalho,Vidal etc today???

Paul Tergat

MagicMarker wrote: »

Rafa and Adnan on the right, Shaw and Di Maria on the right...

Who needs a left side? All down the right!!!

LostBoy101

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

One word answer will suffice, apart from Blind news this am ...any move on Carvalho,Vidal etc today???

Doubt it. I reckon Blind will be our last signing before the window shuts.

yabadabado

MagicMarker wrote: »

I can't bloomin' wait for the QPR game now, hopefully most of these injuries will be sorted by then...

De Gea
Rafael - Jones - Rojo - Shaw
---- Herrera - Blind ----
Januzaj - Mata - DiMaria
V.Persie --- Rooney

Rafa and Adnan on the right, Shaw and Di Maria on the right...

Are we getting a +1 handicap?

magnumbud

MagicMarker wrote: »

I can't bloomin' wait for the QPR game now, hopefully most of these injuries will be sorted by then...

De Gea
Rafael - Jones - Rojo - Shaw
---- Herrera - Blind ----
Januzaj - Mata - DiMaria
V.Persie --- Rooney

Rafa and Adnan on the right, Shaw and Di Maria on the right...

That would give us a great chance of winning 12 v 11 is a fantastic tactic