Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

Adamcp898 · 31-08-2014 12:00pm

kryogen wrote: »

You certainly aren't, you do seem to having a bit of a hissy fit for whatever reason though

There is a difference in someone saying it wouldn't be the "worst" thing that could happen and saying it wouldn't be a "bad" thing.

Acknowledging the possible relief it would give on the team selection is hardly worthy of being referred to as braindead either.

Nobody wants to see the team missing players through injury, that is pretty obvious.

Tbf, to say you wouldn't find anyone that would think it wouldn't be a bad thing is a bit ott, he's still arguably our best player after all.

Would be more accurate to say that there are worse things that could happen.

Larry Wildman · 31-08-2014 12:10pm

Easiest opening stretch of games in a long time and we've two point from a possible nine.

At what point should we start questioning the manager?

Give him time by all means but I'm starting to worry that my worst fear is actually spot on - That this guy is a has-been and a spoofer who is living off a Champions League victory 20 years ago.

The formation clearly isn't working so why hasn't he tweaked it.

He's reminiscent of Richard Nixon...if two wrongs don't make a right, try three.

LostBoy101 · 31-08-2014 12:14pm

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Easiest opening stretch of games in a long time and we've two point from a possible nine.

At what point should we start questioning the manager?

Give him time by all means but I'm starting to worry that my worst fear is actually spot on - That this guy is a has-been and a spoofer who is living off a Champions League victory 20 years ago.

The formation clearly isn't working so why hasn't he tweaked it.

He's reminiscent of Richard Nixon...if two wrongs don't make a right, try three.

Better than Moyes who has no champions league or title to his name.

FutureGuy · 31-08-2014 12:16pm

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Easiest opening stretch of games in a long time and we've two point from a possible nine.

At what point should we start questioning the manager?

Give him time by all means but I'm starting to worry that my worst fear is actually spot on - That this guy is a has-been and a spoofer who is living off a Champions League victory 20 years ago.

The formation clearly isn't working so why hasn't he tweaked it.

He's reminiscent of Richard Nixon...if two wrongs don't make a right, try three.

It's a sad day when I can recognise the poster by the sheer level of negativity being posted on a regular basis. 3 games in. When should we question the manager.

That's an absolutely stupid post.

DARK-KNIGHT · 31-08-2014 12:16pm

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Easiest opening stretch of games in a long time and we've two point from a possible nine.

At what point should we start questioning the manager?

Give him time by all means but I'm starting to worry that my worst fear is actually spot on - That this guy is a has-been and a spoofer who is living off a Champions League victory 20 years ago.

The formation clearly isn't working so why hasn't he tweaked it.

He's reminiscent of Richard Nixon...if two wrongs don't make a right, try three.

Yeah call for his resignation larry 😂

DARK-KNIGHT · 31-08-2014 12:20pm

Reading this morning and seeing manager being slated 3 games in is embarrassing tbh. This club needs a complete overhaul which is exactly what van Gaal is here to do. Give him time Rome wasn't built in a day

thelad95 · 31-08-2014 12:21pm

LostBoy101 wrote: »

Better than Moyes who has no champions league or title to his name.

Strange because Moyes had the three most difficult opening fixtures in the history of the EPL and managed a respectable (given the circumstances) 4 points out of 9.

LVG has had the easiest run of games against three teams who may very well make up the bottom 3 at the end of the season and 2 points out of 9 is actually flattering considering how we've played.

When does one wonder 'what the f*ck?'

SherlockWatson · 31-08-2014 12:22pm

I'm hoping Vidal isnt signed at this stage.

marvsins · 31-08-2014 12:22pm

I'm watching the PSV game atm. We missed a trick not signing Depay. Very nice player. Maybe him and Strootman in January to freshen things up.

magnumbud · 31-08-2014 12:25pm

Zico wrote: »

If that's all he's got then he's in trouble.

60 mins before going off injured isn't great for a guy "hardened in the Argentinian league".

Vidal's knee would have lasted longer than that.:p

I mean he won't get scared off from it. If they had targeted Rooney like that he would have went off too. Also it was only do Maria's second game since the WC final so lasting 75 minutes is impressive

Your Airbag · 31-08-2014 12:38pm

The defense is our biggest weakness right now. Not from a leaking goals point of view but from playing out from the back.

Vidal aside we need to get a CB before the window shuts. An elder CB who isnt afraid to lead vocally. Our CBs look nervous at times and there isn't enough communication, they all look afraid to lead.

Vidic, Rio and Evra have gone. Thats three very vocal and strong characters gone. Our CBs played better with those three defenders because they were constantly being told what to do.

Right now nobody is taking control in defense, that coupled with a new system they are not used to and there is no communication, leader or control in there. They are all a bit meek atm.

They are nervy and it doesn't help those in front of them.

Larry Wildman · 31-08-2014 12:41pm

FutureGuy wrote: »

It's a sad day when I can recognise the poster by the sheer level of negativity being posted on a regular basis. 3 games in. When should we question the manager.

That's an absolutely stupid post.

When are you going to realise that the emperor has no clothes?

Your blind faith in this guy is embarrassing.

It's obvious based on the first FOUR games that he hasn't got a clue.

Like Trappatoni, his glory days are long behind him.

Larry Wildman · 31-08-2014 12:43pm

Larry Wildman wrote: »

When are you going to realise that the emperor has no clothes?

Your blind faith in this guy is embarrassing.

It's obvious based on the first FOUR games that he hasn't got a clue.

Like Trappatoni, his glory days are long behind him.

And no, I'm not "trolling" which I take to mean posting sensationalist nonsense which you don't actually believe just to elicit a reaction.

Shock horror, I actually think that Van Gaal is a spoofer who is taking us down a dangerous path.

Adamocovic · 31-08-2014 12:44pm

Your Airbag wrote: »

The defense is our biggest weakness right now. Not from a leaking goals point of view but from playing out from the back.

Vidal aside we need to get a CB before the window shuts. An elder CB who isnt afraid to lead vocally. Our CBs look nervous at times and there isn't enough communication, they all look afraid to lead.

Vidic, Rio and Evra have gone. Thats three very vocal and strong characters gone. Our CBs played better with those three defenders because they were constantly being told what to do.

Right now nobody is taking control in defense, that coupled with a new system they are not used to and there is no communication, leader or control in there. They are all a bit meek atm.

They are nervy and it doesn't help those in front of them.

So far from what I see Jones and Blackett have been quite good. Evans in his two games has looked shaky and I think his 3-4 poor back passes showed that. Also Young and Valencia still look a bit uncertain as WingBacks in my eyes.

Saying that don't forget we have Shaw, Rojo, Rafael and now (pending a medical) Blind to come into that back line. Surely that will improve it.

I wouldn't necessarily pin our poor build up play all on our defence though. It seems like the players are still not used to this formation and attacking while playing it. When in possession it's very back and forth until a chipped ball is headed away. Di Maria showed signs of improvement for us going forward though.

I still think once the players become used to this formation we will see a brilliant improvement on the ball.

Your Airbag · 31-08-2014 12:45pm

Larry Wildman wrote: »

When are you going to realise that the emperor has no clothes?

Your blind faith in this guy is embarrassing.

It's obvious based on the first FOUR games that he hasn't got a clue.

Like Trappatoni, his glory days are long behind him.

He got the dutch to the WC semi final and got knocked out on penalties a few weeks ago.

Will you give over with trying to be the threads panto villlan.

Adamocovic · 31-08-2014 12:45pm

Larry Wildman wrote: »

And no, I'm not "trolling" which I take to mean posting sensationalist nonsense which you don't actually believe just to elicit a reaction.

Shock horror, I actually think that Van Gaal is a spoofer who is taking us down a dangerous path.

What happened to reserving your judgement of him? :P

Ed The Equalizer · 31-08-2014 12:45pm

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Easiest opening stretch of games in a long time and we've two point from a possible nine.

At what point should we start questioning the manager?

Give him time by all means but I'm starting to worry that my worst fear is actually spot on - That this guy is a has-been and a spoofer who is living off a Champions League victory 20 years ago.

The formation clearly isn't working so why hasn't he tweaked it.

He's reminiscent of Richard Nixon...if two wrongs don't make a right, try three.

I can imagine what you would have been saying about Fergie in the early years

Larry Wildman · 31-08-2014 12:49pm

Your Airbag wrote: »

He got the dutch to the WC semi final and got knocked out on penalties a few weeks ago

They were finalists four years ago. It was a pretty poor World Cup. And getting to the semis isn't winning anything.

I'm serious - This guy's a bluffer and a chancer

dirtyden · 31-08-2014 12:51pm

Adamocovic wrote: »

So far from what I see Jones and Blackett have been quite good. Evans in his two games has looked shaky and I think his 3-4 poor back passes showed that. Also Young and Valencia still look a bit uncertain as WingBacks in my eyes.

Saying that don't forget we have Shaw, Rojo, Rafael and now (pending a medical) Blind to come into that back line. Surely that will improve it.

I wouldn't necessarily pin our poor build up play all on our defence though. It seems like the players are still not used to this formation and attacking while playing it. When in possession it's very back and forth until a chipped ball is headed away. Di Maria showed signs of improvement for us going forward though.

I still think once the players become used to this formation we will see a brilliant improvement on the ball.

I really like the look of Blackett. He is very raw, but his attitude is great. Looking at the game yesterday he seemed confident to come out with the ball and try to see a pass. He is decent enough defensively too. The back three does not suit Evans at all in my opinion. I don't think he is a good enough footballer for it. He is a good defender but not comfortable on the ball at all.

Peanut Butter Jelly · 31-08-2014 12:52pm

Larry Wildman wrote: »

Easiest opening stretch of games in a long time and we've two point from a possible nine.

At what point should we start questioning the manager?

Give him time by all means but I'm starting to worry that my worst fear is actually spot on - That this guy is a has-been and a spoofer who is living off a Champions League victory 20 years ago.

The formation clearly isn't working so why hasn't he tweaked it.

He's reminiscent of Richard Nixon...if two wrongs don't make a right, try three.

And another one in 2010. And 2 Uefa super cups. And a Europa league. And 7 league titles. And 3 league cups.

Yeah. Total spoofer.

redbaron_99 · 31-08-2014 12:52pm

Larry Wildman wrote: »

They were finalists four years ago. It was a pretty poor World Cup. And getting to the semis isn't winning anything.

I'm serious - This guy's a bluffer and a chancer

Why do you think this, larry? Explain the thought process behind your posts.

Paul Tergat · 31-08-2014 12:53pm

STOP RESPONDING!!!

K4t · 31-08-2014 12:53pm

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

If rumours of welbeck to spurs and chico to Madrid are true and now rvp I hope Lvg is in talks to sign a striker too 😯

If Welbeck is let go on loan or sold I'd be asking LVG to find a new club to manage. Would be utter stupidity.

If the rumours about RVP's injury are true then this is a perfect opportunity for some faith to be finally put in Welbeck and play him up top. He showed last season in thos egames around january that he can do the job and in several champions league games. He just needs to be given a chance. It seems every other player at the club is being given one, time for Welbeck to.

Your Airbag · 31-08-2014 12:54pm

Larry Wildman wrote: »

They were finalists four years ago. It was a pretty poor World Cup. And getting to the semis isn't winning anything.

I'm serious - This guy's a bluffer and a chancer

No he is not. Your just impatient and you will look foolish down the road saying these things.

LVG will make it work, he needs more than 3 games to do it. Our sqaud is full of poor players and lots of bad buys means we need a renovation. Thats what he is doing, it will take time.

Adamocovic · 31-08-2014 12:56pm

Well this will be a pleasant way to end the thread, another debate on VG's credentials :P

Larry Wildman · 31-08-2014 1:00pm

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Why do you think this, larry? Explain the thought process behind your posts.

Well for one, 5-3-2 clearly isn't working yet he's persisting with it.

I'd also question his recruitment policy. The wrong players signed, the wrong players not signed and £60m spunked on a show pony. Kroos and Fabregas passed up.

Insane inexplicable behaviour.

Lord TSC · 31-08-2014 1:01pm

Ah lads, cop the **** on. Seriously.

I've warned people so many times not to engage in such discussions and yet you keep doing it, and I've warned people that either its exactly the type of reaction a troll would be after, or it's bullying and harassing a user. Zero middle ground there. The responses on display achieve absolutely nothing but to disrupt the thread. The fact I continually have to issue yellows because people seem to think they can break the charter just because they don't like a user is astounding.

Larry - I don't know how often I have to ask you to calm down with the negative posting. As I have stated time and again, you are allowed to be critical and negative, but you are not allowed do so to the point of utter disruption. You've made your point about LVG; you do not need to drill it home over and over and over to the point of thread disruption. The fact you continue to post in this manner despite numerous mod warnings, public and private continues to lead me to believe you're on the windup.

Both sides here are causing serious problems. These are not going to continue into the new thread. Both sides, wake up.