Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

adox

billyhead wrote: »

Winger sold means space for a new winger. Is di Maria who is rojos best mate next. As Woody says watch this space

But we haven't sold a winger. We given him to another club as a present for a year. Free of charge.

FutureGuy

A versatile CB/LB signed and we let Nani go where we will play consistently for a season - exactly what I think he needs. He could come back an incredible player.

Nolars

Manchester United ‏@ManUtd 1m
#mufc has reached agreement with Sporting Lisbon to sign defender Marcos Rojo, subject to a medical and personal terms.

Watch as we wont pay him an extra 2k a week now

twam2008

tupac_healy wrote: »

The only reasoning I could come up with would be that there may have been a club interested in him, a lot of Juve talk at the time and him tied to a longer contract may have strengthened our postion when thrashing out a deal???

Other thatmb that HIGHLY UNLIKELY scenario, I can't for the life of me fathom a reason.....

That was it, there was talk of Juve being interested, he put in some great performances in pre season, signed a new contract and then went down hill again IMO.

beno619

Montroseee wrote: »

It's the same story with Anderson, how he ever got a new contract is actually worse than Nani.

Only has a year left, if he survives the window this is his last season at the club.

Giggsy11

Yeah he is fat..

http://instagram.com/p/r487jQwBrc/

Cypher_sounds

twam2008 wrote: »

How about is right footed International team mate who Swansea are after for £7m?

Fernandez? If he's gone to Swansea as reported it will be interesting to see how he adapts to the league. They are getting him for cheap but if we signed him i bet another couple of million would be added to his price.

adox

FutureGuy wrote: »

A versatile CB/LB signed and we let Nani go where we will play consistently for a season - exactly what I think he needs. He could come back an incredible player.

I would like to think that too but my feeling is we won't see Nani in a Utd shirt again.

Giggsy11

Manchester United ‏@ManUtd 4m

#mufc has reached agreement with Sporting Lisbon to sign defender Marcos Rojo, subject to a medical and personal terms.

MagicIRL

cdb wrote: »

Didn't see it myself but according to some poster on reddit Sky sports Jim White said Manchester United are battling it out for the signature of Cruzeiro's Lucas Silva Borges. 21 year old defensive midfielder. Obviously take it with a pinch of salt until confirmed but if it pans out its another player coming and under the radar

He broke this Rojo deal iirc or was very close to being the first to report it. I think it's anything he's posted about on Twitter has actually gone through.

twam2008

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Fernandez? If he's gone to Swansea as reported it will be interesting to see how he adapts to the league. They are getting him for cheap but if we signed him i bet another couple of million would be added to his price.

You can be sure of it.

Adamocovic

I expect Rafael to be selected this week, did VG not say he was fit last week? Maybe just didn't want to rush him back.

The_Kew_Tour

Very meheish about whole thing.

Nani was not a player I wanted to see gone even if on loan.

Lucas Hood

I doubt we'll ever see Nani in a United shirt again. It's very rare for a player of his age/stature to go out on loan and then come back and make a contribution to the team.

GSPfan

I'm not sayin a word about Rojo till we see him play. Seems like a lot of players regress when they join United. Only the few true superstars seem to do well.

Look at Jaime Jacksons twitter. He is getting murdered. Its so funny. I hope this is yet another lesson for everyone that these guys are gossip columnists.

Lucas Hood

MagicIRL wrote: »

He broke this Rojo deal iirc or was very close to being the first to report it. I think it's anything he's posted about on Twitter has actually gone through.

I think you're getting mixed up Benatia. Just checked his twitter and I can't see him mentioning Rojo at all.

Kylo Ren

My reaction to all of this.

DM_7

adox wrote: »

But we haven't sold a winger. We given him to another club as a present for a year. Free of charge.

I think United have plenty of cash going by Woodwards bravado, so they should not need to sell Nani to raise funds to buy more players.

If Van Gaal wants a smaller squad this season and United don't need money then its probably no harm loaning him out.

Nani wouldn't be on loan on Van Gaal had any intention of using him on a regular basis. I like Nani, a lot, but he has not played regularly for a long time and I actually think he needs to go and play ball somewhere like Sporting.

If United do what they should in the league this season Nani can be brought back when he would get more game time and on the back of playing regular football or sold on for a good fee.

The_Kew_Tour

What did Jackson say?

cdb

MagicIRL wrote: »

He broke this Rojo deal iirc or was very close to being the first to report it. I think it's anything he's posted about on Twitter has actually gone through.

He was on the money with Rojo alright so might be something in it.
Check Sky Sports transfer centre at 18:50. Not much else at the minute.

http://www1.skysports.com/common/ajax/mobileScribbleContent/47088

beno619

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Yeah he is fat..

http://instagram.com/p/r487jQwBrc/

Ando fat jokes are about as funny as John Terry party crashing pics.

J. Marston

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Very meheish about whole thing.

Nani was not a player I wanted to see gone even if on loan.

I feel the same. Rojo seems like another body to throw to the front lines rather than the tank or fighter jet we needed.

I'm not good with analogies so just consider Vidal to be a tank and Di Maria to be a fighter jet.

GSPfan

Someone please set up a Sporting Superthread and bring the Nani debates over there. It'll reach 10,000 posts faster than most other team threads.

Chagan

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Yeah he is fat..

http://instagram.com/p/r487jQwBrc/

He nominated Fergie I'm still waiting for someone to call out Van Gaal.

tupac_healy wrote: »

The only reasoning I could come up with would be that there may have been a club interested in him, a lot of Juve talk at the time and him tied to a longer contract may have strengthened our postion when thrashing out a deal???

Other thatmb that HIGHLY UNLIKELY scenario, I can't for the life of me fathom a reason.....

So we'll give him massive wages for the next 5 years? Juve were probably only interested in him because he would have been a cheap, low risk option. Extend it for another 1/2 years by all means if we were looking to sell.

Giggsy11

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

What did Jackson say?

Posted this after Sporting confirmed the deal.

jamie jackson @JamieJackson___ · 47m

Have just spoken with #mufc re Rojo from Sporting Lisbon who are clear the deal is still not done, though "inching closer".

30 mins later.
Manchester United @ManUtd · 12m

#mufc has reached agreement with Sporting Lisbon to sign defender Marcos Rojo, subject to a medical and personal terms.

Nolars

GSPfan wrote: »

Someone please set up a Sporting Superthread and bring the Nani debates over there. It'll reach 10,000 posts faster than most other team threads.

A new defender and no Nani talk for the season yes.

Adamocovic

I know all I've seen of Rojo is with Argentina but if he's good enough to make the World Cup squad and play in every game including the final, surely he has to be a good inclusion to the team.

Lovely Bloke

are the CLQR second legs next week?

Maybe there's a player or two playing in these games waiting to see if his team goes through or not before deciding himself if he wants to transfer.

brinty

Looked it's good to see a signing in a position we need
But there's plenty more required
Still need a midfield general and another CB

I'll be saving the Upton/Johannesen/Lawrence/Kendrick gifs for the time being

Liam O

Nolars wrote: »

A new defender and no Nani talk for the season yes.

Oh don't worry, there will be PLENTY of Nani talk.

billyhead

J. Marston wrote: »

I feel the same. Rojo seems like another body to throw to the front lines rather than the tank or fighter jet we needed.

I'm not good with analogies so just consider Vidal to be a tank and Di Maria to be a fighter jet.

I saw all of the Argies game sin the WC and hes a decent defender nothing spectacular. Hs left footed so can play either left back or left center back and therefore can play on the left of LVGs preferred back 3. Hes a good passer and is not afraid to put the tackles in and can also is not afraid to shoot as he scored a goal in one of their games. I would not be convinced that its a good signing however. He could be a complete flop. TBH I doubt he would start for the likes of Chelsea, Real, Barca or Bayern or any other big club.

Headshot

Im very mixed about Rojo signing. I would be still worried about our defence

Al Capwned

Liam O wrote: »

Oh don't worry, there will be PLENTY of Nani talk.

Wait till he scores a worldie and sets up three in his first game.....
Have faith.

DM_7

Jackson is probably on the tell him nothing useful list after his move into ****ty opinion pieces yesterday.

kryogen

MagicIRL wrote: »

He broke this Rojo deal iirc or was very close to being the first to report it. I think it's anything he's posted about on Twitter has actually gone through.

Wouldn't be so sure, he also broke Benatia to United on twitter, flying in the other night he was

IrishIrish

billyhead wrote: »

I saw all of the Argies game sin the WC and hes a decent defender nothing spectacular. Hs left footed so can play either left back or left center back and therefore can play on the left of LVGs preferred back 3. Hes a good passer and is not afraid to put the tackles in and can also is not afraid to shoot as he scored a goal in one of their games. I would not be convinced that its a good signing however. He could be a complete flop. TBH I doubt he would start for the likes of Chelsea, Real, Barca or Bayern or any other big club.

If the WC games are all you've seen of him then you know nothing about him. It's not as if you watched the games paying a particular focus to Rojo so you could get a much better idea about him. His goal in the WC came from a corner (possibly a freekick, can't remember) so shows very little about whether he likes a shot or not.

Also.... IF Chelsea, Real, Barca or Bayern had announced the signing of a 24 year old CB who can also play LB and LWB and already played in a WC Final and only cost €20m, half this board would be going crazy that united had missed out 'AGAIN!!'

The Moldy Gowl

MisterAnarchy

Adamocovic wrote: »

I know all I've seen of Rojo is with Argentina but if he's good enough to make the World Cup squad and play in every game including the final, surely he has to be a good inclusion to the team.

Argentina did play with two holding midfielders during the World cup ,Mascherano was almost a third centre back providing alot of cover so not sure was Rojo really tested.

I know Eamon Dunphy wasn't overly impressed by Rojo ,said he was good going forward but couldn't defend to save his life .
Then again Eamon did say that apart from Messi the rest of the Argentinian team were useless.

twam2008

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Argentina did play with two holding midfielders during the World cup ,Mascherano was almost a third centre back providing alot of cover so not sure was Rojo really tested.

I know Eamon Dunphy wasn't overly impressed by Rojo ,said he was good going forward but couldn't defend to save his life .

Surely if Dunphy doesn't like him that's a good sign.

ShoulderChip

Adamocovic wrote: »

I know all I've seen of Rojo is with Argentina but if he's good enough to make the World Cup squad and play in every game including the final, surely he has to be a good inclusion to the team.

Exactly! It worked for Kleberson:P

Giggsy11

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Rojo did say that the negotiations have been ongoing ever since the end of the World Cup, and his representatives spoke during the World Cup

Maybe for those who thought we only go after back up player after the first choice ends up somewhere.

yabadabado

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Argentina did play with two holding midfielders during the World cup ,Mascherano was almost a third centre back providing alot of cover so not sure was Rojo really tested.

I know Eamon Dunphy wasn't overly impressed by Rojo ,said he was good going forward but couldn't defend to save his life .

I would nearly believe the complete opposite to anything Dunphy says.I bet he never saw Rojo play before the world cup.

Adamocovic

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Argentina did play with two holding midfielders during the World cup ,Mascherano was almost a third centre back providing alot of cover so not sure was Rojo really tested.

I know Eamon Dunphy wasn't overly impressed by Rojo ,said he was good going forward but couldn't defend to save his life .

Ha you might be proven right in the coming weeks but I honestly can't take what Eamon Dunphy says about players seriously. Same lad has criticised the likes of Gerrard, Mourinho and Ronaldo only to change his mind completely.

Quandary

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

I know Eamon Dunphy wasn't overly impressed by Rojo ,said he was good going forward but couldn't defend to save his life .

Dunphy also claimed Ronaldo was a one trick pony who wouldn't amount to much and that rio Ferdinand(in his prime) couldn't defend.

I wouldn't be too worried about the critical stylings of Eamon Dunphy!

Adamocovic

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Exactly! It worked for Kleberson:P

Oh god don't scare me like that :P
...I had completely wiped my memory of Kleberson. Thought he would be the next big thing.

twam2008

Ha ha, Dunphy's popular in here then

Your Airbag

UTDs spending this summer compared to Europes top clubs

zarquon

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Argentina did play with two holding midfielders during the World cup ,Mascherano was almost a third centre back providing alot of cover so not sure was Rojo really tested.

I know Eamon Dunphy wasn't overly impressed by Rojo ,said he was good going forward but couldn't defend to save his life .
Then again Eamon did say that apart from Messi the rest of the Argentinian team were useless.

The same dunphy who wrote off Ronaldo many times.......OK!

yabadabado

Just had a quick look at The Racing Post World Cup Guide:
"Unheralded Rojo is set to fill the problematic left-back position"
hopefully he is heralded by the next world cup:pac:

Lord TSC

Andy Mitten was just on MUTV. He said that his sources in Turin reckon Vidal will be leaving Juventus before the window closes, and that they want to sell him; that the leaks from their side is because they desperately want to create a market for him.

Let's keep the ball rolling, Eddy!