Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

magnumbud

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

My wishlist for the summer was:

[*]LB
[*]CB
[*]CM
[*]CM


So I'm pretty close to satisfied.

pretty much my list but when evra left i added a second LB for cover. hoping for blind since he can also cover CM on top of someone to partner herrera

J. Marston

https://twitter.com/skysports_bryan/statuses/502121680001843201

Trying to save face or the truth?

Copper_pipe

Check out @skysports_bryan's Tweet: https://twitter.com/skysports_bryan/status/502121680001843201

Maximus Alexander

magnumbud wrote: »

pretty much my list but when evra left i added a second LB for cover. hoping for blind since he can also cover CM on top of someone to partner herrera

Rojo can probably cover LB, but then that leaves CB light again. So I guess another defender of some description would be nice.

newballsplease

Reedsie wrote: »

It's funny that Moyes got so much stick last year for his intense training sessions after we picked up a lot of injuries.

Van Gaal has had them training double shifts since he's arrived and the injury list is shooting up but no criticism.

In fairness looking at Fellaini on the crutches with a half cast on it may have been from a bad tackle or jumping for a header/landing on his ankle, which isnt a strain(which could be blamed sue to intense training)

Shaws yes/fellaini maybe not.

Reedsie

Cookiemunster wrote: »

The injury problem goes back Fergies time though. We simply have certain players who are mad of glass.

Shaw and Fellaini?

Reedsie

newballsplease wrote: »

In fairness looking at Fellaini on the crutches with a half cast on it may have been from a bad tackle or jumping for a header/landing on his ankle, which isnt a strain(which could be blamed sue to intense training)

Shaws yes/fellaini maybe not.

Ah I'm not blaming either manager for any injuries. I don't think any of us know enough about the regimes to do so tbh. I'm just commenting on the difference in the fans reactions.

xtal191

What team of the tournament was Rojo in? Almost everyone I've seen so far has Blind as Left Back.

Maximus Alexander

xtal191 wrote: »

What team of the tournament was Rojo in? Almost everyone I've seen so far has Blind as Left Back.

Argentina's team of the tournament.

homerjay2005

the consensus in Italy amongest Juve fans (according to work colleague who supports them) is that Vidal wants to leave and is waiting for us to put in an offer in.

Reedsie

J. Marston wrote: »

https://twitter.com/skysports_bryan/statuses/502121680001843201

Trying to save face or the truth?

But of course we could have been rejected without making any bids. We alll know that the offer is by no means the first part of the process.


I think United would be better off just keeping quiet in these situations.

brinty

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Argentina's team of the tournament.

Was that the one that looked like this
Romero
Zabaleta---j Lopez-Upton-Rojo
Johannsen---brintino--kendricka
Messi---Lawrenci--maximus

Adamocovic

xtal191 wrote: »

What team of the tournament was Rojo in? Almost everyone I've seen so far has Blind as Left Back.

Could be wrong and would have to check it but I think I remember hearing he was in the top 11 based on the Castrol Performance Index. You know those ratings associated with Fifa.

Rubber_Soul

homerjay2005 wrote: »

the consensus in Italy amongest Juve fans (according to work colleague who supports them) is that Vidal wants to leave and is waiting for us to put in an offer in.

How many Juve fans did he poll?

Zico

homerjay2005 wrote: »

the consensus in Italy amongest Juve fans (according to work colleague who supports them) is that Vidal wants to leave and is waiting for us to put in an offer in.

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MagicMarker

homerjay2005 wrote: »

the consensus in Italy amongest Juve fans (according to work colleague who supports them) is that Vidal wants to leave and is waiting for us to put in an offer in.

The consensus among all juve fans according to your one mate?

Okidoki.

Maximus Alexander

brinty wrote: »

Was that the one that looked like this
Romero
Zabaleta---j Lopez-Upton-Rojo
Johannsen---brintino--kendricka
Messi---Lawrenci--maximus

All I can say is I'd be supplying plenty of balls for the center forward. :eek:

Your Airbag

brinty

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

All I can say is I'd be supplying plenty of balls for the center forward. :eek:

and Messi dribbling all over the place

Vic Vinegar

Were those Vidal quotes ever verified? The one from from two (ish) weeks ago where he allegedly said "if the deal falls through with United" (paraphrasing!)

adox

Ah lads you are going out of your way to pick at Homers posts at this stage.

You know what he ****ing meant.

Ravenid

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Were those Vidal quotes ever verified? The one from from two (ish) weeks ago where he allegedly said "if the deal falls through with United" (paraphrasing!)

He'll do well at Newcastle.

twam2008

Would Morgan Schneiderlin be a crazy idea?

newballsplease

I believe it that UTd havent yet bid for Vidal.
Still think LVG wants to see how he plays after his injury. No point spending £40+mill on a player who you're just not 100% certain on.

redbaron_99

Harry Palmr wrote: »

David Conn writing in the Guardian about the state of the club and the Glazers.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/aug/20/glazers-thrive-manchester-united-flounder-ed-woodward

The Glazers make me sick to the core. Just a mere glance at their rat faces and their dead eyes makes me want to punch the screen. Would love to see them chased out of our club.

Edit: and some people constantly give out about Fellaini, while that shower who have pillaged the club for years are sitting up in the stands grinning at how they pulled off the robbery of funds that were earned from fans and hard working staff.

Backstreet Moyes

twam2008 wrote: »

Would Morgan Schneiderlin be a crazy idea?

He is better than Anderson, cleverley and fletcher combined so no be a good signing.

beno619

homerjay2005 wrote: »

I think its the standard of players, football and sh&t results over the past 12 months thats the main problem, dont you?

The most prevalent issue is transfers or an apparent lack of movement by the club.

Quandary

twam2008 wrote: »

Would Morgan Schneiderlin be a crazy idea?

This is the the type of player we should be adding to our midfield right now. He's significantly better than what we have and even he should be attainable.

Instead of shooting for the stars with the likes of Vidal/Fabregas/kroos who result in long drawn out sagas where we fall on our arses empty handed, we should actually improve our midfield by signing the likes of a Schneiderlin.

By all means then try signing the big boys. At least we would have strengthened some little bit if they fail. Get rid of the Cleverleys et al to reduce the numbers.

homerjay2005

beno619 wrote: »

The most prevalent issue is transfers or an apparent lack of movement by the club.

yes, but you cant blame the media for us not signing players though really?

some of the posters on here bring their dads to the games (lads 60+) that wouldnt go near the media or a computer and even they are able to see whats happening without being influenced.

media plays a part, but the club is not helping matters.

twam2008

Quandary wrote: »

This is the the type of player we should be adding to our midfield right now. He's significantly better than what we have and even he should be attainable.

Instead of shooting for the stars with the likes of Vidal/Fabregas/kroos who result in long drawn out sagas where we fall on our arses empty handed, we should actually improve our midfield by signing the likes of a Schneiderlin.

By all means then try signing the big boys. At least we would have strengthened some little bit if they fail. Get rid of the Cleverleys et al to reduce the numbers.

Agree, definitely think he'd be gettable, would improve our midfield, we could take our time doing a deal for Strootman and would definitely sort things out for a few years.

lordgoat

twam2008 wrote: »

Would Morgan Schneiderlin be a crazy idea?

He'd have been the first player from saints I'd have taken. Improvement all round.

TheTownie

Haha. Fellaini nominates Moyes.

https://twitter.com/fellainiM/status/502141529725878272

Lord TSC

I love the way he starts to scream and then remembers he has boy parts :P

Headshot

Lord TSC wrote: »

I love the way he starts to scream and then remembers he has boy parts :P

He's more bush than balls tbh

beno619

homerjay2005 wrote: »

yes, but you cant blame the media for us not signing players though really?

some of the posters on here bring their dads to the games (lads 60+) that wouldnt go near the media or a computer and even they are able to see whats happening without being influenced.

media plays a part, but the club is not helping matters.

No its posters getting hung up on media stories of United missing out on X target because of X reason.

We have established that nobody knows what's going on inside United at least where transfers are concerned, but people will have criticisms based on these BS stories.

RichFTW

Your Airbag wrote: »

Absolute madness, his favourite player is David Beckham?! He is only a pretty boy sure.

ericzeking

adox wrote: »

Ah lads you are going out of your way to pick at Homers posts at this stage.

You know what he ****ing meant.

Hey adox you don't need to fight battles for "big bad homerjay"!!! ðŸ˜

The Moldy Gowl

redbaron_99 wrote: »

The Glazers make me sick to the core. Just a mere glance at their rat faces and their dead eyes makes me want to punch the screen. Would love to see them chased out of our club.

Edit: and some people constantly give out about Fellaini, while that shower who have pillaged the club for years are sitting up in the stands grinning at how they pulled off the robbery of funds that were earned from fans and hard working staff.

That is an awful amount of vitriol for something that's been proven untrue.

If the glazers weren't here where would we be?

adox

ericzeking wrote: »

Hey adox you don't need to fight battles for "big bad homerjay"!!! ðŸ˜

I'm not fighting his battles, I'm sure he can do that well enough himself.

I will speak my mind on here though.

On the Glazers - I find it difficult to see a difference in the pattern of spending before and after they arrived. There's been plenty of money spent since they took over, unfortunately a huge amount of it has been completely misdirected.

gosplan

redbaron_99 wrote: »

The Glazers make me sick to the core. Just a mere glance at their rat faces and their dead eyes makes me want to punch the screen. Would love to see them chased out of our club.

Edit: and some people constantly give out about Fellaini, while that shower who have pillaged the club for years are sitting up in the stands grinning at how they pulled off the robbery of funds that were earned from fans and hard working staff.

Conn makes a good point there that I think will ultimately be the problem going forward.

The Glazers won't invest in proven stars. It's young talent with potentially huge resale value. The exceptions were RVP, which was probably appeasing Fergie, and Mata which was a fair enough punt to stay in the CL.

I kind if get the impression that they think they'll just repeat the Ronaldo transfer again or something.

What they won't do (I think) is sanction top prices for proven top level players with experience.

At 26 and costing a fortune I don't think Utd will bid for Di Maria.

steoin

http://www.football365.com/f365-says/9429950/F365-Focus

You know who you are.

The Moldy Gowl

gosplan wrote: »

Conn makes a good point there that I think will ultimately be the problem going forward.

The Glazers won't invest in proven stars. It's young talent with potentially huge resale value. The exceptions were RVP, which was probably appeasing Fergie, and Mata which was a fair enough punt to stay in the CL.

I kind if get the impression that they think they'll just repeat the Ronaldo transfer again or something.

What they won't do (I think) is sanction top prices for proven top level players with experience.

At 26 and costing a fortune I don't think Utd will bid for Di Maria.

Or maybe fergie liked young players?

The glazers didn't buy for fergie

Kaizersoze81

steoin wrote: »

http://www.football365.com/f365-says/9429950/F365-Focus

You know who you are.

Agreed. Sick of reading posts by supposed ITK on here who's father/uncle/brother are in with United. These people say very little, occasionally just posting cryptic messages that ultimately mean nothing, but are meant to display that they have inside knowledge.

ericzeking

adox wrote: »

I'm not fighting his battles, I'm sure he can do that well enough himself.

I will speak my mind on here though.

I was merely jesting in reference to a previous post...you clearly didn't get it...continue speak your mind to the upmost good sir

Vinz Mesrine

gosplan wrote: »

Conn makes a good point there that I think will ultimately be the problem going forward.

The Glazers won't invest in proven stars. It's young talent with potentially huge resale value. The exceptions were RVP, which was probably appeasing Fergie, and Mata which was a fair enough punt to stay in the CL.

I kind if get the impression that they think they'll just repeat the Ronaldo transfer again or something.

What they won't do (I think) is sanction top prices for proven top level players with experience.

At 26 and costing a fortune I don't think Utd will bid for Di Maria.

It seems to be an American thing, FSG are the exact same.

Will I Amnt

gosplan wrote: »

Conn makes a good point there that I think will ultimately be the problem going forward.

The Glazers won't invest in proven stars. It's young talent with potentially huge resale value. The exceptions were RVP, which was probably appeasing Fergie, and Mata which was a fair enough punt to stay in the CL.

I kind if get the impression that they think they'll just repeat the Ronaldo transfer again or something.

What they won't do (I think) is sanction top prices for proven top level players with experience.

At 26 and costing a fortune I don't think Utd will bid for Di Maria.

That doesn't make sense when you consider the transfer fees they are approving. It's not like it's bargain basement shopping.

The Moldy Gowl

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

It seems to be an American thing, FSG are the exact same.

I don't think so.

United obviously have more cash that Liverpool and spend more than ye.

It's relative I think.

Vinz Mesrine

Gowlasauras Rex wrote: »

I don't think so.

United obviously have more cash that Liverpool and spend more than ye.

It's relative I think.

I meant more in the style of players being bought, neither club is going to go out and buy a player from the top bracket in Europe.

Will I Amnt

If that was their policy, which it clearly isn't when you look at United's recent transfers and how little the club recuperate in sales, you don't spend the guts of 30m on a f*cking left back.