Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

twam2008

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

If the level of player isn't available then surely you drop down to the next level.

If Vidal isn't available, go for someone below him.

I totally agree with you there. Might be happening. Can only hope.

bucketybuck

Headshot wrote: »

Personally if I only saw Di Maria as the last signing this transfer window, ill be ****ing delighted tbh. He's a game winner and utd have missed this for some time. If you can get a player of Di Maria quality, you cant turn it down

Could easily have said this about Mata in January.

Style doesn't work without substance.

bullvine

I am really shocked we havent signed De Jong, I cant think of a single reason why he wouldnt be a good fit for the team.

onemorechance

bullvine wrote: »

I am really shocked we havent signed De Jong, I cant think of a single reason why he wouldnt be a good fit for the team.

Because there is still more than an hour left in the transfer window! :pac:

beno619

Mitch Connor wrote: »

They could well afford him, but the figures don't back up the myth of Jersey sales recouping major costs. It would require sponsor deals that would surprise me, as well as an argument the over a million people that would not have bought the kit, ended up buying it just because of the one purchase.

I bought the myth apparently.

J. Marston

Relax, people....

https://twitter.com/ManUtdChannel/statuses/502538421575770113

We've got TC23 and we're giving him more wages.

twam2008

J. Marston wrote: »

Relax, people....

https://twitter.com/ManUtdChannel/statuses/502538421575770113

We've got TC23 and we're giving him more wages.

Could we send him out on a permanent loan? One that doesn't involve paying his wages.

Liam O

If LVG is persisting with a 3-5-2 then Di Maria is a waste, plain and simple. Kagawa already covers a WC player in Di Maria's position in it. Another RWB/RB like Cuadrado and a CM, ANY CM is what should close out the window, not spunking money for the sake of it.

Rubber_Soul

Liam O wrote: »

If LVG is persisting with a 3-5-2 then Di Maria is a waste, plain and simple. Kagawa already covers a WC player in Di Maria's position in it. Another RWB/RB like Cuadrado and a CM, ANY CM is what should close out the window, not spunking money for the sake of it.

He's already said he's only playing 352 because he doesn't have the players he needs for his favoured 433.

Kagawa

J. Marston wrote: »

Relax, people....

https://twitter.com/ManUtdChannel/statuses/502538421575770113

We've got TC23 and we're giving him more wages.

F**king Jesus Christ wept!!!

GSPfan

Cringe ^^^^^

GSPfan

Cleverley is 1 year away from being a free transfer isnt he? Well it makes sense to get him on a new contract. Nani did it and still got no games and went on loan. Chill. Doesn't mean Vidal isn't coming.

Lord TSC

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

If the level of player isn't available then surely you drop down to the next level.

If Vidal isn't available, go for someone below him.

Honestly, for all people want to make out we have a bunch of Sunday leaguers in our midfield, I would think we have plenty down on that level. What we need is significant improvement, not another settle job.

beno619

Lads talk of this contract has been bandied about since the end of last season.

It should come as no shock, hopefully a bit of cop on is shown by posters here when it's official, we have bigger issues right now without the TC23 hate posts.

Vinz Mesrine

Lord TSC wrote: »

Honestly, for all people want to make out we have a bunch of Sunday leaguers in our midfield, I would think we have plenty down on that level. What we need is significant improvement, not another settle job.

Schneiderlen IMO would improve the United midfield and I'm sure would jump at the chance to move.

twam2008

Lord TSC wrote: »

Honestly, for all people want to make out we have a bunch of Sunday leaguers in our midfield, I would think we have plenty down on that level. What we need is significant improvement, not another settle job.

The other side of that is we shouldn't be spending summers chasing high profile signings, only to say they're not available, they don't want to come to Manchester etc. and ignore all the players out there who could improve our midfield. It hasn't worked for years now.

GSPfan

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

Schneiderlen IMO would improve the United midfield and I'm sure would jump at the chance to move.

Southampton have completely blocked him from leaving. Its a no go.

yabadabado

billyhead wrote: »

Everyone knows he would not be the 1st choice player we should go after, but if Vidal is not available their are not many options out their apart from Strootman in January.

There are dozens of midfielders that would improve the squad ,I don't see why people think it has to be Vidal or Strootman.

I would love to see those players signed and Di Maria but there are plenty of players available that will improve United.

Lord TSC

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

Schneiderlen IMO would improve the United midfield and I'm sure would jump at the chance to move.

This the same player Southampton are pretty much refusing to sell right now? (which goes back to what I said earlier about players not being available). Its likely that we did ask and got the same reply other clubs have ("**** off", basically).

secman

yabadabado wrote: »

There are dozens of midfielders that would improve the squad ,I don't see why people think it has to be Vidal or Strootman.

I would love to see those players signed and Di Maria but there are plenty of players available that will improve United.

Name the dozens, curious as who they are, and if available.

twam2008

yabadabado wrote: »

There are dozens of midfielders that would improve the squad ,I don't see why people think it has to be Vidal or Strootman.

I would love to see those players signed and Di Maria but there are plenty of players available that will improve United.

I also don't see why Strootman is easily available to us.

GSPfan

twam2008 wrote: »

I also don't see why Strootman is easily available to us.

That post doesn't say that.

billyhead

twam2008 wrote: »

I also don't see why Strootman is easily available to us.

The chance to work under LVG at club level. United are obviously a much bigger club and not to mention a massive jump in wages. There are lots of reasons why he would like to join us. He could go on a strike/hissy fit to force a move like Rojo and submit a transfer request. Remember the players have lots of power nowadays and contracts are meaningless.

twam2008

GSPfan wrote: »

That post doesn't say that.

No, but there seems to be a general consensus that Strootman will just stroll in January. It seems that Schneiderlin wants out and a serious offer should do it, worked with Rojo and all were fine with it.

Vinz Mesrine

Lord TSC wrote: »

This the same player Southampton are pretty much refusing to sell right now? (which goes back to what I said earlier about players not being available). Its likely that we did ask and got the same reply other clubs have ("**** off", basically).

They were refusing to sell Lovren too, if a player wants the move he can get it.

yabadabado

secman wrote: »

Name the dozens, curious as who they are, and if available.

Do you not think there are dozens of CM's who would improve the squad if they were signed?
My point is United shouldn't be just targeting Vidal and Strootman and their are plenty of players a level below who could do a good job.

DeJong,Khedira,Lars/Swen Bender,Illarimendi,Song,Sandro,Schneiderlen,
Carvalho,Veretti ,xhada are just a handful of players who would improve the squad.I.m not going to name 20+ players but I have seen plenty of all the players mentioned I would have no doubt they are an upgrade.

EDIT:There was actually a list here last summer ,I think Mikey did it up, of players who could join United .

Mitch Connor

StarshipPooper wrote: »

He's already said he's only playing 352 because he doesn't have the players he needs for his favoured 433.

I don't think di Maria really opens us up to other formations. We still wouldn't have the central midfield players.

glued

Not sure why we'd buy Di Maria without buying a top CM before the window shuts. Doesn't seem like we're going to get anymore players in anyway.

Mr.Prodston

I haven't read the last page or 2 so have no idea where conversation has drifted off too but an observation I have is that the team is severely lacking in pace, making quick transitions and counter attacks less prevalent/ and or successful.

I'd love if both Di Maria and Cuadrado were brought in. Just my hope not suggesting it likely, as well as a midfielder. Another CB wouldn't go amiss either but lets not lose the run of ourselves entirely :pac: How you accommodate the players is another story but the team needs pace and a bit of bite/nous in midfield. We have the players to unlock the doors and to score the goals but we need to add to that. I'm stating the obvious with all of the above I know.

lordgoat

Reedsie wrote: »

Hindsight is wonderful. At the time most fans were happy to see him go for the money received.

Any fan that was happy to see him go was an idiot. Best player bar none i've seen play.

secman wrote: »

Name the dozens, curious as who they are, and if available.

There are easily dozens listed. Pick prety much any top 4-6 club in England, Spain, Germany, Italy, look at who starts in midfield. Will they improve our midfield. Yes.

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

I haven't read the last page or 2 so have no idea where conversation has drifted off too but an observation I have is that the team is severely lacking in pace, making quick transitions and counter attacks less prevalent/ and or successful.

I'd love if both Di Maria and Cuadrado were brought in. Just my hope not suggesting it likely, as well as a midfielder. Another CB wouldn't go amiss either but lets not lose the run of ourselves entirely :pac: How you accommodate the players is another story but the team needs pace and a bit of bite/nous in midfield. We have the players to unlock the doors and to score the goals but we need to add to that. I'm stating the obvious with all of the above I know.

I'd be pissed off if they both came in. Still no midfielder or CB bought. Disaster if we don't get a CB and a CM this window.

MagicMarker

glued wrote: »

Doesn't seen like we're going to get anymore players in anyway.

Based on what?

Mitch Connor

Seeing arsenal might be in for Cavani. If they buy him, PSG will certainly get di Maria, no question about that I reckon.

xtal191

Rumours of Cavani to Arsenal if true bye bye Di Maria

newballsplease

Agree the fee and Give Rojo the phone...

Rubber_Soul

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I don't think di Maria really opens us up to other formations. We still wouldn't have the central midfield players.

I agree he wouldn't right now, but imo our squad as it currently is plus Di Maria is definitely good enough for top 4 this year. Once we do finally get the central midfielders we're going to be looking for a top class winger and it's more than likely there won't be any as good as Di Maria available.

homerjay2005

We got 3 problems at moment IMO.

Very inexperienced defence with need for top class center half.

Complete lack of creativity in midfield.

Lack of pace, counter attack ability and width in attack.


Di Maria will solve one of those problems anyway and its a start. Wed get away with defence if we stick to a flat back 4 and avoid injuries.

Mitch Connor

homerjay2005 wrote: »

We got 3 problems at moment IMO.

Very inexperienced defence with need for top class center half.

Complete lack of creativity in midfield.

Lack of pace, counter attack ability and width in attack.


Di Maria will solve one of those problems anyway and its a start. Wed get away with defence if we stick to a flat back 4 and avoid injuries.

Herrera will improve the creativity in midfield, linking with mata, if we get a combative midfielder to give him a bit of freedom.

FutureGuy

City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool have reinforced with class. We have brought in 2 players with potential.

Tick tock.

yabadabado

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Herrera will improve the creativity in midfield, linking with mata, if we get a combative midfielder to give him a bit of freedom.

I never thought I would say this but at this stage I would be delighted to sign De Jong.

Rayne Wooney

There are four better teams than us as of today IMO

We are only 2 or 3 players away from having a top side but still so far, getting those players is like our Everest at the moment

dahat

yabadabado wrote: »

I never thought I would say this but at this stage I would be delighted to sign De Jong.

De Jong would be a good fit just now, would help shore up our porous midfield.

Larry Wildman

Di Maria?

No thanks.

Not until our more pressing problems in midfield and defence are resolved.

And even then I've a bad "caveat emptor" feeling about this guy.

irishfeen

FutureGuy we might need you in overdrive over the next 11 days :pac:

Jimmy Iovine

homerjay2005 wrote: »

We got 3 problems at moment IMO.

Very inexperienced defence with need for top class center half.

Complete lack of creativity in midfield.

Lack of pace, counter attack ability and width in attack.


Di Maria will solve one of those problems anyway and its a start. Wed get away with defence if we stick to a flat back 4 and avoid injuries.

There's a huge hole in your master plan.

The defenders are made of glass. I fear for who we'll end up playing there this season.

I think Herrera will play there at least once.

twam2008

Have to be honest, I thrive off rumours, and not just for us, for any team, the transfer window is on par with the last few games of the season, it plays a big part in who does what, and I can't remember a year when there has been less talk about who we are actually in for. Some say we're being all secretive, it'll be good, wait until the last day, but all I can think is Fellaini.

The_Kew_Tour

have feeling we will make bid for James McCarthy

n32

This has to be the worst window we ve had. Even though we ve signed a few players, our main rivals who we were already lagging behind have all bought well and strengthened their weak spots from last season. If we dont act decisively in the next fortnight we re only going to fall further behind

Trigger

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

have feeling we will make bid for James McCarthy

So that's what that mystery post was earlier. I thought you were posting in the wrong thread or something..:pac:

McCarthy would be an underwhelming signing at this point but might compliment Herrera. Give us a bit of bite in the middle all the same.

dahat

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

have feeling we will make bid for James McCarthy

He will fit better than Di Maria but him and Di Maria would be bingo.

RobbingBandit

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

have feeling we will make bid for James McCarthy

Would be great to see a Green Devil again, has been a while now.