Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

Pro. F

BloodBath wrote: »

Maybe but we're currently in transition between 3 mangers signings and ideas on how to play resulting in a disjointed squad that barely has a good starting 11 for any one of those formations.

The piss poor midfield is the main problem at the moment.

We should break the bank for Di Maria and Khedira before someone else does.

Vidal and Khedira would be even better imo for a 4-3-3 giving us a midfield of Vidal, Khedira and Herrera with a forward line of Rooney, Van Persie and Mata.

Problem solved. If only it was that easy. And yes none of that forward line has much pace but what can you do. Offload Van Persie next season and get a pacey wide player.

We have good starting 11s. Contrary to what has become widely accepted Jones, Smalling and Evans are not bad CBs. Carrick and Hererra is much better than Gerrard and Allen/Henderson/Can/Lucas, so our midfield isn't that bad. Our striker options and GK are better than Liverpool and Arsenal's.

bangkok

Pro. F wrote: »

First we have Marca, Madrid's mouthpiece, this morning with headlines of Di Maria and Khedira being unhappy and certain to leave the club. Then we have Balague, a none bullshíter who spins stories to ingratiate himself with Spanish chairmen, announcing that United are close to sealing the deal with Di Maria. This smells very strongly of Madrid bullshít.

what? they are meeting mendes for a final time this week for final talks and its already been agreed he will wear the no7 shirt... this is very much a done deal

magnumbud

magnumbud wrote: »

di maria played that position for madrid most of last season including the cl final and was fantastic so no reason he couldn't do it

Zico wrote: »

So we're breaking our transfer record to shoehorn a winger into CM?

Are you serious?

:rolleyes:

TheTownie

Lord TSC wrote: »

Who cares, let's get excited!

https://vine.co/v/hQFqeHXUUTv

Right Turn Clyde

Whatsisname wrote: »

sky sports reported it actually

It must be true then. Sky Sports. It's definitely gonna happen.

Adamocovic

FortuneChip wrote: »

Quick everyone, make hypothetical starting 11's!

I'm on it!

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Van Der Gouw

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Blackett--
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Vidic

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Fergie

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Giggs

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Rooney

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Keano

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Adrian Chiles

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Di Maria

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I think the flying V formation will work best and Chiles and Di Marias strong relationship will lead to a killer attack.

ElChe32

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

About 15 minutes worth of drawing on MS Paint with my GF asking "What the fúck are you drawing?".

So I show her a picture of him.

"You're sad."

Don't worry, Kate understands better than your gf ever will.

Lord TSC

TheTownie wrote: »

Office Vine

How'd you get footage from Woodward's office :pac:

hufpc8w3adnk65

bangkok wrote: »

what? they are meeting mendes for a final time this week for final talks and its already been agreed he will wear the no7 shirt... this is very much a done deal

Source?

BloodBath

Pro. F wrote: »

We have good starting 11s. Contrary to what has become widely accepted Jones, Smalling and Evans are not bad CBs. Carrick and Hererra is much better than Gerrard and Allen/Henderson/Can/Lucas, so our midfield isn't that bad. Our striker options and GK are better than Liverpool and Arsenal's.

I never said anything about the defence. I'm happy enough with what has been done there providing we are playing 2 CB's and not 3. If we are playing 3 we need to buy another.

Carrick is out for several months and is getting to an age where he should be replaced. We need a top quality defensive mid this window and yes our midfield is that bad, definitely worse than Liverpools.

Liverpool aren't the benchmark for our team either, Chelsea and City are. Even Arsenal. Look at their midfields.

Pro. F

magnumbud wrote: »

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De Gea

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Rafa---Evans

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jones/rojo/smalling--shaw

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carrick/fletcher/fellaini/new CM

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Herrera

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di maria

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mata

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rooney ---rvp

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di maria played that position for madrid most of last season including the cl final and was fantastic so no reason he couldn't do it

He still did most of his best work by drifting wide and Madrid, unlike United had insane pace playing ahead of him so the formation was very flexible and quite prone to playing deep sitting counter attack. If we're going to spend gigantic sums of money for a central midfielder, I'd rather buy a central midfielder. Or just play Di Maria in his best position.

paulbok

Buddy Holly wrote: »

Sorry should have said 70 Million euros.

Either way, one of the best players in the world for 50m is good business. But it will require at least 1 more cm to be a good move.

The Pontiac

Zico wrote: »

This has to be a joke.

We could sign Messi and Ronaldo now and still lose every game because we don't have a commanding defender to lead the defence and reliable ball winner/defensive shield in midfield.

And who loses out, is Mata surplus to requirements after just 8 months?

I thought the modern game was about a strong squad rather than a first eleven?

BigBabyTaylor

bangkok wrote: »

what? they are meeting mendes for a final time this week for final talks and its already been agreed he will wear the no7 shirt... this is very much a done deal

How do you know? Because Guilleme Balague said so? Nothing is a done deal until its done.

yabadabado

Zico wrote: »

So we're breaking our transfer record to shoehorn a winger into CM?

Are you serious?

you obviously didnt see him play there for Madrid last season.

RobertKK

I will say what I have been saying all summer.

Ronaldo returns to United in the summer of 2015, Real Madrid will sell as it is the last real opportunity to get lots of dosh for him.

Ronaldo adores the talent of Di Maria and would obviously want him in the team with him if he had the choice. We know he went to Perez last summer to tell him to keep Di Maria and it was reported Ronaldo and Ramos went to Perez again this summer to ask the same.

Di Maria was insulted by the signing of Rodriguez. As Graham Hunter said on Off the Ball, Di Maria is a top 5 player in the world and is a real Ballon Dor contender, and he would put him as the best player at Madrid after Ronaldo.
Hunter went onto say last week, that Perez risks upsetting the team with the buys he makes and lets be clear, the Madrid fans are very unhappy with how Di Maria has been treated.
Perez went after Rodriguez not because he was needed - he wasn't but on the premise someone would sign him.

Ronaldo would only advise someone to join United if he saw some benefit in it, because it wouldn't matter to Ronaldo since he isn't playing here, unless he sees the move as a benefit to his own future plans.

Di Maria would be a huge signing and statement of intent.

homerjay2005

irishfeen wrote: »

Alex Shaw reliable?

he is only rehashing what Delaney said last 2 weeks (they work together) - 4 players was the intention before window shuts

Rojo
Di Maria
Blind
Vidal

Miguel is spot on so far it looks like

there was a story doing the rounds that LVG wanted to "see" Vidal in action tonight before deciding what to do with him....Vidal starts for Juve apparently.

FortuneChip

Adamocovic wrote: »

I'm on it!

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Van Der Gouw

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--Stam

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Blackett--
----Neville

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Vidic

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Fergie

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Giggs

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Rooney

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Keano

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Adrian Chiles

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Di Maria

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I think the flying V formation will work best and Chiles and Di Marias strong relationship will lead to a killer attack.

I F*cking hate Adrian Chiles.

bangkok

MrMac84 wrote: »

Source?

which source would you like? its breaking news on every sports channel...

Adamocovic

FortuneChip wrote: »

I F*cking hate Adrian Chiles.

I don't like him too but he's whats missing from our team

NTMK

**** it onto the optimistic bus

paulbok

Buddy Holly wrote: »

Sorry should have said 70 Million euros.

Either way, one of the best players in the world for 50m is good business. But it will require at least 1 more cm to be a good move.

Larry Wildman

People saying that Di Maria can play in midfield. You couldn't make it up. How about signing players who we actually need?

A joke.

We're Manchester United, not Stoke City, yet people are carrying on like the signing of a Real Madrid reject is the Second Coming. Parochial small town stuff.

The club is donald ducked.

yabadabado

FortuneChip wrote: »

I F*cking hate Adrian Chiles.

same as,got a yellow here a few months back because I called him a .......

bangkok

BigBabyTaylor wrote: »

How do you know? Because Guilleme Balague said so? Nothing is a done deal until its done.

fine...its 99.9% a done deal

FortuneChip

Larry Wildman wrote: »

People saying that Di Maria can play in midfield. You couldn't make it up. How about signing players who we actually need?

A joke.

We're Manchester United, not Stoke City, yet people are carrying on like the signing of a Real Madrid reject is the Second Coming. Parochial small town stuff.

The club is donald ducked.

Have you considered rugby?

Pro. F

bangkok wrote: »

what? they are meeting mendes for a final time this week for final talks and its already been agreed he will wear the no7 shirt... this is very much a done deal

What is your source?

Mantis Toboggan

paulbok wrote: »

Either way, one of the best players in the world for 50m is good business. But it will require at least 1 more cm to be a good move.

Possibly, but we didn't need another winger.

I would have preferred a world class Centre mid and centre defender.

Headshot

FortuneChip wrote: »

Have you considered rugby?

I reckon they would love in the rugby forum for sure.

MagicMarker

bangkok wrote: »

which source would you like? its breaking news on every sports channel...

And they're all using the same source. Are you really that naive?

bangkok

Larry Wildman wrote: »

People saying that Di Maria can play in midfield. You couldn't make it up. How about signing players who we actually need?

A joke.

We're Manchester United, not Stoke City, yet people are carrying on like the signing of a Real Madrid reject is the Second Coming. Parochial small town stuff.

The club is donald ducked.

hahahahahhahaha

we are signing a f**king world class player!!!

kryogen

Nuts102 wrote: »

Should have tried o get Gareth Barry on a free he is dominating the Arsenal midfield.

I mentioned him at some point over the summer, genuinely would have been ok with him as a stop gap until the fitness of Strootman is assessed

yabadabado

Larry Wildman wrote: »

People saying that Di Maria can play in midfield. You couldn't make it up. How about signing players who we actually need?

A joke.

We're Manchester United, not Stoke City, yet people are carrying on like the signing of a Real Madrid reject is the Second Coming. Parochial small town stuff.

The club is donald ducked.

calm down man ,that rage will do you no good.

Haven't you got some video tapes to return or something.............

Right Turn Clyde

Larry Wildman wrote: »

People saying that Di Maria can play in midfield. You couldn't make it up. How about signing players who we actually need?

A joke.

We're Manchester United, not Stoke City, yet people are carrying on like the signing of a Real Madrid reject is the Second Coming. Parochial small town stuff.

The club is donald ducked.

You're either lying or you don't watch Spanish football, or indeed Champions League football for that matter. Di Maria has been pushed down the pecking order at Real Madrid, that's true, but you're only displaying your ignorance by labelling him a reject.

RobertKK

Larry Wildman wrote: »

People saying that Di Maria can play in midfield. You couldn't make it up. How about signing players who we actually need?

A joke.

We're Manchester United, not Stoke City, yet people are carrying on like the signing of a Real Madrid reject is the Second Coming. Parochial small town stuff.

The club is donald ducked.

I don't believe United will finish signing players presuming Di Maria is coming.
I wouldn't rule Vidal out just yet.

I think LVG is simply putting the jigsaw pieces together and some pieces are simply still missing and he will go for a 4-3-3 formation.

Cantstandsya

Adamocovic wrote: »

I'm on it!

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Van Der Gouw

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--Stam

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Blackett--
----Neville

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Vidic

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Fergie

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Giggs

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Rooney

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Keano

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Adrian Chiles

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Di Maria

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I think the flying V formation will work best and Chiles and Di Marias strong relationship will lead to a killer attack.

Well if it worked for the Mighty Ducks...

Pro. F

BloodBath wrote: »

I never said anything about the defence. I'm happy enough with what has been done there providing we are playing 2 CB's and not 3. If we are playing 3 we need to buy another.

Carrick is out for several months and is getting to an age where he should be replaced. We need a top quality defensive mid this window.

You think Gerrard isn't getting to the age where he needs to be replaced? Or that he was ever as good as Carrick in central midfield in the first place?

BloodBath wrote: »

Liverpool aren't the benchmark for our team either, Chelsea and City are.

I said that there is not nearly as much of a gap between the squads of United, Liverpool and Arsenal as people think and you responded to that by disagreeing with my statement. Who our benchmark should be is a different point entirely.

bangkok

Pro. F wrote: »

What is your source?

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/9437202/manchester-united-close-on-real-madrid-and-argentina-winger-angel-di-maria

MagicIRL

LADS.

IS THIS TRUE? MY HEART.

http://www.joe.ie/football/football-news/sky-sports-report-that-angel-di-maria-will-join-manchester-united-next-week/

tupac_healy

Nuts102 wrote: »

If Di Maria signs he is the best player at the club i don't see how anybody could not want him. He imo is one of the best players in the world Madrid are nuts.

This this this all day long!!!

One big reason Ronnie has been so outstanding is because other teams have their hands full with Di Maria! He's been outstanding for multiple seasons now...

Agree Madrid are nuts

Mantis Toboggan

It's not a coup either as some people are proclaiming. Real couldn't get rid of him fast enough. They simply offered the most money.

Another winger that we don't need.

Where will be play?

Wing back?

jaykay74

On the proviso that there will be decent CM business done before the window shuts the Di Maria deal is/will be great news.

redbaron_99

Larry Wildman wrote: »

People saying that Di Maria can play in midfield. You couldn't make it up. How about signing players who we actually need?

A joke.

We're Manchester United, not Stoke City, yet people are carrying on like the signing of a Real Madrid reject is the Second Coming. Parochial small town stuff.

The club is donald ducked.

Hahaha. Another good one, larry.

BigBabyTaylor

bangkok wrote: »

fine...its 99.9% a done deal

Thats not what I'm saying. You seem to be putting your faith in a journalist who has a reputation for talking out of his arse. I would be amazed if a journalist had all the information he has. Apparently he knows the fee, when the deal will be done, the wages and the number he will wear in the squad. Unless he is currently in the negotiation room himself I think there is a lot of guess work with what he is saying.

We could well be on the verge of signing Di Maria I honestly have no idea but I dont think Balague knows either. I don't like the idea of people taking his word as gospel.

bangkok

we are about to sign ANGEL DI MARIA our new NO7 and some are still not happy!!!!!!!!! :eek:

ElChe32

ElChe32 wrote: »

If Ed pulls this off

Pulling off now!!

Pro. F

bangkok wrote: »

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/9437202/manchester-united-close-on-real-madrid-and-argentina-winger-angel-di-maria

lol Balague

bangkok

Pro. F wrote: »

lol Balague

lol what?

magnumbud

Larry Wildman wrote: »

People saying that Di Maria can play in midfield. You couldn't make it up. How about signing players who we actually need?

A joke.

We're Manchester United, not Stoke City, yet people are carrying on like the signing of a Real Madrid reject is the Second Coming. Parochial small town stuff.

The club is donald ducked.

would you be this angry if we signed sami khedira???? hes another real madrid reject :rolleyes:

if we do do it signing di maria does not have any barring on signing anyone else

LostBoy101

Guillem Balagué seems to be the Sky Sports source.. christ I guess I won't get my hopes up.