Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Mod Note in OP, 25/08

TheTownie

Buddy Holly wrote: »

All the Adidas money is dependent on us getting into the champions league next season and winning the league within 3 years.

If Utd fail to qualify for CL, the amount per year drops by 30%. If they qualify again it reverts back to £75M.

If Utd win the League, CL or FA Cup they receive an extra £4M.

Tell me how that means Utd losing "all the Adidas money"?

billyhead

kryogen wrote: »

Jesus Christ the club will never do right in some eyes you know, "just go spend the ****ing money! Get the world class talent in!" Who cares how much he would cost we need players!!!!!!! " "**** sake the club is desperate, what a waste of money, no player is worth that much" etc etc etc

Theres some moaney ****s posting on this forum that are never happy. As Kryogen said its not your or my money. In order to get back to the pinnacle of English football we need to bring in world class talent. I'm sure LVG knows what hes doing and were the weak points in the team are.

Christy Browne

There's a lot of talk of us signing two more players after Di Maria. Blind and another apparently. Why is everyone acting like Di Maria is the be all and end all? Just because he's signed doesn't mean we can't improve midfield, he's just a bonus.

NTMK

RayCun wrote: »

Source?

ogden iirc

theres a 20mill penalty for no cl 2 seasons in a row (this season doesnt count) and no requirement of to win the PL (4mill bonus for winning any of the major trophies)

Mantis Toboggan

RayCun wrote: »

Source?

Look it up for yourself, I'm on the beer.
You hardly thought they gave us all that money without it being dependent on results?
Champions league qualification is a must or things will turn sour quickly.

0028673

Mr Alan wrote: »

It's a statement of intent alright. And DiMaria is a smashing player.

However without considerable improvements to midfield & Utd's defence, you'll continue to struggle just like last season, despite having spent an insane amount of money.

I'm a Liverpool fan Alan like yourself.

I agree United need reinforcements in other areas, and Di Maria signing only aid them in convincing other players about the project. I'm expecting that United will do more Business before the window ends.

Deiseboy01

Coat22 wrote: »

You found out on the Radio 1 sportsnews at 1.30 that Man UTd had signed Andy Cole

That was huge, he'd scored forty odd goals the season before, I heard on the radio and stayed up until 2am to get the early edition if the Star to read all about it. 24 Spar in Ranelagh, god I feel so old!

user2011

I'm touched by the concern from opposition fans about United spending tens of millions £'s €'s on the wrong type of player. :cool:

fuzzydunlop85

Just in from work and can't be araed sifting through all these posts what's the latest on di Maria ? Anything concrete ? People here seem to be talking like its a done deal.

K4t

Di Maria - Excellent player but once again ignoring the real issues, similar to the Mata signing (I know that was Moyes and this is LVG but the point is still a credible one).

This is what is actually needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EgNLzbdya8

If I had any say whatsoever over the club's transfer spending I'd place it all on this guy. Southampton have been raided this summer of their 'stars' yet their best all round footballer still remains and he just so happens to play in the role that we so desperately need to fill, a defensive midfielder who had the most tackles and interceptions of any midfielder in the league last season and scored five times. Only 24 as well.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/stats-zone-premier-league-central-midfielder-year

NTMK

fuzzydunlop85 wrote: »

Just in from work and can't be araed sifting through all these posts what's the latest on di Maria ? Anything concrete ? People here seem to be talking like its a done deal.

Lots of concrete sky are running that hes on the verge of joining united and various journos are backing it up

Kerrydude1981

fuzzydunlop85 wrote: »

Just in from work and can't be araed sifting through all these posts what's the latest on di Maria ? Anything concrete ? People here seem to be talking like its a done deal.

Guillem Balague broke the news this evening about Di Maria,and its took off from there.

https://twitter.com/GuillemBalague

Smithwicks Man

€60m for Di Maria is a strange one.

Should he be a priority signing? No.
Will he improve the team? Definitely (I'd imagine a change of formation will be happening.)

Is he worth €60m at the minute? Absolutely not. United not being in the Champions League does not make a blind bit of difference to how much they'll have to pay Madrid for the transfer. Why would it? It probably will, however, mean having to pay Di Maria higher wages to convince him to join. When you consider the fact that he has asked to leave Madrid and they no longer need or want him and that there doesn't seem to be anybody else in for him, these things should have given United the leverage in negotiations.

Considering the players circumstances, you should have been paying about 20% less than his value (which I'd currently have at around €50m) not 20% more.



And this talk of €75m plus bonuses? I'll be astounded if United pay that much money for him. Really boggles the mind that yas haven't gone for Vidal when he'd be more beneficial to the team, cost a lot less and have lower wages.

tupac_healy

IrishIrish wrote: »

People really need to get to grips with the difference between Euro and Sterling.

Exactly... One of currency and the other is a **** Liverpool player...


Get the popcorn!

Talib Fiasco

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Guillem Balague broke the news this evening about Di Maria,and its took off from there.

https://twitter.com/GuillemBalague

It was only a few days ago he said something along the lines of PSG and Real were in agreement over Di Maria. I hope for United's sake people aren't just echoing what he is saying...he's been full of sh*t numerous times in the past

Nalz

I'll probably get slated for this, but signing Di Maria feels like buying underfloor heating when there's holes in the roof

TheTownie

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Guillem Balague broke the news this evening about Di Maria,and its took off from there.

https://twitter.com/GuillemBalague

Marca broke it this morning, just nobody believed them.

NTMK

Trilla wrote: »

I'll probably get slated for this, but signing Di Maria feels like buying underfloor heating when there's holes in the roof

i agree but i doubt were done buying yet

Kerrydude1981

K4t wrote: »

Di Maria - Excellent player but once again ignoring the real issues, similar to the Mata signing (I know that was Moyes and this is LVG but the point is still a credible one).

This is what is actually needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EgNLzbdya8

If I had any say whatsoever over the club's transfer spending I'd place it all on this guy. Southampton have been raided this summer of their 'stars' yet their best all round footballer still remains and he just so happens to play in the role that we so desperately need to fill, a defensive midfielder who had the most tackles and interceptions of any midfielder in the league last season and scored five times.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/stats-zone-premier-league-central-midfielder-year

He had a great game at OT last season,the tackle he made on Welbeck was outstanding

DM_7

Trilla wrote: »

I'll probably get slated for this, but signing Di Maria feels like buying underfloor heating when there's holes in the roof

Its okay, Di Maria is the opposite of Spartacus, he banishes rain so you wont get wet and won't even need to turn on your heating :cool:

Vinz Mesrine

Trilla wrote: »

I'll probably get slated for this, but signing Di Maria feels like buying underfloor heating when there's holes in the roof

It's like buying nice shiny alloys while the engine is in bits and the brakes are wrecked.

8-10

tupac_healy wrote: »

Exactly... One of currency and the other is a **** Liverpool player...


Get the popcorn!

Surprised that they censor the word 'sexy'

adox

The house metaphors are bizarre and not in any way needed.

Saying " buying a winger when a central midfielder is needed" kinda does it on a soccer forum.

House metaphors are just plain weird.

The Pontiac

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

€60m for Di Maria is a strange one.

Should he be a priority signing? No.
Will he improve the team? Definitely (I'd imagine a change of formation will be happening.)

Is he worth €60m at the minute? Absolutely not. United not being in the Champions League does not make a blind bit of difference to how much they'll have to pay Madrid for the transfer. Why would it? It probably will, however, mean having to pay Di Maria higher wages to convince him to join. When you consider the fact that he has asked to leave Madrid and they no longer need or want him and that there doesn't seem to be anybody else in for him, these things should have given United the leverage in negotiations.

Considering the players circumstances, you should have been paying about 20% less than his value (which I'd currently have at around €50m) not 20% more.



And this talk of €75m plus bonuses? I'll be astounded if United pay that much money for him. Really boggles the mind that yas haven't gone for Vidal when he'd be more beneficial to the team, cost a lot less and have lower wages.

Are you seriously that out of touch? There's only a handful of clubs that could afford him for starters. I'm not a UTD fan, but Di Maria is one of the best players in the world. Top 5, I reckon.

He's probably the Madrid fan's second favorite player and they're livid he's leaving.

He's 26 years old so easily worth €75m. You've no idea how hard it is to sign this calibre of player.

Nalz

adox wrote: »

The house metaphors are bizarre and not in any way needed.

i'm sorry

adox

All this talk of Madrid not wanting him. Isn't it only the president that doesn't want him and the players and staff are unhappy that he is being let go?

0028673

Trilla wrote: »

I'll probably get slated for this, but signing Di Maria feels like buying underfloor heating when there's holes in the roof

I wonder how much it would take to get Vidal a player United (any team) needs badly.

If United offered £60m I don't think Juve would say no

adox

Trilla wrote: »

i'm sorry

Wasn't a personal dig,sorry, and they have being going on for a few weeks on here.

Nalz

0028673 wrote: »

I wonder how much it would take to get Vidal a player United (any team) needs badly.

If United offered £60m I don't think Juve would say no

Would United pay that, isn't there concerns over his fitness? Having said that whats the alternative?

K4t

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

He had a great game at OT last season,the tackle he made on Welbeck was outstanding

Yeah, he has serious pace too which is a great added attribute for a defensive mf player. I know Arsenal are interested in him and I'm sure Liverpool gave him serious thought during their raid but neither are exactly short in the midfield area. Same goes for Chelsea and City. We wouldn't even have any competition (unless you count spurs lol)

K-9

redbaron_99 wrote: »

Lol at the opposition fans coming in and trying to convince us this is bad business.

Many opposition fans couldn't understand the signing of Mata either, even if Moyes made a balls of it.

£100 Million or whatever it is, is pretty mind blowing money for what many, including plenty of United fans, see as luxury signings. Brilliant signing but depends on the rest of your transfer business yet.

Nalz

adox wrote: »

Wasn't a personal dig,sorry, and they have being going on for a few weeks on here.

Genuinely didn't know that! It does feel like buying something fancy that you don't really need when there's areas that need immediate fixing.

The rumours re Welbeck will grow even more now.

I expect another signing, and 2 or 3 to leave.

DM_7

adox wrote: »

All this talk of Madrid not wanting him. Isn't it only the president that doesn't want him and the players and staff are unhappy that he is being let go?

I think so, Perez is after colombian money, Argentina don't have any money.

Or maybe he just wants to make sure Ancelotti picks James to play.

Fescue

£60 million according to the Guardian. That's a heck of a lot of money. Especially for a player who doesn't score too often. Still a brilliant player but Real must think all their christmas's have come at once.

Vinz Mesrine

DM-ICE wrote: »

I think so, Perez is after colombian money, Argentina don't have any money.

Or maybe he just wants to make sure Ancelotti picks James to play.

Di Maria leaving means they have room in the squad for Falcao.

adox

K-9 wrote: »

Many opposition fans couldn't understand the signing of Mata either, even if Moyes made a balls of it.

£100 Million or whatever it is, is pretty mind blowing money for what many, including plenty of United fans, see as luxury signings. Brilliant signing but depends on the rest of your transfer business yet.

I do think Di Maria(if it happens) while can be seen as a luxury signing, or certainly not a priority isn't comparable to Mata. Mata was bought with top players in his position already at the club. The same certainly can't be said of Di Maria. Plus he has pace to burn, something the team are severely lacking and is more likely to turn a game on his own than Mata.

The Pontiac

Sorry, what does a "luxury signing" mean? First I've heard of it.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Lads were signing Angel Di Maria...hes 26... Madrids second best player after the best player in the world!!! ****ing hell!!! Spend ANY amount on him! Get him done!!!

kryogen

ShoulderChip wrote: »

Honestly?
James is fecking unreal!

Remember when he used to be called Rodriguez and was signing for United?

He is a bit over hyped right now tbf

TheTownie

K-9 wrote: »

Many opposition fans couldn't understand the signing of Mata either, even if Moyes made a balls of it.

£100 Million or whatever it is, is pretty mind blowing money for what many, including plenty of United fans, see as luxury signings. Brilliant signing but depends on the rest of your transfer business yet.

A Di Maria type player is required for Utd just not no1 priority but given its a position that needs addressing, Utd may think they shouldn't pass up the opportunity to sign a winger of that caliber. I'm sure they appreciate CM and CB is more of a priority.

kryogen

Buddy Holly wrote: »

All the Adidas money is dependent on us getting into the champions league next season and winning the league within 3 years.

Wrong.

Actually, I prefer this way of saying it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY

adox

The Pontiac wrote: »

Sorry, what does a "luxury signing" mean? First I've heard of it.

Did you ever buy a luxury item for yourself?

MD1990

What' s going to happen with Mata?. Kagawa will probabaly go back to Dortmund I would think.

Crimson King

See Nani was subbed after 77 mins tonight, anyone know how he played? I see he had a goal disallowed after 63 mins and missed an early peno too but it seems like he was heavily involved. My own personal feelings on his loan is it was a sneaky way of paying Sporting an extra £5 million that they did not have to share with the group who owned Rojo.

Hope the move works for him, although he clearly is not rated by LVG, I still love him when he is on form.

Reedsie

Telegraph going with £60m. New Premiership record (Torres £50m).

They also reckon LVG hopes to sign 3 new players before the window closes.

Negotiations were re-opened on Thursday with United, until that point, having balked at Real's asking price and also Di Maria's personal demands. But despite having opened talk to sign a possible alternative, Shaktar Donetsk's Douglas Costa, United have decided to take the plunge and make an enquiry for Di Maria.

Vinz Mesrine

MrMac84 wrote: »

Lads were signing Angel Di Maria...hes 26... Madrids second best player after the best player in the world!!! ****ing hell!!! Spend ANY amount on him! Get him done!!!

NUTZZ

So the picture that Rojo 'liked' on Instagram is coming to life! :pac:

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The Pontiac

adox wrote: »

Did you ever buy a luxury item for yourself?

Yes I did.

Never heard of football managers buying luxury players mind.

Vinz Mesrine

The Pontiac wrote: »

Yes I did.

Never heard of football managers buying luxury players mind.

Mata
Veron

kryogen

The Pontiac wrote: »

Sorry, what does a "luxury signing" mean? First I've heard of it.

One that would be nice, but not exactly necessary