Farming ChitChat Ploughs On To Five

Greengrass1

Used the welding shield here to look at it.
did the job fine

_Brian

Brother took this snap on his phone through the welding shield at work..

We got an excellent view here at work as the cloud just obscured it enough to watch it without the sun being too strong..

Reggie.

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Used the welding shield here to look at it.
did the job fine

Good thinking

whelan2

whelan2 wrote: »

who do we contact about the maintenance of the fence along the motorway?

the correct way is ring local county council, they log your call and forward it to the contractor, the contractor around here is north link, they are out this morning fixing the fence

whelan2

:eek: http://www.fwi.co.uk/news/intruders-stab-cows-to-death-on-farm.htm

_Brian

Quite a negative article about Dairy Expansion
http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/columnists/victoria-white/increases-in-dairy-herd-and-milk-output-are-a-formula-for-disaster-317850.html?utm_source=androidapp&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=sharebutton

ganmo

_Brian wrote: »

Quite a negative article about Dairy Expansion
http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/columnists/victoria-white/increases-in-dairy-herd-and-milk-output-are-a-formula-for-disaster-317850.html?utm_source=androidapp&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=sharebutton

reads kinda childish

_Brian

_Brian wrote: »

Quite a negative article about Dairy Expansion
http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/columnists/victoria-white/increases-in-dairy-herd-and-milk-output-are-a-formula-for-disaster-317850.html?utm_source=androidapp&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=sharebutton

ganmo wrote: »

reads kinda childish

Indeed..
I agree that the misinformed promotion of bottle feeding in developing nations is a problem.. But it's harsh to blame Ireland's dairy expansion.

Kovu

Mum won't open the fridge here without shutting her eyes as I've a vacuum packed beef heart sitting on the shelf. Surprised she hasn't noticed the tongue yet......


*goes to chase mum around the kitchen with heifer's tongue*

Reggie.

Kovu wrote: »

Mum won't open the fridge here without shutting her eyes as I've a vacuum packed beef heart sitting on the shelf. Surprised she hasn't noticed the tongue yet......


*goes to chase mum around the kitchen with heifer's tongue*

Do we really have to go through this again

tanko

onyerbikepat wrote: »

Jalex Dispersal Sale.

http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/jalex-dispersing-commercial-cows-250-head-export/8829010?offset=1

Anyone heading to this with an empty trailer and a blank cheque?

AntrimGlens

tanko wrote: »

Anyone heading to this with an empty trailer and a blank cheque?

Won't be going with either. Have a few Swartland Eddie straws in the tank and that'll do me.

onyerbikepat

tanko wrote: »

Anyone heading to this with an empty trailer and a blank cheque?

I never knew that Nelson Alexander of the Tractor crowd were the owners of the Jalex herd.

Kovu

tanko wrote: »

Anyone heading to this with an empty trailer and a blank cheque?

Are you going yourself tanko?

tanko

Kovu wrote: »

Are you going yourself tanko?

Nope, won't be going, it's a bit far away. I've twelve cows/heifers with their time up here, I'll have to make do with looking at them for the next two weeks. Waiting on KJB calves, they're in no hurry to arrive so far.

CowMeister

Lads what would ye pay for a good second hand ai flask?? Going to look at one and want a rough price.

tanko

CowMeister wrote: »

Lads what would ye pay for a good second hand ai flask?? Going to look at one and want a rough price.

It all depends how old the flask is and how well it has been looked after. They are very easily damaged and this isn't always obvious by looking at them.
Ai technicians who carry flasks around in the back of jeeps top them up with Nitrogen every day I think because they lose so much being carried about and opened so often. A second hand one of these wouldn't be worth anything for a DIY user who gets the flask topped up every three months.

If you got a fresh one of someone who bought it with the intention of doing their own Ai but gave it up for whatever reason and had looked after the flask well it might be worth a shot.
Have you priced new flasks?

Base price

How long does it take to get a response on a BVD test for a calf. Neighbour got around to tagging the heifer calf on Wednesday evening. I sent the sample in the post yesterday to Oldcastle Labs. The neighbour recommended them.

whelan2

Base price wrote: »

How long does it take to get a response on a BVD test for a calf. Neighbour got around to tagging the heifer calf on Wednesday evening. I sent the sample in the post yesterday to Oldcastle Labs. The neighbour recommended them.

tuesday I reckon

Base price

Thanks Whelan.
BTW the other cow has not calved yet. Her udder is massive at this stage. She is eating, chewing the cud and lying in the sun at every opportunity. I wonder if the service date that I have is wrong - 4/6/14. I even have a question mark against it as I was not sure if he actually bulled her.
Thinking back he was about a year and a half old at the time. He may have had problems reaching this lady as opposed to the smaller JE cow

Kovu

16 days over? Often had them go far longer than that BP. She's just taking her last days of comfort handy

whelan2

Base price wrote: »

Thanks Whelan.
BTW the other cow has not calved yet. Her udder is massive at this stage. She is eating, chewing the cud and lying in the sun at every opportunity. I wonder if the service date that I have is wrong - 4/6/14. I even have a question mark against it as I was not sure if he actually bulled her.
Thinking back he was about a year and a half old at the time. He may have had problems reaching this lady as opposed to the smaller JE cow

cow that was served on 3rd of june calved last night here to aa stock bull , heifer calf

Base price

Kovu wrote: »

16 days over? Often had them go far longer than that BP. She's just taking her last days of comfort handy

Maybe she is just taking her time.
I have had pedigree Blondes calving to AI at 309 days but that was many years ago when Blondes were a relatively new breed in Ireland.

Base price

I took this pic of her on Wed chillaxing in the sun.
Her back quarters have filled up since then.

whelan2

Base price wrote: »

I took this pic of her on Wed chillaxing in the sun.
Her back quarters have filled up since then.

she has a fair springing there

Reggie.

Base price wrote: »

I took this pic of her on Wed chillaxing in the sun.
Her back quarters have filled up since then.

Jaysus she looks like she's ready to burst

Kovu

Base price wrote: »

I took this pic of her on Wed chillaxing in the sun.
Her back quarters have filled up since then.

Crikey! I'd be checking for a pulse if I seen that :D I'll guess Sunday at 5.37 a.m.

whelan2

Kovu wrote: »

Crikey! I'd be checking for a pulse if I seen that :D I'll guess Sunday at 5.37 a.m.

i'll go for saturday

AntrimGlens

CowMeister wrote: »

Lads what would ye pay for a good second hand ai flask?? Going to look at one and want a rough price.

Don't bother. You'll never know if it's working properly until you have it a while. Vacuum is easily lost if it's been knocked over or accidentally damaged. All it takes is for a weld to let go inside and it will dry out before you know it. The only way you'll really know is by filling it with nitrogen and weighting it on a daily basis to see if it's loosing weight. What make is it?

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

i'll go for saturday

I'll go Monday before midday

CowMeister

tanko wrote: »

It all depends how old the flask is and how well it has been looked after. They are very easily damaged and this isn't always obvious by looking at them.
Ai technicians who carry flasks around in the back of jeeps top them up with Nitrogen every day I think because they lose so much being carried about and opened so often. A second hand one of these wouldn't be worth anything for a DIY user who gets the flask topped up every three months.

If you got a fresh one of someone who bought it with the intention of doing their own Ai but gave it up for whatever reason and had looked after the flask well it might be worth a shot.
Have you priced new flasks?

Havnt priced new flasks yet. The farmer who owns it is winding down. Getting out of sucklers and into cattle. He said it's 5 years old and in perfect working order. So at what price would it be worth a shot at.

tanko

CowMeister wrote: »

Havnt priced new flasks yet. The farmer who owns it is winding down. Getting out of sucklers and into cattle. He said it's 5 years old and in perfect working order. So at what price would it be worth a shot at.

I honestly don't know. I bought a new flask fifteen years ago, I've never moved it since, it's still working the best (touch wood). I can't remember how much it cost.
I suppose it all depends if you trust this lad. It would be a real sickner to buy a second hand flask, put hundreds of euro worth of straws into it and for it to fail then. You'd really need to make sure it's working ok before putting straws into it.
How much is he looking for it?

CowMeister

AntrimGlens wrote: »

Don't bother. You'll never know if it's working properly until you have it a while. Vacuum is easily lost if it's been knocked over or accidentally damaged. All it takes is for a weld to let go inside and it will dry out before you know it. The only way you'll really know is by filling it with nitrogen and weighting it on a daily basis to see if it's loosing weight. What make is it?

I dont know what make it. Are some makes to be avoided???

AntrimGlens

CowMeister wrote: »

I dont know what make it. Are some makes to be avoided???

If its a Taylor Wharton then a new one is £420 stg. They would be the best flask and the one all the Ai men use. Other makes are available cheaper but not as durable and long lasting.

tanko

AntrimGlens wrote: »

If its a Taylor Wharton then a new one is £420 stg. They would be the best flask and the one all the Ai men use. Other makes are available cheaper but not as durable and long lasting.

Just checked mine, it's a Taylor Wharton XT 20. One thing I don't like about it is that the goblets aren't that securely held in place at the top. When I pull one up out of the nitrogen, it's inclined to dislodge the rest of them. I think later models might have been better designed. Apart from that it's been good.
If a new flask can be got for £420 I wouldn't be buying a second hand one.

CowMeister

tanko wrote: »

I honestly don't know. I bought a new flask fifteen years ago, I've never moved it since, it's still working the best (touch wood). I can't remember how much it cost.
I suppose it all depends if you trust this lad. It would be a real sickner to buy a second hand flask, put hundreds of euro worth of straws into it and for it to fail then. You'd really need to make sure it's working ok before putting straws into it.
How much is he looking for it?

Looking for 400. But I'm sure I'll bargain him down a bit. There not much difference in the price of s new one and the price he is looking for. So I would be better off buying a new one then

freedominacup

CowMeister wrote: »

Looking for 400. But I'm sure I'll bargain him down a bit. There not much difference in the price of s new one and the price he is looking for. So I would be better off buying a new one then

Leave it where it is. We got a "great" deal on a second hand flask a few years ago. It was very expensive a few months later when it dried with a couple of grands worth of straws in it. Buy new and go with a good brand. Tankos one looks very cheap. 20quid a year. We've had two dry here over the years and there's no insurance to cover them.

Milked out

The issue with second hand flasks is if they have been left go empty, as the vessel will expand and then when refilled it contracts and could cause it to leak. If you get a flask keep the nitrogen in it even if there are no straws in it. Bought second hand here when I did the course and flask only lasted 2 years and it wasn't moved once. You can monitor the level with the metre stick, the first one we had dropped faster than normal so cost more in nitrogen as needed and extra fill or two in the year

Farrell

Milked out wrote: »

The issue with second hand flasks is if they have been left go empty, as the vessel will expand and then when refilled it contracts and could cause it to leak. If you get a flask keep the nitrogen in it even if there are no straws in it. Bought second hand here when I did the course and flask only lasted 2 years and it wasn't moved once. You can monitor the level with the metre stick, the first one we had dropped faster than normal so cost more in nitrogen as needed and extra fill or two in the year

Does it cost much to maintain the flasks?

Farrell

Base price wrote: »

How long does it take to get a response on a BVD test for a calf. Neighbour got around to tagging the heifer calf on Wednesday evening. I sent the sample in the post yesterday to Oldcastle Labs. The neighbour recommended them.

Sent to enfer on Wednesday, got the results there now

tanko

Farrell wrote: »

Does it cost much to maintain the flasks?

It costs around €200 to get the flask topped up with liquid nitrogen four times a year. Dovea will do it for €175 if you pay by direct debit and buy €200 (I think) worth of straws every three years off them.

Kovu

Forgot to tell you yesterday Tanko, the Jalex Herd are on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JalexHerd. Dunno if they'll update it with every price but may be a good place to keep an eye out for prices from that sale.

tanko

Thanks, I see he has ten Sim heifers with dim calves, one of them would suit me:D

Reggie.

Jaysus what a day. Flat out here at slurry. Getting great coverage and the ground is holding up great. Two 2000 gal tankers flat out here.

Smashing weather today for it. I'd nearly chance the t shirt . It would almost make a contrary auld git like me happy for a few mins

whelan2

Base price wrote: »

Maybe she is just taking her time.
I have had pedigree Blondes calving to AI at 309 days but that was many years ago when Blondes were a relatively new breed in Ireland.

any sign yet?

Farrell

tanko wrote: »

It costs around €200 to get the flask topped up with liquid nitrogen four times a year. Dovea will do it for €175 if you pay by direct debit and buy €200 (I think) worth of straws every three years off them.

Allot of money for DIY, unless you've big numbers or allot of purebreds

tanko

Farrell wrote: »

Allot of money for DIY, unless you've big numbers or allot of purebreds

DIY Ai
Say 30 cows x €12 per straw = €360, €200 for Nitrogen, Flask cost €550/15 years = €37, cost of Ai course €350??/15 = €23
Cost per year = €620 per year.

Ai technician
30 cows x €31 = €930 per year

These figures are a bit rough but not too far out I think.

tanko

Do any of ye know Sean o Brien aka "the tullow tank". He's some man:)

I said

tanko wrote: »

Do any of ye know Sean o Brien aka "the tullow tank". He's some man:)

Does he post on this forum?

Genghis Cant

I said wrote: »

Does he post on this forum?

Maybe he'll Try :-)