Shed painters/ scrap collectors

whisky_galore

Not much good came from anything sold door-to-door, be that gates, tools or religion (Jehovahs, I don't know why they even bother)

visatorro

in this evening with 151 silver transit. cheeky ba####d just plain refused to leave. followed me into a calf shed then. took me ten minutes to get rid of him.

Mad4simmental

Same lad in the Vw sells around Laois all the time. They are two brothers from Wexford and very dodgy fcukers. They asked my nabourgh out onto the road for a chat with a hammer after he refused to buy off them. Very pushy boyos.

They continued down the road & called into a gentleman bachelor who fired sum lead overhead and they haven't been around for a month or two ha.

Feckthis

If anyone has a visit from a guy with highway maintenance plastered on his 141 hilux pick up. He advertises shed painting. Stay well away from him. He got deported back to ireland from Austraila recently.

AntrimGlens

Feckthis wrote: »

If anyone has a visit from a guy with highway maintenance plastered on his 141 hilux pick up. He advertises shed painting. Stay well away from him. He got deported back to ireland from Austraila recently.

Was he by any chance doing "roofing" work in Perth?

Feckthis

AntrimGlens wrote: »

Was he by any chance doing "roofing" work in Perth?

Not sure what he was at over there but the Aussies didn't want him there.

onyerbikepat

Isn't it crazy the way they are allowed deport criminals from one country to the next, without them having to serve time where they committed the crimes.
Like Wayne Dundon, back in 1997, kicked out of the UK. All he did was attack the elderly. He threw an elderly woman in a wheelchair down a flight of stairs and badly beat another 75-year-old woman while stealing her pension book.:(

cjpm

onyerbikepat wrote: »

.... All he did was....

All he did!!

MFdaveIreland

had a lad up north last weekend , 10 big gates for £1000, think uncle took a few of him, lord knows where they were acquired.

whisky_galore

MFdaveIreland wrote: »

had a lad up north last weekend , 10 big gates for £1000, think uncle took a few of him, lord knows where they were acquired.

All the more reason people shouldn't support this 'industry' or give these guys the time of day.

Reggie.

MFdaveIreland wrote: »

had a lad up north last weekend , 10 big gates for £1000, think uncle took a few of him, lord knows where they were acquired.

Few gaps wide open now around the country

onyerbikepat

cjpm wrote: »

All he did!!

mf240

MFdaveIreland wrote: »

had a lad up north last weekend , 10 big gates for £1000, think uncle took a few of him, lord knows where they were acquired.

If people didnt buy of them they wouldnt be rewarded for tgere activities

Most of the time when there in selling there looking around to see how vunerable people are. Have they dogs , lights, do they live alone ect. Dont take your eyes off them untill they leave your premises and dont buy anything from them. If you have anything valuable that they have spotted move it.

whisky_galore

mf240 wrote: »

If people didnt buy of them they wouldnt be rewarded for tgere activities

This.

For you it might be a gate or power tool or whatever cheaper than you might get otherwise at the expense of someone else. Wheel is always turning, you might be next in line for a covert visit when you're out of the yard.

MFdaveIreland

True lads, i dont agree with it at all, and i wouldnt have been talking with themnever mind dealing with them,

is it true if you cut them in two, they stay alive, or is that earth worms?...

st1979

What lads do you have calling. all I see them selling is new stuff. New gates (lightly made but suits some jobs) or new tools (cheap Chinese stuff you can buy on ebay). I have yet to see stolen stuff.
In fact I sold them lads 2 trailers that needed doing up and once deal was done they kept to there word no whinging. I've sold stuff to many a farmer who has no concept of a deal being a deal.

Willfarman

st1979 wrote: »

What lads do you have calling. all I see them selling is new stuff. New gates (lightly made but suits some jobs) or new tools (cheap Chinese stuff you can buy on ebay). I have yet to see stolen stuff.
In fact I sold them lads 2 trailers that needed doing up and once deal was done they kept to there word no whinging. I've sold stuff to many a farmer who has no concept of a deal being a deal.

Ah you'll learn...

st1979

Well to the guy who was offered the gates at 100 euro. we're they new or second hand. If new they are highly unlikely to be stolen. They were just cheap cause they are made of lighter stuff and I reckon no vat was paid as I think most of them come from the north and I believe they give false vat numbers (sometimes they give glanbia vat number. which I heard from one of the top glanbia agri business guys)
I have no doubt they rob. I was robbed myself by lads in pickup type van who took scrap and took off with out paying. but that was lads from my local town who are just scumbags with no traveller connections.
I can't believe I am sticking up for travellers But I have had little problems with them.

have2flushtwice

there is one regular guy that comes to us, dad buys small hand tools off him, nothing too expensive.
I bought a petrol power washer off him for 100 quid before - working away!
he sells safety gear too, anything you want. all we would buy is boots and gloves, nothing else.

none others call around. need a few gates though. stock in our place aren't heavy so light gates are not an issue.

whisky_galore

st1979 wrote: »

Well to the guy who was offered the gates at 100 euro. we're they new or second hand. If new they are highly unlikely to be stolen. They were just cheap cause they are made of lighter stuff and I reckon no vat was paid as I think most of them come from the north and I believe they give false vat numbers (sometimes they give glanbia vat number. which I heard from one of the top glanbia agri business guys)
I have no doubt they rob. I was robbed myself by lads in pickup type van who took scrap and took off with out paying. but that was lads from my local town who are just scumbags with no traveller connections.
I can't believe I am sticking up for travellers But I have had little problems with them.

Yeah like tax evasion is a victimless crime.

djmc

Unfortunately I have had trouble with them more than once
I know they are not all bad but the few that are at the scamming and robbing are making it hard for the lads that are genuine
I have been burnt too many times now that I will only deal with a legitimate company with a fixed landline and address vat number printed on invoice and would have come recommend from someone I know.
Will not deal with canvassers anymore whether they are buying or selling I had a pushy guy in the yard one day trying to get me to sell old machinery that didn't understand the word no l asked him if he saw it advertised for sale somewhere and told him he didn't because it not for sale
Gave him direction to nearest agri machinery sales garage and gave him the road didn't see him since

have2flushtwice

whisky_galore wrote: »

Yeah like tax evasion is a victimless crime.

water protesters go to Jail, Bankers don't.

MFdaveIreland

give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank,

give a man a bank, and he can rob the world...

tramps

farawaygrass

God lads buy yer stuff of local merchant if ya can, look at all he employs/spends/sponsors in locality. Look after you own. I do feel sorry for the genuine travelling salesman but I'mt experience the bad guys out-number the good. They are always trying to get one over on you.
We bought gates a few years back, looked grand and heavy, galvanised and all. They weren't through the first winter and the galvanise was coming off. If they were bought in local merchants I would have some comeback bit where was my buck-gone abroad selling on the road. Imagine even going back looking for something to be do about it, I know I wouldn't get anywhere. Plus you can put legitimate bought gates in as expenses. You think you might be saving a few bob but at the end of the day how much really? Plus, if you don't entertain them they soon get the message not to call. Even for peace of mind that has to be worth alot

whisky_galore

Only last week had some guy come around with a van under the guise of buying and selling furniture, was asking older people if they 'lived on their own' and pretending to know them from working in a furniture shop in town, that he clearly had nothing to do with.

Pacoa

water protesters go to Jail, Bankers don't.

Water protesters don't go to jail, people who break the law do.

mf240

Pacoa wrote: »

Water protesters don't go to jail, people who break the law do.

They would have a well dug with a spade since they started their little campaign.

The thing that would annoy me about the whole thing is the way finna fail are using it to gain points. Yet when they were in power and there was money everywhere they could of fixed all the water infrastrute and brought it up to a first class standard but they never invested anything in it.

farawaygrass

Whatever ye do don't go buying water off the travelling salesmen-no matter what kinda deal they given you

tanko

Pacoa wrote: »

Water protesters don't go to jail, people who break the law do.

Rubbish, lots of people who break the law in this banana republic are never punished because they know the right people.

farawaygrass

tanko wrote: »

Rubbish, lots of people who break the law in this banana republic are never punished because they know the right people.

True but that is the same in every country. It's human nature, look after those who look after you. It will never change.

coconnellz

uncle of mine stupidly I know got caught with these con men selling gates. Payed 500 euro for 4 gates came back following week telling him that "the EU said gates coats are dangerous and theirs a manufacturer recall" he assured him that he get new gates in few days but never arrived.

sea12

coconnellz wrote: »

uncle of mine stupidly I know got caught with these con men selling gates. Payed 500 euro for 4 gates came back following week telling him that "the EU said gates coats are dangerous and theirs a manufacturer recall" he assured him that he get new gates in few days but never arrived.

Jeez no offence but he must have been harmless to fall for that.,

zetecescort

whisky_galore wrote: »

Only last week had some guy come around with a van under the guise of buying and selling furniture, was asking older people if they 'lived on their own' and pretending to know them from working in a furniture shop in town, that he clearly had nothing to do with.

lads in a plain white van called to an elderly neighbour a few weeks ago claiming to be from the ESB and looking for money upfront to trim branches near overhead lines. no doubt they were working their way up the road calling to every house

Reggie.

zetecescort wrote: »

lads in a plain white van called to an elderly neighbour a few weeks ago claiming to be from the ESB and looking for money upfront to trim branches near overhead lines. no doubt they were working their way up the road calling to every house

That's a free service but I'm sure you know that

zetecescort

Reggie. wrote: »

That's a free service but I'm sure you know that

yep, similar with the phone lines too

Askim

whisky_galore wrote: »

Only last week had some guy come around with a van under the guise of buying and selling furniture, was asking older people if they 'lived on their own' and pretending to know them from working in a furniture shop in town, that he clearly had nothing to do with.

Tell them " no I don't like a lone, the brother is out the back giving the doberman his weekly feed,, hop in that van fair quick, he got out last week and the postman is still in hospital"

A

onyerbikepat

The right thing to do with these guys is take a photo of them on you phone. Once they know you have their photo, they sure as hell wont do anything dodgy in the area for some time.

gozunda

onyerbikepat wrote: »

The right thing to do with these guys is take a photo of them on you phone. Once they know you have their photo, they sure as hell wont do anything dodgy in the area for some time.

One thing if you notice that the men never appear on the various TV programmes etc. Their faces are either blanked out or backs are turned. You are right - the one thing that gets a reaction is taking the phone out and taking a photo. They move fairly sharpish then.

tripperman

had a lad call today to sell gates and tools again,its same lad four times since october and swore blind he was never here before, he got ran for a fifth time then he called me all the c***s and b******s under the sun

have2flushtwice

tripperman wrote: »

had a lad call today to sell gates and tools again,its same lad four times since october and swore blind he was never here before, he got ran for a fifth time then he called me all the c***s and b******s under the sun

I heard a statue of the virgim mary frightens them
One garden centre in newport was getting fleeced by these lads taking garden ornaments

She put a statue at the front and next time they called they dropped to their knees and prayed

No more hassle after that.

Willfarman

A holy water cannon is the weapon of choice now!

Reggie.

Willfarman wrote: »

A holy water cannon is the weapon of choice now!

Holy rifle more like

gozunda

Reggie. wrote: »

Holy rifle more like

I hear that lead is a very popular scrap metal.

onyerbikepat

I was talking to a guard at the weekend and he was telling me that the latest thing now is young guys, either raised on farms or working on them, stealing farm machinery. Selling them then on-line.

whisky_galore

onyerbikepat wrote: »

I was talking to a guard at the weekend and he was telling me that the latest thing now is young guys, either raised on farms or working on them, stealing farm machinery. Selling them then on-line.

Young lad near me was stealing electric fencers and did just that. Got rumbled by someone who he had stolen from.

whisky_galore

have2flushtwice wrote: »

I heard a statue of the virgim mary frightens them
One garden centre in newport was getting fleeced by these lads taking garden ornaments

She put a statue at the front and next time they called they dropped to their knees and prayed

No more hassle after that.

Someone mentioned on another forum that one of them stole a handbag but couldn't prove it that they took it, until a comment was made along the lines of 'you'll have no luck with that'....they pleaded for them to take back the comment and the handbag was returned very swiftly afterwards.

foxy farmer

whisky_galore wrote: »

Young lad near me was stealing electric fencers and did just that. Got rumbled by someone who he had stolen from.

We've a family emptying oil tanks here. One of them Got caught twice red handed in the same place by the farmer but let him go as they have relations all around him. Was afraid of repercussions. Personally I'd give them the business end of my Harrington and Richardson.

Aenaes

whisky_galore wrote: »

Someone mentioned on another forum that one of them stole a handbag but couldn't prove it that they took it, until a comment was made along the lines of 'you'll have no luck with that'....they pleaded for them to take back the comment and the handbag was returned very swiftly afterwards.

Heh, a man we know works nights. He was woken one afternoon by banging at his front door. He gets up and sees a lad walking around the back of his house and back towards the front. He goes to the front door and there's a van driving to the exit. He either had a pen and paper or his phone because the van stops and the driver gets out and tells him to "not take my number, I'm a legitimate businessman".

House owner asks why were they at the back of the house, they denied it. Then they try selling tools or other such stuff. House owner says he's not interested. The salesmen then ask, "what's a fine man like you doing in bed all day?"
As the salesmen were leaving they told him they hope he has no luck, houseowner replies "and you too". The salesmen stopped in their tracks and asked him to take it back.

Playground stuff.

Reggie.

foxy farmer wrote: »

We've a family emptying oil tanks here. One of them Got caught twice red handed in the same place by the farmer but let him go as they have relations all around him. Was afraid of repercussions. Personally I'd give them the business end of my Harrington and Richardson.

That's was happening here too. There was a theory who was at it tho. One oil tank was "sabotaged" for the next time. Strange that shortly after a certain locals tractor engine started to give bother :rolleyes:

tripperman

i remember two years ago i thought the meal was going very quickly here and lorry driver thought the same, had ordered a bin at the time and but put new locks on the old store all the same and so decided i would wait up for my culprit i hide in the shed, but i wasnt alone i moved the stock bull in to it for the night and at 1:15 am my man arrived and found the door locked and he then heard a noise in the straw he ran quicker then usain bolt when he relised it was the bull and bull took after him, he never lifted off us again