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Permanent Residency FAQ

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    #182
    Lorne Malvo
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Lorne Malvo


    OneColdHand wrote: »
    Apologies if this is a silly/obvious question, but can you apply for an Express Entry from outside Canada?

    Express Entry is the system used by CIC for permanent resident applications.

    System being the key word.

    So yes.


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    #183
    OneColdHand
    Registered Users Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    Wondering if someone can clarify something.

    I submitted my express entry application last night. I got a message almost immediately telling me that I was no longer eligible for the express entry. Is that just a temporary error while my application is checked? I don't see any reason why I wouldn't be eligible. I have the following:

    - over 10 years experience in my field
    - a Bachelors Degree
    - a recent English test
    - will have over $20,000 when moving to Canada

    I think when it asked if I have an ECA, I said 'no' as my ECA is just being processed at the minute. Could that be the thing that's throwing it off?


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    #184
    circular flexing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    OneColdHand wrote: »
    I think when it asked if I have an ECA, I said 'no' as my ECA is just being processed at the minute. Could that be the thing that's throwing it off?

    Yes, if you have no recent Canadian work experience, then you need a complete ECA before you can apply for Express Entry.


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    #185
    OneColdHand
    Registered Users Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    circular flexing wrote: »
    Yes, if you have no recent Canadian work experience, then you need a complete ECA before you can apply for Express Entry.

    Thanks for the quick reply.

    Yeah I have 2 years Canadian work experience, but it was over 4 years ago, so I don't think that counts!


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    #186
    circular flexing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    OneColdHand wrote: »
    Thanks for the quick reply.

    Yeah I have 2 years Canadian work experience, but it was over 4 years ago, so I don't think that counts!

    Yeah it has to be within the last 3 years for it to count.


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    #187
    OneColdHand
    Registered Users Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    I've asked a few questions here and I appreciate the help.

    I have another one: Can I enter Canada (on a tourist visa), while the express entry is being processed?


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    #188
    circular flexing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    OneColdHand wrote: »
    I've asked a few questions here and I appreciate the help.

    I have another one: Can I enter Canada (on a tourist visa), while the express entry is being processed?

    Yep that's allowed. Just make sure you have a return ticket and enough money to fund your trip.


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    #189
    Uggs123
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Uggs123


    Hi everyone. Im looking for advice on becoming sponsored through my spouse for permanent residency. We are both currently living in ireland. My husband got his pr approved last year and we are hoping to go to canada this year.
    It seems that he needs to be in canada to sponsor me and i can apply through outland application. Is there any way that i can join him over there while my application is being processed? And if so could I work?
    Thanks


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    #190
    circular flexing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    Uggs123 wrote: »
    Hi everyone. Im looking for advice on becoming sponsored through my spouse for permanent residency. We are both currently living in ireland. My husband got his pr approved last year and we are hoping to go to canada this year.
    It seems that he needs to be in canada to sponsor me and i can apply through outland application. Is there any way that i can join him over there while my application is being processed? And if so could I work?
    Thanks

    Were you married or had you been living together for more than a year before your husband got PR? Has he entered Canada as PR yet?


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    #191
    Uggs123
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Uggs123


    circular flexing wrote: »
    Were you married or had you been living together for more than a year before your husband got PR? Has he entered Canada as PR yet?

    We have lived together for 6 years. We got married last month. We were both in canada under the IEC visa from 2014-2016. My husband got pr approved in july 2016 and he went to canada to activate it but has not been over since to work.


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    #192
    circular flexing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    Uggs123 wrote: »
    We have lived together for 6 years. We got married last month. We were both in canada under the IEC visa from 2014-2016. My husband got pr approved in july 2016 and he went to canada to activate it but has not been over since to work.

    Did he include you at all in his PR application?


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    #193
    Uggs123
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Uggs123


    circular flexing wrote: »
    Did he include you at all in his PR application?

    No he just put his own name on it. It was apparently quicker to do so.


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    #194
    circular flexing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    Uggs123 wrote: »
    No he just put his own name on it. It was apparently quicker to do so.

    Unfortunately you're kind of screwed.

    You should have been included as a common law partner and done a medical etc.. It wouldn't have made any difference to processing times, just would have required you to produce police certs and have a medical.

    Now that he has landed as PR, he cannot sponsor you at all. Canada immigration has a rule that all family members that can be sponsored for PR have to be included on the initial application or else they can never be sponsored.

    You should consult with an Immigration Lawyer asap if you still wish to move to Canada.


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    #195
    Uggs123
    Registered Users Posts: 17 ✭Uggs123


    circular flexing wrote: »
    Unfortunately you're kind of screwed.

    You should have been included as a common law partner and done a medical etc.. It wouldn't have made any difference to processing times, just would have required you to produce police certs and have a medical.

    Now that he has landed as PR, he cannot sponsor you at all. Canada immigration has a rule that all family members that can be sponsored for PR have to be included on the initial application or else they can never be sponsored.

    You should consult with an Immigration Lawyer asap if you still wish to move to Canada.

    We didnt live together for the full 12 months prior to him filling out his application. And he hasnt moved to canada yet to work.
    Does this make a difference?


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    #196
    circular flexing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    Uggs123 wrote: »
    We didnt live together for the full 12 months prior to him filling out his application. And he hasnt moved to canada yet to work.
    Does this make a difference?

    Possibly. I think it would depend on the circumstances (which is why consulting an immigration lawyer is an excellent idea).

    In any case it's not just the date that he filled out the application that matters, it's everything up to the date that he landed. So if at any point during the process you passed the 12 month threshold then he should have mentioned this when landing (part of the landing process is declaring that nothing material has changed with your application).

    Assuming that he could sponsor you, then he would need to move to Canada first (PRs can only sponsor from within Canada). You would then submit the application. Once first stage has passed (Sponsor approval), you could potentially move to Canada as a visitor but you wouldn't be able to work. There is no work permit option with the outland spousal application.


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    #197
    sashafierce
    Registered Users Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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    #198
    Lorne Malvo
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Lorne Malvo


    Google Express Entry; Its free but you may require various exams/certs that cost money; eg police certs/medical/language tests ete.
    If you type 'Express Entry' into the search bar on www.cic.gc.ca it has a structured breakdown of all that is required.[font=arial, sans-serif]  [/font]


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    #199
    Talkinghands87
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭Talkinghands87


    Lorne Malvo wrote: »
    Google Express Entry; Its free but you may require various exams/certs that cost money; eg police certs/medical/language tests ete.
    If you type 'Express Entry' into the search bar on www.cic.gc.ca it has a structured breakdown of all that is required.[font=arial, sans-serif]  [/font]

    So it's still an option to apply even though in not there anymore? Do you know from the day of applying to actually going how long you have?


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    #200
    Lorne Malvo
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Lorne Malvo


    Talkinghands87 wrote: »
    Lorne Malvo wrote: »
    Google Express Entry; Its free but you may require various exams/certs that cost money; eg police certs/medical/language tests ete.
    If you type 'Express Entry' into the search bar on www.cic.gc.ca it has a structured breakdown of all that is required.[font=arial, sans-serif]  [/font]

    So it's still an option to apply even though in not there anymore? Do you know from the day of applying to actually going how long you have?
    If you get accepted (I am unsure of the current time-frame); maybe 9 months from scratch, you will be granted a COPR with an expiration date by which you must make your ''landing''. 
    ''Landing'' being the date you activate your PR.


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    #201
    sashafierce
    Registered Users Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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    #202
    Tiddlypeeps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭Tiddlypeeps


    sashafierce wrote: »
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    Anybody can apply for PR, you don't have to have ever lived in Canada. Even if you have lived in Canada for a number of years you may still not qualify for PR. Express entry is a points based system and having lived in Canada for a time only gives you a few extra points.

    They have a survey on the website that takes all your info and determines what the best approach to qualifying for PR might be.

    https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/come-canada-tool.html


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    #203
    sashafierce
    Registered Users Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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    #204
    Tiddlypeeps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭Tiddlypeeps


    sashafierce wrote: »
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    Having lived in Canada previously isn't a hard requirement for PR. That survey only tells you possible avenues for entry so it will only ask questions regarding hard requirements.


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    #205
    sashafierce
    Registered Users Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


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    #206
    circular flexing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    sashafierce wrote: »
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    There is no consequence.

    No age limit but the amount of points you get for age goes down as you get older.


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    #207
    SimpleLogic
    Registered Users Posts: 663 ✭✭✭SimpleLogic


    The processing time according to the cic site says 8 weeks.

    Obviously above is an average world wide. Just wondering if anyone here could let me know how long it has taken their application to be processed?


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    #208
    circular flexing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    SimpleLogic wrote: »
    The processing time according to the cic site says 8 weeks.

    Obviously above is an average world wide. Just wondering if anyone here could let me know how long it has taken their application to be processed?

    PR applications take on average 6 months to process after you have submitted a full application. Not sure where you are getting 8 weeks from.


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    #209
    SimpleLogic
    Registered Users Posts: 663 ✭✭✭SimpleLogic


    Says 57 days processing time for first time PR card applications from the site I linked. Is this something different?

    Is there somewhere else I should be looking that mentions 6 months?


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    #210
    Tiddlypeeps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭Tiddlypeeps


    SimpleLogic wrote: »
    Says 57 days processing time for first time PR card applications from the site I linked. Is this something different?

    Is there somewhere else I should be looking that mentions 6 months?

    I got mine in January of this year it took 6 months after I got my invitation to apply.

    It's possible 8 weeks is the average time someone is likely to wait from the time they submit their initial express entry application to the time they receive their invitation to apply?


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    #211
    circular flexing
    Registered Users Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    SimpleLogic wrote: »
    Says 57 days processing time for first time PR card applications from the site I linked. Is this something different?

    Is there somewhere else I should be looking that mentions 6 months?

    Yes the PR card is different. When you land in Canada as a PR, that starts the process of producing the PR card. So approx. 57 days after you land, your PR card arrives.

    But the quoted processing time for the document to allow you to land as PR (called Confirmation of Permanent Residency) is 6 months for Express Entry. Some get it in less time, for some it takes more (it took about 7 months for me)

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