What's considered good bhp

Asmooh

HandsomeDan wrote: »

Just leave this here:

" I’ve always found the ‘ickle Mazda slow, imprecise and unsatisfying"

Chris Harris

http://community.evo.co.uk/users/Monkey-Harris/blogs/index.cfm/2011/2/7/CHRIS-HARRIS-The-Mazda-MX-5-is-pants-ducks

sucks your link is old, later he changed his statement and yes you can find this on youtube, he said that he likes the MX5 -NA way more compare to the -NB he was driven at time of the statement.

Foxhole Norman

Back to the original topic, I would consider 130+ or so decent power in a modern car, probably wouldn't go below 150 myself unless it was an older car.

Asmooh

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

Back to the original topic, I would consider 130+ or so decent power in a modern car, probably wouldn't go below 150 myself unless it was an older car.

I don't agree, based on weight of the modern car (lets say 1200-1400 kilos) it does require at least 200hp and 280nm to be "decent"

Foxhole Norman

Asmooh wrote: »

I don't agree, based on weight of the modern car (lets say 1200-1400 kilos) it does require at least 200hp and 280nm to be "decent"

Not for your typical run of the mill family cars, especially seeing as most are Turbo'd these days.

Asmooh

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

Not for your typical run of the mill family cars, especially seeing as most are Turbo'd these days.

dunno... I don't like "family cars" but IF.. it would be 1: a Volvo V70R, Volvo S60R or Audi RS4 / RS6

Foxhole Norman

Asmooh wrote: »

dunno... I don't like "family cars" but IF.. it would be 1: a Volvo V70R, Volvo S60R or Audi RS4 / RS6

Yeah that's fair for us enthusiasts but they're not exactly your typical Family saloon :pac: unless you live in Dubai or something.

HandsomeDan

Asmooh wrote: »

dunno... I don't like "family cars" but IF.. it would be 1: a Volvo V70R, Volvo S60R or Audi RS4 / RS6

If you had to do the family car thing it would be an RS6 etc...

???

Can I remind you you drive a 92 mx worth about a tenner...

charcosull

I have a mini with 39hp (Probably less now). Most fun car I have driven. Weighs about 800kg.

Special Circumstances

LOL at the "Japanese/Korean cars must be derided under any heading possible" cracks again. Always good for a laugh in some posters opinion. Cringe fest to others.
Racial slur / national stereotype within 10 posts surely, going on past threads!

dr.fuzzenstein

HandsomeDan wrote: »

Just leave this here:

" I’ve always found the ‘ickle Mazda slow, imprecise and unsatisfying"

Chris Harris

http://community.evo.co.uk/users/Monkey-Harris/blogs/index.cfm/2011/2/7/CHRIS-HARRIS-The-Mazda-MX-5-is-pants-ducks

It might no the the fastest car out there, but:
Bollocks. Nothing more needs to be said to refute that article.

Asmooh

HandsomeDan wrote: »

If you had to do the family car thing it would be an RS6 etc...

???

Can I remind you you drive a 92 mx worth about a tenner...

yeah.. before I moved to Ireland I had a Porsche Boxster S , 986 a MX5 and a civic Coupe.. what's your point?

HandsomeDan

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frozenfrozen

if you've to worry about the extra person in the passenger seat ruining your power to weight ratio then you need more powah

H3llR4iser

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

It might no the the fastest car out there, but:
Bollocks. Nothing more needs to be said to refute that article.

But, if he said the same about a car made by, uhu, an Italian brand from Milan, like he did recently, he'd be considered an authority

Anyway the "how much bhp" discussion is silly. It makes no sense at all - like many said, it's down to the rest of the car; The bhp only make a difference in a straight line. You can have something pushing like a rocket on the straight, but that can't take a corner for saving its own life, or the opposite.

As I always said, some of the funniest cars I ever drove where a 35hp 1984 Renault 5, with suspensions so soft you'd swear you had a flat tire, and a 75hp TDI Skoda. Why? They both have really, really bad chassis/setup, non-existent comfort and you feel on the limit taking a bend at 40 kph

Supergurrier

5 mILLION HORSEPOWERS

Atleast

frozenfrozen

Supergurrier wrote: »

5 mILLION HORSEPOWERS

Atleast

would that be at the wheels or at the crank?

Special Circumstances

frozenfrozen wrote: »

would that be at the wheels or at the crank?

Doesn't matter if it's old. Apparently.

Well, old and japanese is one thing, old and german is obviously in a superlative parallel dimension of course. Apparently. :pac:

CianRyan

MX5's being called hair dressers cars, 316's being called luxury cars.
This thread needs to die.

Mycroft H

CianRyan wrote: »

MX5's being called hair dressers cars, 316's being called luxury cars.
This thread needs to die.

Suppose we may just call them both hairdressers cars then....

EazyD

Mycroft H wrote: »

Suppose we may just call them both hairdressers cars then....

Your suzuki is uber macho though......I jest

Mycroft H

EazyD wrote: »

Your suzuki is uber macho though......I jest

It really isn't the most manly. It can go anywhere though. That's it ace card.

Asmooh

Mycroft H wrote: »

It really isn't the most manly. It can go anywhere though. That's it ace card.

so can a mx5...

YbFocus

Asmooh wrote: »

so can a mx5...

I don't think it could now in fairness. .

CianRyan

YbFocus wrote: »

I don't think it could now in fairness. .

You'd be surprised.

Duke O Smiley

Corolla....85 bhp
19.....78 bhp
18/85....86 bhp

Says a lot when your quickest car is about to hit its 45th birthday

166man

Asmooh wrote: »

so can a mx5...

true.



I hear they take ditches really well when their owners think they're a rally driver and snap oversteer bites.....!



:pac:

Asmooh

166man wrote: »

true.



I hear they take ditches really well when their owners think they're a rally driver and snap oversteer bites.....!



:pac:

everything is better than FWD cars.. those are ment for people who can't drive, just like automatics

Mycroft H

Hey the Jimny is RWD too. Sideways on gravel is very easy...

CianRyan

Mycroft H wrote: »

Hey the Jimny is RWD too. Sideways on gravel is very easy...

I can also attest to this.
I rented one in Zakynthos, very fun cars!

I really want to buy one, has to be a targa top though!

Mycroft H

Nothing an angle grinder and a 9" disc wouldn't sort. FYI the soft tops were all made in Spain under licence. Not sure how the quality compares to the ones made in the land of the rising sun.

166man

Asmooh wrote: »

everything is better than FWD cars.. those are ment for people who can't drive, just like automatics

And that's why you can only handle 92bhp in your RWD car of course....;)

Asmooh

166man wrote: »

And that's why you can only handle 92bhp in your RWD car of course....;)

92bhp? anyway those are stock specs you know

166man

Asmooh wrote: »

92bhp? anyway those are stock specs you know

Rough guesstimate. It's a 23 year old car that's probably had a tough enough life by the sounds of things, I'd not be too surprised if it was dyno'd as standard and hadn't lost 10-15%..;)

Asmooh

166man wrote: »

Rough guesstimate. It's a 23 year old car that's probably had a tough enough life by the sounds of things, I'd not be too surprised if it was dyno'd as standard and hadn't lost 10-15%..;)

Good point, lucky for you (or me) I will soon be adding my new LSD diff + some other upgrades before I start with putting in my new build engine.
No hurry here

Special Circumstances

CianRyan wrote: »

I can also attest to this.
I rented one in Zakynthos, very fun cars!

I really want to buy one, has to be a targa top though!

Great craic. Zero f**cks given by the boys renting em either. A bit of gesticulating to indicate not using 4wd on the road unless it rains, leave the key under mat on the last day.

Perished tyres squealing round the sharp corners.