La Liga Discussion Thread 2014/15 Season.

The Golden Miller

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Show up consistently in big games when his team needs him?

Scoring 5 goals against one of the worst teams in La Liga at home in a game Real were always going to win by a handy margin, hardly deserves a standing ovation.

Hugo Sanchez was doing that kind of thing for Real back in the 1980's when he won 4 Pichichi's in a row.

Ronaldo fans only argument is goals. By that reckoning Muller was a better player than Maradona and Cruyff. Infact the greatest international player ever was Ali Daei because he got the most goals. Ronaldo can score all the goals he want, but it ain't going to make him a better player. World class striker, average player

mufcboy1999

Show up consistently in big games when his team needs him?

Doesnt he hold the record for the most consecutive goals in el classico? didnt he go head to head with ibra against sweeden to send his country to the world cup? and there just off the top of my head :pac::pac::pac:

The amount of bum hurt ronaldo haters in this thread is laughable, can you not just admire them both instead of being so childish ? both are obviously 2 completely different animals...

Ulysses Gaze

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Ronaldo fans only argument is goals. By that reckoning Muller was a better player than Maradona and Cruyff. Infact the greatest international player ever was Ali Daei because he got the most goals. Ronaldo can score all the goals he want, but it ain't going to make him a better player. World class striker, average player.[\QUOTE]

Just like Hugo Sanchez and Gerd Muller. Nothing wrong with that....but neither are considered amongst the Greatest Players who have played the game.

And neither should Cristiano Ronaldo.

The Golden Miller

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

Doesnt he hold the record for the most consecutive goals in el classico? didnt he go head to head with ibra against sweeden to send his country to the world cup? and there just off the top of my head :pac::pac::pac:

The amount of bum hurt ronaldo haters in this thread is laughable, can you not just admire them both instead of being so childish ? both are obviously 2 completely different animals...

Based on nothing but goals again. So Ali Daei was the greatest international player ever then?

mufcboy1999

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Based on nothing but goals again. So Ali Daei was the greatest international player ever then?

dont goals win matches?

Rayne Wooney

The Sanchez and Muller comparisons are just ridiculous

The Golden Miller

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

dont goals win matches?

So you'll agree Ali Daei was the greatest international footballer ever to grace the field?

RasTa

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Based on nothing but goals again. So Ali Daei was the greatest international player ever then?

Your stupid argument might make sense if Ronaldo was banging 40+ goals in some no name league in Qatar however he has shown himself as the greatest in England and up there with the greatest in Spain.

Ulysses Gaze

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

The Sanchez and Muller comparisons are just ridiculous

Why?

dreamers75

Anyway a Villareal result of any sort would be nice today.

Sevilla to within 2 points of Valencia

Turtwig

Villareal Valencia should be good. What are the odds on Sky having the audio so crap that we can't get any appreciation for the atmosphere in the stadium?

Andersonisgod

callaway92 wrote: »

Waiting for Andersonisgod's post like:

I hate to disappoint but there's really no need to post anything. Everyone has seen Messi in prime form the last few months, they know they've seen the greatest player thats ever played the game, 5 goals against lowly Granada in a 9-1 route isn't going to change my mind and I doubt it will change anybody elses. Messi, whIle a sensational goalscorer, is so much more than goals, he is the very essence of football, he is what every other player and what every young kid in a park with a football aspires to.

Corholio

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Why?

Because they were mostly poachers, especially in Muller's case, fantastic goal scorers no doubt but they are not the same type of player as Ronaldo.....at all. It's not just goals people are basing their arguments on either, you'd swear with some people that Ronaldo never played a good game.

To say Ronaldo is an average player is frankly ridiculous, there's a lot of average players about and Ronaldo is definitely not one of them. Was it just goals that Real bought him for all that money when he was at United? Absolutely not. I say all this knowing Messi is the better player. But some of this 'Ronaldo is just goals' stuff is laughable.

The Golden Miller

Corholio wrote: »

Because they were mostly poachers, especially in Muller's case, fantastic goal scorers no doubt but they are not the same type of player as Ronaldo.....at all. It's not just goals people are basing their arguments on either, you'd swear with some people that Ronaldo never played a good game.

To say Ronaldo is an average player is frankly ridiculous, there's a lot of average players about and Ronaldo is definitely not one of them. Was it just goals that Real bought him for all that money when he was at United? Absolutely not. I say all this knowing Messi is the better player. But some of this 'Ronaldo is just goals' stuff is laughable.

Of course he's a poacher. His whole game is get rid of the ball to another player as quick as he can, and head straight to the box to look for goals for personal glory

Mars Bar

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Of course he's a poacher. His whole game is get rid of the ball to another player as quick as he can, and head straight to the box to look for goals for personal glory

Ronaldo is not a poacher! He does not hang off the last defender. He gets the ball and runs at players. He arrives from deeper positions to attack the ball in the air.

MisterAnarchy

Turtwig wrote: »

Villareal Valencia should be good. What are the odds on Sky having the audio so crap that we can't get any appreciation for the atmosphere in the stadium?

Yeah ,thats very irritating,they block all the atmosphere out .

I watched the Atletico Real match a few months back on Canal + and the stadium was a cacophony of sound . The sound was deafening .
Over on Sky it was filtered out so we could hear Gerry Armstrong dispensing his cliched pearls of wisdom.

AdamD

Average player? Jesus wept

The Golden Miller

Mars Bar wrote: »

Ronaldo is not a poacher! He does not hang off the last defender. He gets the ball and runs at players. He arrives from deeper positions to attack the ball in the air.

Sorry, "untraditional poacher". That better? If you actually watch him over 90 minutes, he never runs at players. Takes the ball out wide and around to the corner flag, because it deflects from the fact he can rarely beat his man.

MisterAnarchy

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Sorry, "untraditional poacher". That better? If you actually watch him over 90 minutes, he never runs at players. Takes the ball out wide and around to the corner flag, because it deflects from the fact he can rarely beat his man.

He doesnt run at players that much anymore thats true but I guess he is getting older and has knee issues,which rob you of pace .

He can still beat a man if he wants ,no doubt of that and is still fast.

With the pace Real had in the team last season ,Bale and Di Maria they did most of the running for the team so Ronaldo adapted his game .
They are lacking Di Maria's pace this season,Rodriguez is not fast and neither is Isco.

Did you not see Ronaldo running at the Barcelona defence time and time again 2 weeks ago ?
How can he be a poacher anyway ,he is a complete footballer.
Two good feet,good in the air,fast ,strong,good dribbler,good stamina ,good technique,excellent reading of the game ,etc

mufcboy1999

The Golden Miller wrote: »

So you'll agree Ali Daei was the greatest international footballer ever to grace the field?

No but you're arguement that ronaldo doesn't perform enough in the big games is ridiculously stupid. You sound like eamon dunphy a few years back, who admirably eat his words. Scoring goals believe it or not is a contribution worthy of the phrase stepping up, he's scored and assisted against countless big teams for Madrid,united and his country.

Bottom line is messi is messi and ronaldo is ronaldo, there's no point in comparing them constantly, there both untouchable but yet have very different styles of play and always have.

Messi is undoubtedly easier on the eye, a supreme dribbler of the ball with amazing skill and yes way more of a team player. Ronaldo is more power and speed with undoubtedly imo the best heading ability of any footballer in Europe, he's built for counter attacking football.

Now stop crying and admire them both, we'll be lucky if we ever see two greats in one era again.

CSF

People need to stop rising to The Golden Miller. Not everyone's opinions are worth a reply. Threads get ruined that way.

Too Tough To Die

CSF wrote: »

People need to stop rising to The Golden Miller. Not everyone's opinions are worth a reply. Threads get ruined that way.

Will keep it in mind, thanks.

Johner

Been impressed with Celta so far, they've been the better team.

Ulysses Gaze

Johner wrote: »

Been impressed with Celta so far, they've been the better team.

They really need to take their chances though.

Johner

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

They really need to take their chances though.

True, the one near the end of the half was an awful effort.

eternal

No match thread for the Barca game?

Ulysses Gaze

Johner wrote: »

True, the one near the end of the half was an awful effort.

And now they've paid for it.

5T3PH3N

That's hilarious

eternal

Shocking miss there.

rob316

Never saw a player go for that before.

Andersonisgod

Yes! Come on! Maybe it wasn't too pretty in northern Spain tonight but not a single culé will care. It's 3 points, it's a big 3 points away from home against a very competitive opponent, it's 3 points after the international break and the team isn't in full flow, it's the kind of 3 points that champions pick up and with each passing game, with every 3 points gained, Barcelona look more and more like champions.

Turtwig

Ah you gotta love la liga.

Player throws boot at linesman.
Player throws turf at player.

Great result for Villarreal and fully deserved.
Barcelona need Alba back for psg. Especially if Moura is playing.

Felt sorry for celta felt they deserved a draw. Barca were better in the second half. Celta unlucky not to score.

Has anyone got a list of the top six run in final games?

eternal

Anywhere I'd get to see the goals from the Real game?

Dirty Dingus McGee

Turtwig wrote: »

Ah you gotta love la liga.

Player throws boot at linesman.
Player throws turf at player.

Great result for Villarreal and fully deserved.
Barcelona need Alba back for psg. Especially if Moura is playing.

Felt sorry for celta felt they deserved a draw. Barca were better in the second half. Celta unlucky not to score.

Has anyone got a list of the top six run in final games?

You'd think they'd have burnt all their turf by now?

Turtwig

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

You'd think they'd have burnt all their turf by now?

That's why he was sent off. The ref didn't like his disregard for the use of a precious commodity.

dreamers75

Turan throwing boot or lad throwing grass..


Tough times for best LOL in la liga.

Turtwig

eternal wrote: »

Anywhere I'd get to see the goals from the Real game?

Can't embed.

All here: https://youtu.be/NrquWiN0mjM

Official la liga channel

eternal

Thanks for that. I don't remember Granada being that bad or was it just a master class from Real? They levelled them. Five goals in one game. I can only think of Tottenham scoring 9-1 against Wigan in 2009.

Turtwig

No idea, Netflix saw to it that I spent the day a walking sleep zombie. Didn't catch real game.

eternal

Turtwig wrote: »

No idea, Netflix saw to it that I spent the day a walking sleep zombie. Didn't catch real game.

I have your disease series-itis.

Ulysses Gaze

Ouch.....La Real and Moyes could be in for a long night - 2-0 down against Atleti after 10 mins.

irishguitarlad

Sociedad need a decent corner taker.

Andersonisgod

Double cover on Messi and a woeful angle to work with? The great man doesn't care, he skips past Edgar, the curl he gets on the ball to beat the keeper can only be described as majestic. Messi is the difference. 1-0

Andersonisgod

Don't let Suarez 1 vs 1 in the box, it can only end in disaster for you and that's what has happened. Left foot, top corner, top quality.

Andersonisgod

It's a plan B you wanted? It's a plan B you've gotten, Barcelona, of all teams, are set piece masters. Marc Bartra this time the one getting on the end of a Xavi corner. 3-0

Ulysses Gaze

20 wins out of 21 games.

Some run they are on.

Andersonisgod

The front 3 all link up for the third goal, it's Suarez's 2nd of the night, he is surely the most lethal hitman in the sport today. 4-0, 7 point gap, Barcelona have eyes on this league crown.

Turtwig

Barca's next few fixtures are incredibly tough. They have to lose/draw at least one game. Sevilla away, PSG away, Valencia at home, PSG at home. That's a very tough set of fixtures for a two week period.

If they get through it unscathed I expect them to win the league.

Ulysses Gaze

Turtwig wrote: »

Barca's next few fixtures are incredibly tough. They have to lose/draw at least one game. Sevilla away, PSG away, Valencia at home, PSG at home. That's a very tough set of fixtures for a two week period.

If they get through it unscathed I expect them to win the league.

They won at the Mestalla and Valencia are not great away from home this season so I expect them to win that.

My opinion is they'll draw at the Sanchez Pizjuan and narrowly lose at the Parc des Princes.

Turtwig

A win for Madrid. Gutsy performance from rayo. Actually the better team up until the final third where they were a sack of blighted spuds. Some awful squandering of great positions.