Sunderland vs Manchester United - Sunday 24th August, 16:00PM

FortuneChip

Billy86 wrote: »

I'm actually very impressed with Blackett in the short time he has had so far, but yeah even with Rojo we are too thin thanks to our love of injuries.

I think Blackett's been decent too. Had a good preseason, but I think it's a bad state of affairs that this is what we HAVE to rely on, as oppose to being in such a strong position we can give him a good run out.

Amirani

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Is smalling injured or what. Shreeves ya gimp

Didn't look a lot wrong with him in that last phase of play.

Talib Fiasco

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Jon Campion would want to educate himself on Marcos Rojo referring to him as a left back.

I think he's only going to be predicting where he'll play...cannot see Rojo being a success at CB, especially in England.

Amirani

TheFullDuck wrote: »

Also has Cleverly got some sort of blackmail on Neville. He straight up refuses to ever criticise him when he commentates. either the player that passed it to cleverly or luck are at fault

He's an England player. Neville generally isn't that eager to criticise them because of his role there.

TheFullDuck

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Jon Campion would want to educate himself on Marcos Rojo referring to him as a left back.

I've saw a lot of papers making this mistake too, he's primarily a left sided CB that can play as a left back. it's not hard to do some research

Son Of A Vidic

United scored that goal when I was in the bog. Thinking maybe I should spend the rest of the game in there.

Billy86

NoelJ wrote: »

You don't. That's your first injury in your back 3. There just isn't enough quality and depth there.

Second in our back three, fifth in our backline when you include WBs, before even mentioning our two best midfielders to cover and protect them.

Might as well be none at all!

Talib Fiasco

Mother of God Cleverley

Good movement from mata for the goal

Paully D

Where is the creativity in this Sunderland side going to come from?

NoelJ

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Johnny Evans, Shaw, Smalling and I suspect Rafael isn't fit either.

That's 4 defenders.

I'm guessing Shaw and Rafael are wing backs in your formation so you can't say they're defenders.

Also isn't Johnny Evans fit again?

I've no idea why Van Gaal is playing a back 3 considering it is the one position on the pitch they don't have depth.

Mr Alan

Paully D wrote: »

Where is the creativity in this Sunderland side going to come from?

Cleverly?

Talib Fiasco

NoelJ wrote: »

I'm guessing Shaw and Rafael are wing backs in your formation so you can't say they're defenders.

Also isn't Johnny Evans fit again?

I've no idea why Van Gaal is playing a back 3 considering it is the one position on the pitch they don't have depth.

Wing back....defender...get it?

PhiloCypher

Paully D wrote: »

Where is the creativity in this Sunderland side going to come from?

Cleverly

*edit*Damn Alan got in there before me .

NoelJ

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Wing back....defender...get it?

So are Young and Valencia now defenders? Couldn't really see them as your centre backs.

Your Airbag

Tom Cleverly is playing in our midfeild.

Just let that sink in for a moment.

Talib Fiasco

NoelJ wrote: »

So are Young and Valencia now defenders? Couldn't really see them as your centre backs.

They're wingers being used as wing backs out of sheer crisis

madcabbage

If Utd lose today, can they just gift Sunderland Cleverly as a forfeit?...

PhlegmyMoses

NoelJ wrote: »

I'm guessing Shaw and Rafael are wing backs in your formation so you can't say they're defenders.

Also isn't Johnny Evans fit again?

I've no idea why Van Gaal is playing a back 3 considering it is the one position on the pitch they don't have depth.

Wing backs are defenders. Jonny Evans is not fit. HTH

Lord TSC

Well that was coming....

Harry Palmr

Well its was coming, weak defending. Free header

Another assist from cleverly

Amirani

NoelJ wrote: »

So are Young and Valencia now defenders? Couldn't really see them as your centre backs.

Luke Shaw or Rafael wouldn't play centre back either, ergo are they not defenders? Strange logic.

Talib Fiasco

Yesss!!!! Rodwell ya legend!!!

PhlegmyMoses

It was coming

Amirani

What's Valencia doing there? Randomly makes a run to the front post.

madcabbage

Balls...

TheTownie

Great marking by Valencia :rolleyes:

KH25

Valencia showing his complete inability to even defend. What a dreadful player.

Phil Jones pulled a magical face for that one!

1-1

PhiloCypher

Very least Sunderland have deserved for their endeavour .

Your Airbag

Smalling looks like he is in pain.

Get him off.

How Soon Is Now

Fudge!

dr.bollocko

Remarkable how quickly it comes back just how hard to watch this damn team is in this state.

It's like granny playing playstation.

Billy86

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Another assist from cleverly

Poor as Cleverly has been, that was entirely on Valencia.

Amirani

Never a free.

Son Of A Vidic

Mr Alan wrote: »

Paully D wrote: »

Where is the creativity in this Sunderland side going to come from?

Cleverly?

I think it's safe to say you can remove the question mark there.

Paully D

Linesman actually gave that free kick because Valencia looked at him. Ridiculous. :rolleyes:

Billy86

NoelJ wrote: »

So are Young and Valencia now defenders? Couldn't really see them as your centre backs.

"There are four types of defender: centre-back, sweeper, full-back and wing-back. The centre-back and full-back positions are essential in most modern formations. The sweeper and wing-back roles are more specialised for certain formations."

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_(soccer)

PhlegmyMoses

I'd be moving Rooney back to get some rhythm going in the midfield. Bring on Hernandez up top

NoelJ

Diego Simeone wrote: »

Luke Shaw or Rafael wouldn't play centre back either, ergo are they not defenders? Strange logic.

What I'm trying to say is that in a 5-3 2 formation with wing backs, you need 3 centre backs. United's worst possible position at the moment is centre backs, whether you include injuries or not, centre back is their worst position in terms of depth and quality. I'm surprised Van Gaal is using this formation as it just enhances the lack of quality in the centre of defence.

Good opportunity here come on

redbaron_99

If have Ben Pearson in that team ahead of fletcher and cleverley.
Reece James simply could not do a worse job that young.
And I think today finally convinces everyone that Valencia cannot play as a wing back.

double GG

Awful awful defending

ricero

suspect referee decisions

Your Airbag

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Remarkable how quickly it comes back just how hard to watch this damn team is in this state.

It's like granny playing playstation.

Even google translate wouldn't touch of this post.

KH25

redbaron_99 wrote: »

If have Ben Pearson in that team ahead of fletcher and cleverley.
Reece James simply could not do a worse job that young.
And I think today finally convinces everyone that Valencia cannot play as a wing back.

Valencia can't play football in any form.

Nib

Great play from blackett

Amirani

Your Airbag wrote: »

Even google translate wouldn't touch of this post.

Huh?