Dublin v Donegal Sunday 31 August AI semifinal Mod Warning Posts #392 #541

Nidgeweasel

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'm not bitter
I just don't like their fans, their manger or their style

But I will give them credit for 2012, and I have said that before here, they played far more expansive football than in 2011 or since.

Their fans go around like they are the greatest thing since the Kerry golden years, they need to be reminded that they have less All Ireland than Mayo, Tipp, Wexford, Kildare etc etc.

Their manager has and unbelievable ego, and has already alienated at least two fine footballers, and god only know how many younger promising guys who we will never find out about because they did not do things Jimmy's way.
He has never missed an importunity to try and play pathetic mind games in the media, and if it's not him that's doing it's one of his lackeys.

And their style of football is pure anti-football. They will never thrill the neutral the way Mayo and Kerry did last week.
The 2011 SF should be used as a CIA torture technique.

As I said I would like them to win so that Mayo or Kerry could beat seven colours of s**te out of them on the biggest stage, but if I am watching it on Sunday I will be cheering Dublin all the way, cos the sight of them just sickens me.

You don't sound bitter anyway.. ..

Their fans go around like Kerry etc.

How many do you know? That is a ridiculous generalisation. Most in Donegal think we'll get easily beaten this weekend. And for most games this year. Hardly brash arrogant cocky fans now.

Jim has alienated fine footballers? Mark McHugh left on his own accord and the door is open. Hardly alienating him is it. Who is the other? Cass? Cass broke the rules the squad had agreed to but again he was asked back too and he declined. Hardly alienating someone is it.

And as for his ego, this is more nonsense. He is incredibly down to earth and very humble given his undoubted brilliance That is my position from actually knowing him. You perceive things through the media in etc which suit your position.

And as for mind games and all this carryon your own Horan (+baseball cap) is hardly an angel is he. And I could go on about James Horan the most sinfully boring manager in the game and how it's no surprise Mayo continue to be specialists in failure under him but I won't because I don't know him.

You talk about young players, again more bollocks. Ryan Mchugh, McNiallias, Hugh McFadden, Jigger. 5 new young players now who are big parts of the squad. Jim has also been around with the minors at various stages this summer too helping them but again you wouldn't know that because you don't know a single thing about Donegal football.

And you wouldn't care less about any style of football if you finally managed to win an all Ireland instead of fluffing your lines and being laughed at by the rest of the country. We played expansive attacking football for long enough and got nowhere with it.

Tl:Dr : Stop talking about things regarding Donegal football that you know nothing about. Many thanks.

PS. best of luck on Saturday. It will be a brilliant occasion in the gaelic grounds.

DoctaDee

This is one of tbe few occasions that Dublin will have a fair portion of the neutral support

2 teams that have polarised opinion. We are GAA marmite !

Fr Tod Umptious

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

You don't sound bitter anyway.. ..

Their fans go around like Kerry etc.

How many do you know? That is a ridiculous generalisation. Most in Donegal think we'll get easily beaten this weekend. And for most games this year. Hardly brash arrogant cocky fans now.

Jim has alienated fine footballers? Mark McHugh left on his own accord and the door is open. Hardly alienating him is it. Who is the other? Cass? Cass broke the rules the squad had agreed to but again he was asked back too and he declined. Hardly alienating someone is it.

And as for his ego, this is more nonsense. He is incredibly down to earth and very humble given his undoubted brilliance That is my position from actually knowing him. You perceive things through the media in etc which suit your position.

And as for mind games and all this carryon your own Horan (+baseball cap) is hardly an angel is he. And I could go on about James Horan the most sinfully boring manager in the game and how it's no surprise Mayo continue to be specialists in failure under him but I won't because I don't know him.

You talk about young players, again more bollocks. Ryan Mchugh, McNiallias, Hugh McFadden, Jigger. 5 new young players now who are big parts of the squad. Jim has also been around with the minors at various stages this summer too helping them but again you wouldn't know that because you don't know a single thing about Donegal football.

And you wouldn't care less about any style of football if you finally managed to win an all Ireland instead of fluffing your lines and being laughed at by the rest of the country. We played expansive attacking football for long enough and got nowhere with it.

Tl:Dr : Stop talking about things regarding Donegal football that you know nothing about. Many thanks.

PS. best of luck on Saturday. It will be a brilliant occasion in the gaelic grounds.

The fact that you refer to his so called "undoubted brilliance" just shows how much you have been brainwashed by this guy.

And I don't know what the fact that he "has been around the minors" had to do with anything.
My point is that he will probably alienate many of them cos it's "Jimmy's way or the high way"

Nidgeweasel

DoctaDee wrote: »

This is one of tbe few occasions that Dublin will have a fair portion of the neutral support

2 teams that have polarised opinion. We are GAA marmite !

Give it another few years of success and expect that to change, dramatically. People are fickle and usually very jealous of the success of others. In a few years people would be crying out for someone to beat Dublin, by any means necessary.

Nidgeweasel

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

The fact that you refer to his so called "undoubted brilliance" just shows how much you have been brainwashed by this guy.

And I don't know what the fact that he "has been around the minors" had to do with anything.
My point is that he will probably alienate many of them cos it's "Jimmy's way or the high way"

3 Ulster Championships and an All Ireland in 4 years with a team that were more stag party than football team. Undoubtedly brilliant. There is no question of that.

The point in the minors is that he is committed to ensuring there is a structure in place in the county having minors a route through to seniors. His professional career is much of the same so again your talking nonsense about inferring that young players possibly either not getting a chance/miss out or getting alienated. You know like he has alienated.......? Oh that's right. Nobody.

And as for his way or the highway. Show me a manager that isn't like that? They are in charge, of course things are done their way. It's the same in club football ffs. You think Horan, Gavin, Mickey Harte, Gilroy a few years ago aren't like that?

But no Jim is a strict dictator and disciplinarian whereas in sure Horan facilitates a utopia of free choice and love in training and all the players decide together where they should play and how they should play while advocating for social equality and love, man.

Ceist_Beag

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'm not bitter
<snip>... followed by lots of bitter bile</snip>

I think Nidge summed it up nicely Fr but you really ought to get that chip off your shoulder. Last year your boys gave our lads a lesson in Croke Park but the Mayo fans around us lacked any class after. Usually when All Ireland winners are beaten the following year they are given some respect for that but not last year. Despite all the gloating and completely over the top celebrating from them at winning a quarter final, we still wished them well and sincerely meant it as most Donegal fans would love to see Mayo win an All Ireland (so long as it's not against Donegal obviously!). You obviously don't understand the Donegal sense of humour if you think they go around thinking we're the greatest thing since Kerry and you clearly don't actually watch teams play but rather buy into soundbites or else you would see that Mayo playing to their strengths and playing their running game are very similar to Donegal in terms of style. Both teams get men behind the ball and break out in numbers by running at the opposition but hey you keep believing that Donegal are anti football and Mayo are very different.

intellectual dosser

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'm not bitter
I just don't like their fans, their manger or their style

But I will give them credit for 2012, and I have said that before here, they played far more expansive football than in 2011 or since.

Their fans go around like they are the greatest thing since the Kerry golden years, they need to be reminded that they have less All Ireland than Mayo, Tipp, Wexford, Kildare etc etc.

Their manager has and unbelievable ego, and has already alienated at least two fine footballers, and god only know how many younger promising guys who we will never find out about because they did not do things Jimmy's way.
He has never missed an importunity to try and play pathetic mind games in the media, and if it's not him that's doing it's one of his lackeys.

And their style of football is pure anti-football. They will never thrill the neutral the way Mayo and Kerry did last week.
The 2011 SF should be used as a CIA torture technique.

As I said I would like them to win so that Mayo or Kerry could beat seven colours of s**te out of them on the biggest stage, but if I am watching it on Sunday I will be cheering Dublin all the way, cos the sight of them just sickens me.

Jeez Tod you're one of my favorite posters on the GAA forum, I've never seen you allow emotion creep into a post so much.

I remember being on Hill 16 for the 2012 final and the behavior of a group of Mayo fans beside me before the game wasn't anything to be proud of - but I wont be labeling all Mayo supporters with the same reputation.

The strange thing about the style of play is that if you brought someone from 20 years ago into the present day they'd also be asking questions of Dublin, Mayo and Kerry too. Constant Hand passing and multi-man tackling are now such a common part of everyone's game that no one talks about it anymore. Donegal have surely taken it to a further extreme and therefore take most of the flak, 5 years ago it was Tyrone, now its Donegal - who's next?

Jimmy wont be apologizing to anyone - 3 years since that semi final people need to get over it.

Tom Joad

Feel like I have stumbling into some altered reality here:eek:.

As a neutral here have to object to what was said about the Donegal fans -some of the most decent, soundest and wittiest fans I have met from any county are Donegal fans. Also what they have achieved coming from being a laughing stock team of party boys to what they have achieved is nothing short of outstanding and they have now developed some cracking underage teams too so Jim has laid the foundations for a very good period for Donegal in the future. And all in the toughest province to get through and with a limited squad.

I was at the Donegal Mayo game last year when Mayo obliterated Donegal and have to say that we still had the crack with the Donegal supporters but the Mayo supporters around me were some of the greatest most arrogant obnoxious bell ends I ever met wearing GAA jerseys (and I've been in Santa Ponza with a group of Dublin fans ). But I wouldn't generalise all Mayo fans to be like that - but it is laughable that some Mayo supporters think they are superior to Donegal based on the lazy old Sunday Game cliches about the way they play and think they would hockey Donegal in an AI Final - come on lads no offence but it's Mayo on All Ireland Final day!! To say you would hockey anyone is incredible to say the least.

Anyway back on topic - I think Donegal will keep it tight early on but come the 50th minute Dublin will have one of their power periods and will run out winners by 7 points.

DoctaDee

THAT semi final in 2011; intriguing, enthralling ?, well yeah to the same degree as you rubberneck a car crash. Mickey Whelan spoke of the Dubs preparation for the game, playing countless practice matches with a packed defence - even 18 v 15 aside. Jim Mc confiscated mobile phones as the war room readied battle stations. What unfolded was outside the scope of anything that Dublin had reasonably prepared for - frustration was evident both on the field and in the stands. I thought that particular atmosphere served as an advantage to Donegal.

Fast forward 3 years and that intervening period has served as a great learning period to others on the facets of the defensive game. Flynner now speaks the mantra of "Patience" as the 1st step in approaching the match. Past30Now alluded to the post I had regarding the Dublin planning for this defensive system. It has been 8 months of refinement - but this is not being dismissive of games upto the Monaghan match either as the style of play was suited to all eventualities. It's not rocket science, moving the ball quickly with committed numbers, isolating 2v1 situations with runners off the shoulder and the ball being moved quickly thru the hands. Dublins advantage is they can do it quicker than most (with the possible exception of Kerry), but tellingly they can do it for longer than everybody.

Dublin have replicated the Donegal defensive system as a well coached philosophy in AvB practice games - but to my mind there's no way Donegal can mirror the Dublin way of playing.

Things have gone very quiet on the Dublin front - I'd spoken with a few of the players prior to the Monaghan game and might have picked up a snippet or 2 of info elsewhere, but have heard nothing. But make no mistake about it, this is the match they've had in their crosshairs all season

flasher0030

Fr Tod. I think you're cracking up under the pressure of 2 days to go to the semi-final replay. It sounds like you've been keepin this shlt in for years, and just need to get it off you chest.

You're talkin rubbish. I'm from Mayo - as another poster said - how can you say that Mayo will kick seven colours of shlte of any team in an all-Ireland final. Half the country feel sorry for us, and the other half are laughing at us with our history re All-Ireland Finals. And worse still, it's Mayo supporters that go around showing arrogance, not Donegal. Donegal won the All-Ireland from nothing, and their supporters are proud of it. Mayo haven't won an All-Ireland in over 60 years, but you would think it was a common occurrence that Sam comes to Castlebar, with the level of over-confidence that Mayo supporters come up to Croke Park with.

It's fine to have an opinion on something when an opinion in warrented. Jim McGuinness brought an average team to All Ireland victory. For that - he is a brilliant manager. There can't be any debate about it. If they didn't win it, then it's open to debate.

And as for alienating players - what about Evan Regan, Ritchie Feeney (can't buy a minute of play), Alan Feeney, Adam Gallagher (who is injured recently, but nobody knows what happened him since last March), Conor Mortimor,

You owe the good people of Donegal an apology for the abusive comments.

Your rant kinda reminded me of Kevin Keegan losing the rag in an interview all those years ago. "I'd luv it"

Past30Now

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'm not bitter
...

Their manager has and unbelievable ego, and has already alienated at least two fine footballers, and god only know how many younger promising guys who we will never find out about because they did not do things Jimmy's way.
He has never missed an importunity to try and play pathetic mind games in the media, and if it's not him that's doing it's one of his lackeys.

And their style of football is pure anti-football. They will never thrill the neutral the way Mayo and Kerry did last week.

From this distance I find myself agreeing with Tod. Donegal's style of play isn't attractive (master of understatement ). The manager does seem to have a large ego, and reminds me of Mourinho when it comes to hauling the odd player off before half time. It feels like he's trying to show the world how "special" he is.

However if Dublin had played that way in 2011 and won the All Ireland I would have cheered from the rafters. What shocked football supporters in the s/f in 2011 won't cause a ripple today with a number of teams playing in a similar fashion.

He has turned an unsuccessful team "stag party" into a proper very well drilled football team. Anyone I've spoken to who have actually met the guy describe him in glowing terms. Again if he was the Mayo/Dublin/Kerry manager then most supporters in those counties would love the guy.

BonnieSituation

intellectual dosser wrote: »

Jeez Tod you're one of my favorite posters on the GAA forum, I've never seen you allow emotion creep into a post so much.

I remember being on Hill 16 for the 2012 final and the behavior of a group of Mayo fans beside me before the game wasn't anything to be proud of - but I wont be labeling all Mayo supporters with the same reputation.

The strange thing about the style of play is that if you brought someone from 20 years ago into the present day they'd also be asking questions of Dublin, Mayo and Kerry too. Constant Hand passing and multi-man tackling are now such a common part of everyone's game that no one talks about it anymore. Donegal have surely taken it to a further extreme and therefore take most of the flak, 5 years ago it was Tyrone, now its Donegal - who's next?

Jimmy wont be apologizing to anyone - 3 years since that semi final people need to get over it.

I have never had issue with Mayo fans really. Well except that town was deserted last year after the final. Understandably so.

The best craic to be had is when there's an Ulster team in town (except those Orchard shower), and it tends to be a great day out regardless of what unfolds on the pitch.

And when it's Dublin v (insert Ulster team here) it's ninety!


The oft-stated "there wasn't that much handpassing 20/30/40 years ago" grates on me somewhat. If they were playing football out there today like they did when I was in my teens I would turn my back to it.

Some of the 'ball that has been played in the last ten years has been spectacular. Hand passing is a tactical addition as opposed to a way out of trouble as it often felt like back in the day.

The quality of foot passing is light years ahead of that up-and-under crap we were subjected to for decades.

The Tyrone team from 2008 is my favourite of the lot. Only this current Dublin squad is coming close to playing with such verve.

Tom Joad wrote: »

Feel like I have stumbling into some altered reality here:eek:.

As a neutral here have to object to what was said about the Donegal fans -some of the most decent, soundest and wittiest fans I have met from any county are Donegal fans. Also what they have achieved coming from being a laughing stock team of party boys to what they have achieved is nothing short of outstanding and they have now developed some cracking underage teams too so Jim has laid the foundations for a very good period for Donegal in the future. And all in the toughest province to get through and with a limited squad.

But sure you can't be neutral with Donegal, lest the ancients turn in their grave, you have to hate them or nothing! :P

Their 2012 performance was breathtaking and some of the football they played was exceptional. There was only ever gonna be one winner of that final v Mayo for me from the second they got there.

I was at the Donegal Mayo game last year when Mayo obliterated Donegal and have to say that we still had the crack with the Donegal supporters but the Mayo supporters around me were some of the greatest most arrogant obnoxious bell ends I ever met wearing GAA jerseys (and I've been in Santa Ponza with a group of Dublin fans ). But I wouldn't generalise all Mayo fans to be like that - but it is laughable that some Mayo supporters think they are superior to Donegal based on the lazy old Sunday Game cliches about the way they play and think they would hockey Donegal in an AI Final - come on lads no offence but it's Mayo on All Ireland Final day!! To say you would hockey anyone is incredible to say the least.

That game last year was inevitable after the Monaghan game I thought. And to be honest Mayo spunked their lot that day.

Anyway back on topic - I think Donegal will keep it tight early on but come the 50th minute Dublin will have one of their power periods and will run out winners by 7 points.

I'd say it'll be 'til the 60 and we'll win by 7.

DoctaDee wrote: »

THAT semi final in 2011; intriguing, enthralling ?, well yeah to the same degree as you rubberneck a car crash. Mickey Whelan spoke of the Dubs preparation for the game, playing countless practice matches with a packed defence - even 18 v 15 aside. Jim Mc confiscated mobile phones as the war room readied battle stations. What unfolded was outside the scope of anything that Dublin had reasonably prepared for - frustration was evident both on the field and in the stands. I thought that particular atmosphere served as an advantage to Donegal.

That SF was unbelievable. The tension in the stadium was like nothing I have ever experienced at HQ, before or since. Even the last 10 against Kerry in the Final didn't come close to that.

You really appreciate what a remarkable tactical battle that was on re-watches. Frankly a Herculean performance from Donegal. The discipline to a man was exceptoional.

The comments from Spillane afterwards were odious, with his "victory for football" bull.
If Donegal came out of that gamethen it was a clear case of the best team won. Both teams were magnificent.

Fast forward 3 years and that intervening period has served as a great learning period to others on the facets of the defensive game. Flynner now speaks the mantra of "Patience" as the 1st step in approaching the match. Past30Now alluded to the post I had regarding the Dublin planning for this defensive system. It has been 8 months of refinement - but this is not being dismissive of games upto the Monaghan match either as the style of play was suited to all eventualities. It's not rocket science, moving the ball quickly with committed numbers, isolating 2v1 situations with runners off the shoulder and the ball being moved quickly thru the hands. Dublins advantage is they can do it quicker than most (with the possible exception of Kerry), but tellingly they can do it for longer than everybody.

Dublin have replicated the Donegal defensive system as a well coached philosophy in AvB practice games - but to my mind there's no way Donegal can mirror the Dublin way of playing.

Things have gone very quiet on the Dublin front - I'd spoken with a few of the players prior to the Monaghan game and might have picked up a snippet or 2 of info elsewhere, but have heard nothing. But make no mistake about it, this is the match they've had in their crosshairs all season

We all know how far Dublin have taken the game in the last 4 years, but my God, it's frightening to read it, isn't it?

homewardbound11

SM746 wrote: »

Unfortunately it pains me to say it but I'm in total agreement. I have looked at it from every angle and I just cannot see us winning.. God how I hope I am proved wrong but I just cannot see it!

I gave been impressed by donegal this year. There is a new hunger and they are not entirely the negative team from 2011. Unfortunately they are not the counter attacking team of 2012. I wish them the best on Sunday , genuinely . If the finish score is less than 8 then they can hold their head high.
On other comments , if donegal win on Sunday and I sincerely don't think so , they will have little to fear from Kerry or mayo.
Best of luck donegal.

Stoner

Tom Joad wrote: »

As a neutral here .

No you're not, you just have to hide it better and be fair.

The curse of being a Mod!

Tom Joad

Stoner wrote: »

No you're not, you just have to hide it better and be fair.

The curse of being a Mod!

Of course I'm neutral (in this case)

Only because Meath or Tyrone are not involved

K-9

BonnieSituation wrote: »

The Tyrone team from 2008 is my favourite of the lot. Only this current Dublin squad is coming close to playing with such verve.

My favourite team of the last 20 years as well, breath taking at their best, but I do think Dublin have taken their style, and Donegal in 2012, onto another level. In fairness they just have more numbers and more talented players which helps, plus the dedication to make it work.

Total respect here in Donegal for Dublin, everybody understands the massive task we have.

downthemiddle

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I'm not bitter
I just don't like their fans, their manger or their style

But I will give them credit for 2012, and I have said that before here, they played far more expansive football than in 2011 or since.

Their fans go around like they are the greatest thing since the Kerry golden years, they need to be reminded that they have less All Ireland than Mayo, Tipp, Wexford, Kildare etc etc.

Their manager has and unbelievable ego, and has already alienated at least two fine footballers, and god only know how many younger promising guys who we will never find out about because they did not do things Jimmy's way.
He has never missed an importunity to try and play pathetic mind games in the media, and if it's not him that's doing it's one of his lackeys.

And their style of football is pure anti-football. They will never thrill the neutral the way Mayo and Kerry did last week.
The 2011 SF should be used as a CIA torture technique.

As I said I would like them to win so that Mayo or Kerry could beat seven colours of s**te out of them on the biggest stage, but if I am watching it on Sunday I will be cheering Dublin all the way, cos the sight of them just sickens me.

This is quite an astonishing rant.

You don't like Donegal fans . Of the approximately 160,000 people who live in the county what percentage of them do you know?

You don't like Jim McGuinness. How well do you know the man? How often have you spoken to him? On what basis can you categorically state that he has an unbelievable ego? Those who know him, far better than you obviously do, know him to be an intelligent, articulate and humble person.

You claim he alienated two fine footballers and I can only assume you are referring to Mark McHugh and Kevin Cassidy. You obviously have no knowledge of the circumstances in which Mark McHugh left the squad. The manner in which Ryan McHugh is performing for Jim reflects the views of the squad. They fully support Jim on this issue and Mark McHugh's public support of the team this summer shows where his loyalties lie. I can assure you I know Cass an awful lot better than you do and yet again you are wrong. As was pointed out previously Jim asked Cass back to the squad on more than one occasion and for personal reasons Cass declined. You are probably not aware that Cass had retired from inter county football before Jim took over.

Those who have served on his backroom teams are far from lackeys. They are strong characters who are not afraid to voice their opinions. Jim wouldn't want it any other way. If you think you will find "yes" men in Donegal you obviously don't understand our psyche.

2012 obviously hit you hard. Don't take it so seriously, it is only a game of football after all.

DoctaDee

BonnieSituation wrote: »

...................We all know how far Dublin have taken the game in the last 4 years, but my God, it's frightening to read it, isn't it?

Sorry, didn't want to quote the whole post but just a few thoughts.

I can't remember much of the 2011 SF tbh, I know I walked out afterwards feeling like I'd been tasered repeatedly.

The 2010 SF v Cork remains the defining atmosphere for me, purely because it was incessant for the 75 odd mins of the match .. again I walked out feeling tasered repeatedly, but had so much pride in the Dubs coming from the hammering the previous year although an ultimately fruitlless ending for them. This was closely followed by the NHL final in 2011, a crowd of around 35,000 made some racket, and of course the AI in 2011 when I fell down the steps after Cluxton pointed, memories and a scar for prosperity.

I always felt there was a mutual admiration between Dublin & Tyrone fans a few years back (when we weren't winning ) .. sort've a "no one likes us we don't care" kindred spirit.

Finally ... yeah it is frightening their preparation with regards work & resolve, but in a very understated way. I haven't met the more "colourful" characters on the team, but the ones I have are very matter of fact.

It reminds me of a scene in "League of their Own" when James Corden was talking about the eastend of London hard men, the fellas that were full of talk and "bish,bop", then the proper hard men that just needed to sniff to make a point. I'd imagine all great sport teams excude a certain vibe much akin to a hard man sniff

corny

Donegal will do an effective job of stopping Dublin but they'll commit so much to restricting them that they won't score enough at the other end to win the game. Not exactly a repeat of the semi in 2012 but it won't be the damage limitation exercise most of commentary i'm reading is predicting. Dublin by 2 or 3 in a very hard fought game.

Diabhal Beag

Donegal will keep it close in the first half and concede about 4-19 in the second half.

Nidgeweasel

downthemiddle wrote: »

If you think you will find "yes" men in Donegal you obviously don't understand our psyche.

When is the last time we voted the same way as the rest of the country?

Seanaid abolition I suppose buy you'd be stupid not to vote no to that.

seligehgit

intellectual dosser wrote: »

Jeez Tod you're one of my favorite posters on the GAA forum, I've never seen you allow emotion creep into a post so much.

I remember being on Hill 16 for the 2012 final and the behavior of a group of Mayo fans beside me before the game wasn't anything to be proud of - but I wont be labeling all Mayo supporters with the same reputation.

The strange thing about the style of play is that if you brought someone from 20 years ago into the present day they'd also be asking questions of Dublin, Mayo and Kerry too. Constant Hand passing and multi-man tackling are now such a common part of everyone's game that no one talks about it anymore. Donegal have surely taken it to a further extreme and therefore take most of the flak, 5 years ago it was Tyrone, now its Donegal - who's next?

Jimmy wont be apologizing to anyone - 3 years since that semi final people need to get over it.

You're dead right,every county has it's own quota of idiots.Mayo is no different.The vast,vast majority of Mayo fans admire Donegal for what they have achieved in recent years whatever the tactics.
They were worthy winners of the AI in 2012,you've got some excellent footballers(one with more than a drop of Mayo blood ),I for one would'nt derive any satisfaction from our North Western neighbours getting a hammering on Sunday.

downthemiddle

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

When is the last time we voted the same way as the rest of the country?

Seanaid abolition I suppose buy you'd be stupid not to vote no to that.

A bunch of lackeys we are I tell ya, a bunch of lackeys.

Wishful Thinking

Is this match a sell out?

Cannot buy tickets online now but no sign from media how tickets are selling. Was assumption it would be a sell out but heard Super Valu in Donegal report they have loads of tickets.

Don't know is this allowed moderators but I have two premium level tickets & am looking to swap with anybody that might be able to get their hands on 3 normal tickets(or two adults & child) together? Any chance?

Barlett

As a Mayo supporter...I find watching Donegal fascinating... Watching the different tactics employed. Their approach in 2011 was genius...this nonsense about playing the right way. I'd much rather play the wrong way & win!

Nidgeweasel

BonnieSituation wrote: »

The Tyrone team from 2008 is my favourite of the lot. Only this current Dublin squad is coming close to playing with such verve.

K-9 wrote: »

My favourite team of the last 20 years as well, breath taking at their best, but I do think Dublin have taken their style, and Donegal in 2012, onto another level. In fairness they just have more numbers and more talented players which helps, plus the dedication to make it work.

Total respect here in Donegal for Dublin, everybody understands the massive task we have.

Mine too.

The end to that 2008 final is how I'd dream of Donegal winning one if they ever got the chance again.

They were such a brilliant side, Tyrone. I loved watching them. They're the best I've seen I think. I know people say the Kerry boys and now the Dubs but I would back that Tyrone side against anyone. They had that je ne sais quoi that the others didn't. Think it may be steel or northern grit. Possibly as a result of the tragedies that they have encountered on the way. McGirr, Omagh, Cormac.

K-9

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

Mine too.

The end to that 2008 final is how I'd dream of Donegal winning one if they ever got the chance again.

They were such a brilliant side, Tyrone. I loved watching them. They're the best I've seen I think. I know people say the Kerry boys and now the Dubs but I would back that Tyrone side against anyone. They had that je ne sais quoi that the others didn't. Think it may be steel or northern grit. Possibly as a result of the tragedies that they have encountered on the way. McGirr, Omagh, Cormac.

The way I look at Tyrone vs. Kerry then, picking a 15 from them Kerry would win, but I know which team I'd want to play for, every single time!

Nidgeweasel

Does anyone know if the minor game will be televised or available abroad?

Alvin Holler

K-9 wrote: »

My favourite team of the last 20 years as well, breath taking at their best, but I do think Dublin have taken their style, and Donegal in 2012, onto another level. In fairness they just have more numbers and more talented players which helps, plus the dedication to make it work.

Tyrone in 08 weren't a patch on 05, 08 was pretty much a one man show with Cavanagh doing everything. 05 had Mulligan, O'Neill, Canavan and Brian McGuigan all playing superbly well.

The 08 forward line had Tommy McGuigan, McCullagh etc.

Anyway, back on topic, thought we'd be hammered after the quarters but feeling more confident that we'll make a game out of it.

corny

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

Does anyone know if the minor game will be televised or available abroad?

Its live on TG4. Don't know if they stream worldwide though.

Ceist_Beag

Alvin Holler wrote: »

Tyrone in 08 weren't a patch on 05, 08 was pretty much a one man show with Cavanagh doing everything. 05 had Mulligan, O'Neill, Canavan and Brian McGuigan all playing superbly well.

The 08 forward line had Tommy McGuigan, McCullagh etc.

Agreed, the 2005 team was a superb team with a lot of them at the top of their game.

K-9

Ceist_Beag wrote: »

Agreed, the 2005 team was a superb team with a lot of them at the top of their game.

True enough, I just preferred the style of football more in 08, the annihilation of Dublin was spectacular at times.

Ed Winchester

K-9 wrote: »

True enough, I just preferred the style of football more in 08, the annihilation of Dublin was spectacular at times.

Wasn't a great dubs team though.

DoctaDee

K-9 wrote: »

True enough, I just preferred the style of football more in 08, the annihilation of Dublin was spectacular at times.

Ha yeah all from a team beaten 1st round in Ulster that year. We were hammered by Tyrone, we were annihilated by Kerry the following year

K-9

DoctaDee wrote: »

Ha yeah all from a team beaten 1st round in Ulster that year. We were hammered by Tyrone, we were annihilated by Kerry the following year

Down beat them after a replay in 2 classics. The counter attacking style for me was the basis of Donegal in 2012 and Dublin or Mayo now, the likes of Ricey or Justin McMahon up in the FF line at times.

Past30Now

K-9 wrote: »

True enough, I just preferred the style of football more in 08, the annihilation of Dublin was spectacular at times.

It's the only time I ever left a match early. We'd lost two semi finals in a row and it felt that we were on the verge of a breakthrough. Pillar Caffrey had done a great job with the team, but that was a sickener. The 05 team for Tyrone was better than the 08 team, but that performance by them was excellent.

DoctaDee

Past30Now wrote: »

It's the only time I ever left a match early. We'd lost two semi finals in a row and it felt that we were on the verge of a breakthrough. Pillar Caffrey had done a great job with the team, but that was a sickener. The 05 team for Tyrone was better than the 08 team, but that performance by them was excellent.

The lashing rain, the false hope of an encouraging start and the passing of Ronnie Drew .. roll them into a ball and you get a horrible day!

poppers

for a match thread there is not much about the actual match here.
heres hoping for the rain and wind to come on sunday might slow up dublins running game.

Grandeeod

poppers wrote: »

for a match thread there is not much about the actual match here.
heres hoping for the rain and wind to come on sunday might slow up dublins running game.

The forecast is for a dry warm day.;)

davidfitz22

Worth a 50 quid punt on donegal at 7-1

DoctaDee

davidfitz22 wrote: »

Worth a 50 quid punt on donegal at 7-1

Dublin to win by +15 points is near enough the same odds

davidfitz22

DoctaDee wrote: »

Dublin to win by +15 points is near enough the same odds

you can get donegal to win by 1-3 points at 11-1, surely that is worth the gamble as theat likely going to be the outcome.

DoctaDee

davidfitz22 wrote: »

you can get donegal to win by 1-3 points at 11-1, surely that is worth the gamble as theat likely going to be the outcome.

Truthfully, I'm gonna play the h/c on bet365 (Donegal +7) @ 21/20

davidfitz22

DoctaDee wrote: »

Truthfully, I'm gonna play the h/c on bet365 (Donegal +7) @ 21/20

You could probably get away with Donegal +3. better odds

Amprodude

Nidgeweasel wrote: »

Dublin, the greatest side to ever play football to win by 40 points after they unleash the bench (tm) Who by themselves would probably win the all Ireland.

Just why Dublin will freeze one day. Kerry will take them like they have for most of history.

davidfitz22

Amprodude wrote: »

Just why Dublin will freeze one day. Kerry will take them like they have for most of history.

Would you like some fish with that chip on your shoulder?

Amprodude

davidfitz22 wrote: »

Would you like some fish with that chip on your shoulder?

Fish and chips be nice alright.

mickoftheglens

What road do the Donegal ones take to Dublin?
I'd love to get a ween of people together and stand with Dublin jerseys and flags somewhere so i would

2moreMinutes

mickoftheglens wrote: »

What road do the Donegal ones take to Dublin?
I'd love to get a ween of people together and stand with Dublin jerseys and flags somewhere so i would

Those of us driving will just take the motorway straight from Donegal Town. The rest will probably take the train from Ballybofey.

mickoftheglens

not worth the trek