Rotherham child sex ring

Hootanany

10.11 She described a particular case that was 'the final straw'. In 2001, a young girl who had been repeatedly raped had tried to escape her perpetrators but was terrified of reprisals. They had allegedly put all the windows in at the parental home and broken both of her brother's legs 'to send a message'. At that point, the child agreed to make a complaint to the Police. The researcher took her to the police station office where she would be interviewed in advance in order to familiarise her with the place and the officer who would be conducting the interview. Whilst there, the girl received a text from the main perpetrator. He had with him her 11-year old sister. He said repeatedly to her 'your choice…'. The girl did not proceed with the complaint. She disengaged from the pilot and project and is quoted by the researcher as saying 'you can't protect me'. This incident raised questions about how the perpetrator knew where the young woman was and what she was doing."

5.9 In two of the cases we read, fathers tracked down their daughters and tried to remove them from houses where they were being abused, only to be arrested themselves when police were called to the scene. In a small number of cases (which have already received media attention) the victims were arrested for offences such as breach of the peace or being drunk and disorderly, with no action taken against the perpetrators of rape and sexual assault against children."


This is just sickoning PC brigade hang your head in shame at this one.


http://m.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089

Shocked and dumbfounded on this one.

The Peanut

Dear Christ. Death is too good for them.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Hootanany wrote: »

PC brigade hang your head in shame at this one.

What?

Links234

Hootanany wrote: »

PC brigade hang your head in shame at this one.

The hell does that have to do with anything?

Jesus, some people would shoe-horn their axe grinding into anything, THANKS OBAMA :rolleyes:

Hootanany

Hootanany wrote: »

This is just sickoning PC brigade hang your head in shame at this one.

Do you think the PC in PC brigade stands for Police Constable?

Hootanany

Read the link

Lapin

After Rochdale its the police and social services hands are almost tied behind their back in cases like this.

Very disturbing and sickening reports coming out of Rotheram.

It will be interesting to see where this ends.

fatknacker

I don't understand this story. Where were the 1,400 children from?

4zn76tysfajdxp

Candie wrote: »

Do you think the PC in PC brigade stands for Police Constable?

He sounds like a sidekick in a kids cartoon about bumbling cops.

Pumpkinseeds

I think what the OP means is that apparently, the police didn't do much as they were afraid of being labelled as racist. Clearly if the police hadn't been so concerned about accusations of racism action might have been taken much sooner.

The usual "fear of racism" bull**** excuse. The cops covered up and ignored crimes for reasons that we can only speculate on. They'd prefer to claim they were afraid of being accused of racism rather than the truth that would likely lead to them all losing their jobs.

Hootanany

Maddison Vast Skateboard wrote: »

He sounds like a sidekick in a kids cartoon about bumbling cops.

"By far the majority of perpetrators were described as Asian by victims." But, she said, councillors seemed to think is was a one-off problem they hoped would go away and "several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist".


PC BRIGADE STRIKES AGAIN.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Hootanany wrote: »

10.11 She described a particular case that was 'the final straw'. In 2001, a young girl who had been repeatedly raped had tried to escape her perpetrators but was terrified of reprisals. They had allegedly put all the windows in at the parental home and broken both of her brother's legs 'to send a message'. At that point, the child agreed to make a complaint to the Police. The researcher took her to the police station office where she would be interviewed in advance in order to familiarise her with the place and the officer who would be conducting the interview. Whilst there, the girl received a text from the main perpetrator. He had with him her 11-year old sister. He said repeatedly to her 'your choice…'. The girl did not proceed with the complaint. She disengaged from the pilot and project and is quoted by the researcher as saying 'you can't protect me'. This incident raised questions about how the perpetrator knew where the young woman was and what she was doing."

5.9 In two of the cases we read, fathers tracked down their daughters and tried to remove them from houses where they were being abused, only to be arrested themselves when police were called to the scene. In a small number of cases (which have already received media attention) the victims were arrested for offences such as breach of the peace or being drunk and disorderly, with no action taken against the perpetrators of rape and sexual assault against children."


This is just sickoning PC brigade hang your head in shame at this one.


http://m.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089

Shocked and dumbfounded on this one.

How do you know the Police Constable was called Brigade? Doesn't say it in the article?

biko

Yeah unfortunately the fear of being called racist have caused the UK police to turn a blind eye to these pedo rings for a very long time.

fatknacker

Maybe it was PC Briget? I hear she's a demon in the sack.

Hootanany

Hootanany wrote: »

"By far the majority of perpetrators were described as Asian by victims." But, she said, councillors seemed to think is was a one-off problem they hoped would go away and "several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist".


PC BRIGADE STRIKES AGAIN.

1400 kids was a one-off?

YouTookMyName

Rotherham's a shít hole.

Donkey Oaty

We get to hate Asians, the police, the UK government, Yorkshire local government, the PC Brigade and paedophiles in the same story.

Something for everyone there.

I wish I could say I can't believe people are swallowing the "fear of being racist" line but I can't.

There's been plenty of cases like this all across the UK for decades. There was no "PC" excuse for any of those cases, the cops were just, to give them a huge benefit of the doubt, inept and idiotic. When there's Asians involved it's a racial/PC issue for some reason.

statesaver

It seems to me that the pedo ring had people (fellow pedos) in the right places to gently subdue any investigations. This was rape on an industrial scale.

As Lapin above said; It will be interesting to see where this ends

marklazarcovic

jesus christ

truffle5

Utterly horrifying story. I wonder are similar pedohpile rings being operated by Muslim gangs in Ireland? I've noticed Pakistani-looking men chatting up underage white girls outside Dr Quirkeys on O' O'Connell st in Dublin. Very sleazy and unsettling.

truffle5

truffle5 wrote: »

Utterly horrifying story. I wonder are similar pedohpile rings being operated by Muslim gangs in Ireland? I've noticed Pakistani-looking men chatting up underage white girls outside Dr Quirkeys on O' O'Connell st in Dublin. Very sleazy and unsettling.

And we're off.

ceadaoin.

biko wrote: »

Yeah unfortunately the fear of being called racist have caused the UK police to turn a blind eye to these pedo rings for a very long time.

And what about all the other non Asian child sex rings that it appears they also turned a blind eye to? The ones operating around care homes for years. What is their reasoning for that?

truffle5

ceadaoin. wrote: »

And what about all the other non Asian child sex rings that it appears they also turned a blind eye to? The ones operating around care homes for years. What is their reasoning for that?

Whataboutery. We're talking about the endemic abuse of white children at the hands of Pakistani pimps. Stick to the topic.

biko

biko wrote: »

Yeah unfortunately the fear of being called racist have caused the UK police to turn a blind eye to these pedo rings for a very long time.

I think if the Jimmy Savile and BBC saga has taught us anything it's that it's more likely to be recitent ineptitude than racism.

Lapin

truffle5 wrote: »

Utterly horrifying story. I wonder are similar pedohpile rings being operated by Muslim gangs in Ireland? I've noticed Pakistani-looking men chatting up underage white girls outside Dr Quirkeys on O' O'Connell st in Dublin. Very sleazy and unsettling.

^^^^^^

marklazarcovic wrote: »

jesus christ

Exactly.

Tail Docker

How the fcuk did the father trying to recover his child, end up getting arrested?? That goes beyond inept, that's fcuking complicit.

Mod

OP, I want you to explain exactly what you mean by that PC brigade sentence. Please.

truffle5

truffle5 wrote: »

Whataboutery. We're talking about the endemic abuse of white children at the hands of Pakistani pimps. Stick to the topic.

Not whataboutery. It's been the case that child sex rings have operated without police action regardless of the ethnicity of the perpetrators.

I don't think you get to tell people what to talk about either.

My name is URL

In two of the cases we read, fathers tracked down their daughters and tried to remove them from houses where they were being abused, only to be arrested themselves when police were called to the scene.

I cannot wrap my head around that at all. How does it even happen once let alone multiple times?

truffle5

Candie wrote: »

Not whataboutery. It's been the case that child sex rings have operated without police action regardless of the ethnicity of the perpetrators.

I don't think you get to tell people what to talk about either.

Oh so we can chat about cornflakes in the thread I presume? No - the topic is the Pakistani pedophile rings that have abused a horrifying 1400 children in England with impunity for over a decade. You can be banned for going off-topic.

The more pertinent question is: why are you trying to obstruct discussion of this news piece?

GLaDOS

Tail Docker wrote: »

How the fcuk did the father trying to recover his child, end up getting arrested?? That goes beyond inept, that's fcuking complicit.

I'd really like to know what exactly happened there myself

P_1

Disgusting. Also I'm not buying the 'afraid of being seen as racist' line for a second. Clearly a member of this sick ring was in a high enough position to be able to impede on the investigation.

Ranchu

The South Yorkshire Police aren't having a great couple of years. Cover up for Hillsborough exposed and now this. Saps.

My name is URL

My name is URL wrote: »

I cannot wrap my head around that at all. How does it even happen once let alone multiple times?

The girls could have objected to being taken away and complained as such to the cops. Abused kids often identify with their abusers, as a form of Stockholm Syndrome, and possibly with the use of the kind of threats as detailed in the linked article. Terrorised people have difficulty in maintaining a rational perspective

Assuming the girls in question were over 18, of course.

truffle5

truffle5 wrote: »

Oh so we can chat about cornflakes in the thread I presume? No - the topic is the Pakistani pedophile rings that have abused a horrifying 1400 children in England with impunity for over a decade. You can be banned for going off-topic.

The more pertinent question is: why are you trying to obstruct discussion of this news piece?

Give over.

The fact is that these abuses aren't limited to gangs of any particular background. Insisting the discussion is limited to one ethnic group is telling.

ceadaoin.

truffle5 wrote: »

Whataboutery. We're talking about the endemic abuse of white children at the hands of Pakistani pimps. Stick to the topic.

Well a poster asserted it was fear of being labelled racist that prevented the police from taking action. I disagree with that, as other similar but not predominantly Asian, abuse rings have been uncovered where no police action was taken despite victims coming forward.

It makes me feel sick that child abuse is so rampant in society, does it really matter what ethnicity the perpetrators are? Nothing was done to help these and other kids and it's sickening.

My name is URL

Candie wrote: »

The girls could have objected to being taken away and complained as such to the cops. Abused kids often identify with their abusers, as a form of Stockholm Syndrome, and possibly with the use of the kind of threats as detailed in the linked article. Terrorised people have difficulty in maintaining a rational perspective

Assuming the girls in question were over 18, of course.

But even so, surely police would investigate the matter if the men were genuinely claiming that the girls were their daughters... not just show up, make an arrest and then forget about it.

Mind boggling stuff.

Tail Docker

Candie wrote: »

The girls could have objected to being taken away and complained as such to the cops. Abused kids often identify with their abusers, as a form of Stockholm Syndrome, and possibly with the use of the kind of threats as detailed in the linked article. Terrorised people have difficulty in maintaining a rational perspective

Assuming the girls in question were over 18, of course.

Child sex ring. Hence likely <18. So the parent finds where his child is being held, causes a scene and the police arrest him and leave the child with her abusers? i really don't care about the semantics, that's just utterly, despicably, stomach churningly wrong on a million levels. There's should be a raft of dismissals. Not fit for purpose.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Deleted User wrote: »

Mod

OP, I want you to explain exactly what you mean by that PC brigade sentence. Please.

Dont think he or she is coming back, to be honest.

My name is URL

My name is URL wrote: »

But even so, surely police would investigate the matter if the men were genuinely claiming that the girls were their daughters... not just show up, make an arrest and then forget about it.

Mind boggling stuff.

It does make you wonder how complicit the police might have been. The certainly dismissed many complaints about Savile over the years.

truffle5

Unbelievable. I didn't think anybody would be so low, so warped, so neurotic as to engage in whataboutery in such a serious case. Every single one of the 11 men arrested was Pakistani. This is a fact. You can't spin this to blame straight white males.

Immigration needs to be seriously curtailed from these countries. Pakistan is a relatively uncivilized third world country and they don't share the same respect for women or children that most of us do in the West.

statesaver

How is it racist to identify the race of someone?

Tipsy McSwagger

statesaver wrote: »

How is it racist to identify the race of someone?

In Britain you can only be racist if you are a white person*.



Edit -By the media

El Weirdo

statesaver wrote: »

How is it racist to identify the race of someone?

It isn't, but it is racist to suggest that the reason the perpetrators carried out this crime was solely due to their ethnicity, and not just the fact that they are scumbags.

Links234

truffle5 wrote: »

Unbelievable. I didn't think anybody would be so low, so warped, so neurotic as to engage in whataboutery in such a serious case. Every single one of the 11 men arrested was Pakistani. This is a fact. You can't spin this to blame straight white males.

Immigration needs to be seriously curtailed from these countries. Pakistan is a relatively uncivilized third world country and they don't share the same respect for women or children that most of us do in the West.

And I'm shocked that anyone could be so disguting, so warped as to take a case like this and twist it into a stick to beat the so-called "PC Brigade" with, AND further denigrate everyone from a different country as uncivilized, as if we didn't have our own Catholic child rapists being constantly covered up for and investigations impeded. No, clearly this is a problem with them uncivilized brown people, obviously :rolleyes:

I'm actually seriously ****ing angry reading this pile of drivel.

truffle5

El Weirdo wrote: »

It isn't, but it is racist to suggest that the reason the perpetrators carried out this crime was solely due to their ethnicity, and not just the fact that they are scumbags.

That's too simplistic. You're willfully ignoring patterns that can help us prevent this sort of abuse happening in the future. Is there something about Pakistani/Islamic culture that would encourage this sort of behavior? I understand child brides and forced marriages are common over in Pakistan. Mohammed himself married a 9 year old child. I personally don't want this sort of "culture" to be inflected upon my daughter.

truffle5

Links234 wrote: »

And I'm shocked that anyone could be so warped as to take a case like this and twist it into a stick to beat the so-called "PC Brigade" with, AND further denigrate everyone from a different country as uncivilized, as if we didn't have our own Catholic child rapists being constantly covered up for and investigations impeded. No, clearly this is a problem with them uncivilized brown people, obviously :rolleyes:

I'm actually seriously ****ing angry reading this pile of drivel.

You don't have the right to not get angry. How about getting outraged at Pakistani pedophile gangs grooming white children for sex rather than getting angry at an internet post?

El Weirdo

truffle5 wrote: »

You don't have the right to not get angry. How about getting outraged at Pakistani pedophile gangs grooming white children for sex rather than getting angry at an internet post?

Why not just get outraged at paedophile gangs grooming children? What difference does their ethnicity make?

truffle5 banned.

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