toilet not refilling

GoodLord

Why would a toilet not refill when flushed.? Tried lifting up the ballcock but no water comes in. Sometimes a dribble will and it may fill over a period of hours. And it does not empty completely about an inch of water remains under ballcock

The water into house is on taps work OK.

In case I need to do so does the water valve under sink stop water going in to toilet as well

Does flushed waste from an upstairs toilet go out the same route as the downstairs one.?

Kimbot

Water should be coming direct from the tank so I would assume there is a blockage in a pipe somewhere.

quinnp

GoodLord wrote: »

Why would a toilet not refill when flushed.? Tried lifting up the ballcock but no water comes in. Sometimes a dribble will and it may fill over a period of hours.

The water into house is on taps work OK.

In case I need to do so does the water valve under sink stop water going in to toilet as well

Does flushed waste from an upstairs toilet go out the same route as the downstairs one.?

I had the same problem. The black rubber seal that the ball cock controls to let in water was stuck. I turned off water feed to the cistern and replaced the seal and it sorted it. Hope this helps.

GoodLord

jonny24ie wrote: »

Water should be coming direct from the tank so I would assume there is a blockage in a pipe somewhere.

it comes from tank in attic not in from road?

GoodLord

quinnp wrote: »

I had the same problem. The black rubber seal that the ball cock controls to let in water was stuck. I turned off water feed to the cistern and replaced the seal and it sorted it. Hope this helps.

how do you turn off water to cistern and where is that black rubber seal?

thanks

melon_collie

The water filling your cistern comes from the tank in the attic. There should be a valve on the pipe coming from the tank in attic with a round red head on it. turn this to shut off water to the cistern.

Can you confirm what type of ball cock you have? is it the old style ones similar to the one below?

GoodLord

Ok here is a video. http://videobam.com/vOkAY

The water should come through the clear plastic tube. Where i take off the white connector at 30 seconds there is water in the hole under that.

Where is the black rubber seal quionnp refers to? Is it at very right inside cistern where the pipe feeds the water in?

Thanks

quinnp

GoodLord wrote: »

Ok here is a video. http://videobam.com/vOkAY

The water should come through the clear plastic tube. Where i take off the white connector at 30 seconds there is water in the hole under that.

Where is the black rubber seal quionnp refers to? Is it at very right inside cistern where the pipe feeds the water in?

Thanks

Yes., between where the ballcock connects to the water feed. It stops the water entering the tank.

melon_collie

Turn of water from attic. If you are unsure about what valves to turn I would just turn off all 'red headed' valves around the copper clyiinder in your hot press. Make a note which ones you've closed so that you can undo when you're finished.

Go to cistern. You need to unscrew the whole white fitting using the screw connector on the right hand end of the white fitting. It could be blocked here. sometimes there are little filters at this point. It cold be just a matter of clearning filter and reconnecting.

If that doesn't work then unscrew the end of that plastic white fitting (the end that has the little nipple which moves when the ballcock pushes against when full).

When that is off, look into the end and you will see a rubber seal in there. The rubber seal seals the pipe when the nipple pushes against it and prevents water from entering the cistern.That could be stuck and just need to be released manually.

GoodLord

Thanks guys. Is this the seal or am i wrong?

melon_collie

GoodLord wrote: »

Thanks guys. Is this the seal or am i wrong?

No. The seal is inside the part at the left hand end of the whole white fitting. Lift the ball cock manually by hand as if it's being raised by the water level and you will see the end of the ball cock push on the nipple at the end of the white fitting. The seal is inside at the back of the nipple.

unscrew the end of the fitting which contains the nipple.

GoodLord

melon_collie wrote: »

No. The seal is inside the part at the left hand end of the whole white fitting. Lift the ball cock manually by hand as if it's being raised by the water level and you will see the end of the ball cock push on the nipple at the end of the white fitting. The seal is inside at the back of the nipple.

unscrew the end of the fitting which contains the nipple.

OK guys thanks

GoodLord

melon_collie wrote: »

Turn of water from attic. If you are unsure about what valves to turn I would just turn off all 'red headed' valves around the copper clyiinder in your hot press. Make a note which ones you've closed so that you can undo when you're finished.

Go to cistern. You need to unscrew the whole white fitting using the screw connector on the right hand end of the white fitting. It could be blocked here. sometimes there are little filters at this point. It cold be just a matter of clearning filter and reconnecting.

If that doesn't work then unscrew the end of that plastic white fitting (the end that has the little nipple which moves when the ballcock pushes against when full).

When that is off, look into the end and you will see a rubber seal in there. The rubber seal seals the pipe when the nipple pushes against it and prevents water from entering the cistern.That could be stuck and just need to be released manually.

Is this right?

dodzy

GoodLord

dodzy wrote: »

Fair play

dodzy

And looks like this..... €2 max in any plumbing suppliers. Buy a couple, if you have other similar systems in the house. They tend to go out in sympathy with one another.

GoodLord

dodzy wrote: »

And looks like this..... €2 max in any plumbing suppliers. Buy a couple, if you have other similar systems in the house. They tend to go out in sympathy with one another.

thanks again . one more thing will i get airlock if i turn off the two red valves in hot press? and as there is hardly any water going in how will i know i have turned off the right ones. There are just two in hot press upstairs and the toilet is downstairs. I do not see any valves downstairs. It must be one of the ones in hot press?

dodzy

GoodLord wrote: »

thanks again . one more thing will i get airlock if i turn off the two red valves in hot press? and as there is hardly any water going in how will i know i have turned off the right ones. There are just two in hot press upstairs and the toilet is downstairs. I do not see any valves downstairs. It must be one of the ones in hot press?

Most likely is in the hot-press. And it will most likely be on a vertical pipe which runs from the attic above. If you have a bathroom upstairs, near the hot-press, just run the hot & cold wash hand basin taps and turn off the valves one at a time. No airlocks to worry about. When the cold tap dies off, you've got it (most likely). You can verify when you pop downstairs, and unscrew the outer part in indicated in the earlier pic. You'll be fine.

agusta

GoodLord wrote: »

thanks again . one more thing will i get airlock if i turn off the two red valves in hot press? and as there is hardly any water going in how will i know i have turned off the right ones. There are just two in hot press upstairs and the toilet is downstairs. I do not see any valves downstairs. It must be one of the ones in hot press?

Check that there is no cold water coming out of the cold tap on the sink in the bathroom downstairs where your toilet is.Just on the off chance that the cold water is connected to the mains in that bathroom.

Limestone1

GoodLord wrote: »

Why would a toilet not refill when flushed.? Tried lifting up the ballcock but no water comes in.

Push down the ballcock

dodzy

Limestone1 wrote: »

Push down the ballcock

OP says there's feck all water coming out of it. Only dripping.