Traveller buried in €28,000 coffin

vandriver

realweirdo wrote: »

Have the Criminal Assets Bureau ever acted against travellers? Many have serious wealth and how it was achieved is dubious. Surely this guy was a prime candidate for CAB investigation.

He was investigated and paid up in 2005.

The Th!ng

Me? wrote: »

No mention that the man was killed in a cold blooded manner in front of his children. Just an excuse by most on this forum to attack every traveller.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Stella Virgo

crikey thats some box........:eek: i cannot wait to see the size of the .....headstone

Me?

The Th!ng wrote: »

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

He was shot. Seems unfair.

FloatingVoter

Me? wrote: »

No mention that the man was killed in a cold blooded manner in front of his children. Just an excuse by most on this forum to attack every traveller.

Him and his gang got their rocks off travelling around the country, beating up and robbing elderly people. I sincerely hope he suffered and I feel nothing for his family.

Luke92

How does the cab actually work? There is a drug dealer in dublin, never worked a day in his life. Well known violent dealer who owns a huge house with a Bentley and TWO new range rovers outside. Also owns other properties in Spain and Britain.

His kids are on social media showing off atleast a dozen high price watches and other various luxurys (which are all very expensive).

Yet he keeps all of these obviously illegal gains! Absolutely crazy.

con___manx1

Sir Oxman wrote: »

I'd like to know that too.
I can guess the answer is no.

Travellers are protected.

The guards should be disbanded and a real police force established.

Travelers in my area were caught for burglary. My father seen the same travellers at Sunday evening mass ; )

Me?

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Him and his gang got their rocks off travelling around the country, beating up and robbing elderly people. I sincerely hope he suffered and I feel nothing for his family.

I feel for your lack of sympathy towards his children.

FloatingVoter

Me? wrote: »

I feel for your lack of sympathy towards his children.

Now imagine your elderly mother getting her jaw broken by him. It'll help you in your empathy.

Me?

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Now imagine your elderly mother getting her jaw broken by him. It'll help you in your empathy.

What the **** kind of an answer is that?

FloatingVoter

An answer. I'll pray for you.

Me?

FloatingVoter wrote: »

An answer. I'll pray for you.

Not much point.

RealExpert

Padraig Nally fair play to him was dead right "shoot first and ask no questions"

Cee-Jay-Cee

Look people were all forgetting the bigger picture here....a scumbag lowlife is dead, that has to be a good thing. Hopefully his associates will be following him In the near future.

FullblownRose

con___manx1 wrote: »

Travelers in my area were caught for burglary. My father seen the same travellers at Sunday evening mass ; )

I get that it's hypocritical, but surely the worse you've been, the more masses you have to go to? I don't understand how that whole relion thing works.

josip

This thread will look like the spanish flag by sunrise

RealExpert

FullblownRose wrote: »

I get that it's hypocritical, but surely the worse you've been, the more masses you have to go to? I don't understand how that whole relion thing works.

I agree 100% with the above. Its the same in a local church here, they do their visits most wkends. The light all the candles that will fit on the stand. They kneel down they stand up they are goin in and out at no mans rate. Even the children have the same antics. I think they are thanking jesus for not getting caught on the job the night before.

padd b1975

Funerals.....

The more money that's spent on them, the cheaper they look.

FullblownRose

RealExpert wrote: »

I agree 100% with the above. Its the same in a local church here, they do their visits most wkends. The light all the candles that will fit on the stand. They kneel down they stand up they are goin in and out at no mans rate. Even the children have the same antics. I think they are thanking jesus for not getting caught on the job the night before.

I had to lol at that last bit even though i worked with travellers and i should be giving out about something, discrimination or something, feck it. that was funny.

foxy farmer

If only a genuine law abiding citizen shot him after being rumbled during a burglary.
Padraig Nally's actions forced a change in the law regarding defending yourself and your property. At least now they're fair game.

Its Only Ray Parlour

con___manx1 wrote: »

Travelers in my area were caught for burglary. My father seen the same travellers at Sunday evening mass ; )

I like the irony of Travelers being devout Catholics even though they gain most of their wealth by breaking the 7th Commandment: You shall not steal.

robertpatterson

con___manx1 wrote: »

Travelers in my area were caught for burglary. My father seen the same travellers at Sunday evening mass ; )

Were they priests?

NightOfTheHunt

Travelling the length and breadth of the country, tying up, gagging and kicking the sh1t out of pensioners is all part of their vibrant culture and heritage which must be respected and cherished.

BlaasForRafa

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Those houses are locked up most of the year. They're on the continent running scams. Rathkeale is the Beverly Hills of knackerdom though. Not every traveller owns a mansion straight out of a 1980s soap opera.

Perhaps we could tell the IDF that palestinians were launching rockets from Rathkeale?

Glad I skipped to the last post so I could get to the crux of the matter.

Cantremember

Me? wrote: »

I feel for your lack of sympathy towards his children.

He lived a life of crime and intimidation that endangered his own. He obviously had no sympathy for them or their safety by endangering his own family in this way.
The bigger point for you to learn is that the sympathy card worked in the 70's the 80's and the 90's. We can see where it got us. Things have changed: people want standards enforced on those who try to bully and terrorise their way. If they rot in jail while some law abiding person can live their life in peace so much the better.

weiland79

It's being reported this morning that his family are keeping guard at his grave until it's capped, as he was buried with €100000 worth of jewellery.

anncoates

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Had to laugh when the news of the shooting was on the radio and his neighbours were interviewed saying what a nice neighbour he was. This was just after the newsreader had described him as a serial burglar. What a great neighbour, he goes to someone elses estate to break in to their houses. A real hero.

Because you're going to go on national TV and admit you couldn't care less that your traveler criminal neighbour got shot.

irishgeo

What I can't understand is that they are very religious and yet seen to break the 10 commandments with ease.

DrGreenthumb

irishgeo wrote: »

What I can't understand is that they are very religious and yet seen to break the 10 commandments with ease.

The lower your intelligence the greater your belief in god

weiland79

DrGreenthumb wrote: »

The lower your intelligence the greater your belief in god

That's a bit of a nonsense comment to be fair.

Celticfire

irishgeo wrote: »

What I can't understand is that they are very religious and yet seen to break the 10 commandments with ease.

It's not like they're written in stone..........

Cee-Jay-Cee

irishgeo wrote: »

What I can't understand is that they are very religious and yet seen to break the 10 commandments with ease.

It's because they can't read and don't know what the ten commandments say.

DrGreenthumb

weiland79 wrote: »

That's a bit of a nonsense comment to be fair.

So if I was to preech about a mystical dude that lived before my time that had magical powers and his dad created the universe and everything in it, but i have no proof what so ever to back up this claim, on a scale of 1-10 (10 being the highest) rate my intellengence

weiland79

DrGreenthumb wrote: »

So if I was to preech about a mystical dude that lived before my time that had magical powers and his dad created the universe and everything in it, but i have no proof what so ever to back up this claim, on a scale of 1-10 (10 being the highest) rate my intellengence

I'm not going to get into a theological debate with you as i don't happen to believe either. But It's a pretty daft assumption to make, that only people with low IQ believe in a higher power. It's simply not true.

Grayson

weiland79 wrote: »

I'm not going to get into a theological debate with you as i don't happen to believe either. But It's a pretty daft assumption to make, that only people with low IQ believe in a higher power. It's simply not true.

You're right, there are many very smart people who believe in some sort of higher power.

However, studies have shown, on average the IQ of atheists is higher than that of religious people. And the more religious someone is, the more likely there are to have a lower IQ.

That's all averages though, it tells you about groups, not individuals.

GrumpyMe

Grayson wrote: »

...And the more religious someone is, the more likely there are to have a lower IQ...

Father Ted:...The favourite son would become a doctor and then the idiot brother would be sent off to the priesthood.
Father Dougal: Your brother is a doctor isn't he?
Father Ted: Yes he is.

QED

fedor.2.

weiland79 wrote: »

It's being reported this morning that his family are keeping guard at his grave until it's capped, as he was buried with €100000 worth of jewellery.

That's some pharaoh sh1t, if true. If he had stolen from my family, I'd give it a week or two and dig the fuker up

Wibbs

Me? wrote: »

No mention that the man was killed in a cold blooded manner in front of his children. Just an excuse by most on this forum to attack every traveller.

It is an appalling thing for anyone's children to see that. That's not in dispute.

However what is also not in dispute is this person was a career criminal responsible for untold amounts of misery in many people's lives. People are getting increasingly frustrated and angry with obvious "out in the open" criminals large and small walking free and living the high life, all too often in receipt of state benefits, while a large chunk of the rest of us law abiding people are merely getting by and quite a percentage are truly struggling.

As for his background? There are career criminals from all backgrounds, but only the most deliberately blinkered would deny that the traveling community has a larger percentage of same than background levels.

Moat_Cailin

Me? wrote: »

No mention that the man was killed in a cold blooded manner in front of his children. Just an excuse by most on this forum to attack every traveller.

White minorities are fair game.

SEPT 23 1989

He was loved so much in the community that all the local pubs were closed for various reasons on the day of the funeral,one even had chains across the doors such was the love they had for the man

Everything he stole from the people of this state should be seized including the tacky classless coffin

Shakespeare's Sister

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Had to laugh when the news of the shooting was on the radio and his neighbours were interviewed saying what a nice neighbour he was. This was just after the newsreader had described him as a serial burglar. What a great neighbour, he goes to someone elses estate to break in to their houses. A real hero.

Weird that they'd agree to talk to the radio reporter - can't they just have said to them that they didn't want to comment?

Tin Foil Hat

bonzos wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/large-garda-presence-as-gang-boss-fat-andy-connors-buried-in-28k-goldplated-coffin-30546161.html

Criminal traveller buried in €28k coffin! Why is this country so reluctant to investigate the wealth some of these people have? Any self employed person who is unlucky enough to loose his/her business will get f@ck all from the state yet many of these people who never worked openly flaunt their money no questions asked while still being state funded!

For €28k we should squeeze a few more of them in there.

oldyouth

Me? wrote: »

I feel for your lack of sympathy towards his children.

Whether his children had seen this incident or not, they were already on a path that would see them emulate their parents in the future.

I have no sympathy for those who do not seek to improve the lot of their children, NONE, and the blame for any trauma these children suffer lies within their family

Shakespeare's Sister

Unquestionably awful on the kids, who didn't choose to be born into such a life. And of course not all travellers are scumbags. But crime, intimidation and anti social behaviour among other issues are big problems throughout traveller society. Before someone says they're big problems in settled communities - yes they are, but the proportions are very different.

conorh91 wrote: »

They screw us and we screw them.

"We screw them"?

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Oh... i'm sorry.
seems you took a hard on to someone saying something negative about the guards. Also another popular stand-point on here :pac:

"ahh the poor guards" lol.

First you say, based on zero, that the guy must be one of those "The poor travellers" types, and when he points out the stupidity of same, you can't answer so you throw out the above passive-aggressive stuff. What's the point?
When people go on about how AH loves the guards (it does in its eyeball) it's quite telling. AH is full of criticism of the guards - if people defend decent guards and know what they're talking about, it's interesting when people get all ass-hurt about this.

That said, Blay, I don't think it's unreasonable to speculate that there is an element of fear among the guards when it comes to the really hard-ass criminals - it doesn't always seem like they have the resources to deal with them. Why are you so adamant there's definitely no fear?

Lapin

May the scumbag rot in the furthest pits of hell.

GrumpyMe

Lapin wrote: »

May the scumbag rot in the furthest pits of hell.

Eh St Michael's Cemetery in Gorey - but close enough!:D

anncoates

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

He was loved so much in the community that all the local pubs were closed for various reasons on the day of the funeral,one even had chains across the doors such was the love they had for the man

Not wanting your pub smashed up is racist don't you know.

Celly Smunt

weiland79 wrote: »

It's being reported this morning that his family are keeping guard at his grave until it's capped, as he was buried with €100000 worth of jewellery.

And I'm sure its being protected with a few hurls and the odd stick....


Why don't the guards go down and search the lads holding the guns?

Little CuChulainn

Luke92 wrote: »

Why are you so adamant there's definitely no fear?

Presumably because it's based on nothing. 3 Gardaí injured every day would indicate that individual Gardaí do not suffer from any sort of cowardice when it comes to violent people. The fact that people like Gilligan, Dundon and O'Driscoll were all put away would indicate that the real hardass criminals are indeed put away.

As a Garda you can never win public opinion. You don't chase a car full of thieves, you're a coward. You do chase it, you're reckless. You don't server warrants on people, you're not doing your job. You do serve warrants on people, you're putting decent folk in jail. Stop a guy for speeding, you're letting murderers get away.