Burnley v Man Utd 12.45pm Kick off BT Sport 1

twam2008

That was criminal by Mata!

Harry Palmr

Fletcher on a yellow in the first half with no bench cover (well Anderson) is an accident waiting to happen.

Knex*

CSF wrote: »

Hard to grasp what Van Gaal is aiming for with his approach here

Take a look at the bench though, and options available, I'm struggling to see what else he can do, really.

Nalz

Mata Wtf shít pass

CSF

Knex. wrote: »

Take a look at the bench though, and options available, I'm struggling to see what else he can do, really.

Change the formation. 4 at the back, shuffle around a bit.

Kerrydude1981

Evans would want to concentrate on his own job first before he starts telling DDG what to do.

Liam O

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Evans would want to concentrate on his own job first before he starts telling DDG what to do.

He's right. De Gea has been useless this season coming off his line. The difference between him and Courtois has been huge in this regard.

twam2008

Just awful. Players look light, afraid of a challenge, players like Mata don't want to get stuck in and reverting to long balls which Burnley are lapping up.

Fs surely a push

MagicIRL

Looked a penalty to me.

allthedoyles

diabolical

michael999999

Bloody dive again!

Lord TSC

Looked a penalty on Young.

Zico

This is horrific.

Three poor CBs passing the ball to each other before bogging aimlessly forward.

Di Maria must have a sore neck by now.

Heisenberg1

Lovely dive from Young there.

Kharrell

Few bright moments from Di Maria aside, piss poor from United.

****ing hell RVP.

Liam O

Some giving Young's diving skill far too much credit, but then people blinded by bias and looking to inflame will do that.

CSF

Ashley Young would really wanna cop on. You'd literally have to be 100% sure to give a penalty to him at this stage because he dives pretty much every time.

Harry Palmr

Match

42% Ball Possession 58%
6 Goal Attempts 1
2 Shots on Goal 1
2 Shots off Goal 0
2 Blocked Shots 0

Knex*

CSF wrote: »

Change the formation. 4 at the back, shuffle around a bit.

There's nobody really to play the fullback positions.

There's only James on the bench, to be fair.

Aidric

Searching for positives from that first half.

Hmm, at least we didn't concede.

Nolars

poor from united, 4-3-3 second half plz

Too Tough To Die

I wish we'd have cashed in on RVP in the summer and bought someone a little more mobile.

MagicMarker

Is welbeck on the bench? I'd bring him on for van persie, and Adnan on for Young. Go 442.

I'd even have Anderson on for fletcher.

Nailz

Stonewall penalty. Michael Owen is a terrible co-commentator.

We've seen a few lovely glimpses of magic from Di Maria.

Darkglasses

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

I wish we'd have cashed in on RVP in the summer and bought someone a little more mobile.

Were clubs linked with him?

CSF

Knex. wrote: »

There's nobody really to play the fullback positions.

There's only James on the bench, to be fair.

Blackett left, Valencia right perhaps? Think that's what was done against Swansea

bmcc10

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

I wish we'd have cashed in on RVP in the summer and bought someone a little more mobile.

Hate seeing sh1te like this.

Fescue

If it was anyone but LVG, you would be thinking this guy doesn't have a clue what he's doing.

He needs to lose the 3 at the back. I wonder if he's too stubborn to do so.

Di Maria looks quality. The rest look poor. RVP especially.

Knex*

CSF wrote: »

Blackett left, Valencia right perhaps? Think that's what was done against Swansea

Suppose, doesn't exactly inspire confidence though!

Even if United had Carrick, Herrera, of Fellaini on the bench, they could do that, sub on one of those three, push Di Maria out wide, and get a bit more shape and balance to the team, going 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1, or something.

As things stand though, I do think LVG's hands are a little tied in terms of options available to him.

CSF

Fescue wrote: »

If it was anyone but LVG, you would be thinking this guy doesn't have a clue what he's doing.

He needs to lose the 3 at the back. I wonder if he's too stubborn to do so.

Di Maria looks quality. The rest look poor. RVP especially.

I think with Di Maria it was largely a 5-10 minute spell of brilliance, faded out as the half went on. RVP is having a nightmare yeah.

case885

MagicMarker wrote: »

Is welbeck on the bench? I'd bring him on for van persie, and Adnan on for Young. Go 442.

I'd even have Anderson on for fletcher.

Fletcher is bad but no way should anderson see the field unless theres an injury.

Backstreet Moyes

CSF wrote: »

Ashley Young would really wanna cop on. You'd literally have to be 100% sure to give a penalty to him at this stage because he dives pretty much every time.

He was shoved in the side it was no dive whether or not it was a penalty is debatable, but if it was anybody besides Young nobody would be calling it a dive.

edgecutter

4-4-2 is needed. We look clueless at the moment.

Omg Evans just watched the replay of the suicide backpass

Francie Barrett

jonnyfingers

This system from Van Gaal just is not working with the current players at his disposal. I'd really like to see him change it. The main problem I can see is that we have no central midfield. Di Maria, Mata, Rooney and Van Persie are all staying in attacking positions, that leaves just Fletcher in the center. When the centre backs have the ball and look to pass to midfield the Burnley players are just blocking the path to Fletcher. That only leaves the option of a long ball or a ball square to the other centre backs. As a result Blackett and Evans are pushing very wide to give an option for a pass, however if they get the ball there they are too far wide to have the option of a pass on up the line to the wing backs. So again the only option is a ball to Fletcher, or a long ball which is what we've been doing.

I'd like to see us go 4-4-2. Put Blackett left back and Valencia right back, Young on the right wing, Di Maria on the left wing. Fletcher and Mata in the centre and Rooney and RVP up front. I think that shape will work much better against this Burnley team and Di Maria would simply skin their right back and whip balls in to the box all day long. It's abandoning LVG's system but I think we need results more right now than practising his system.

nkay1985

Not sure how Ashley Young continues to get a game. There's not many doing themselves any favours out there but he's truly awful.

Not a lot being shown from Mata, Rooney or RvP. Di Maria has looked good at least. Hard to see goals coming based on that first half performance.

CSF

Nuts102 wrote: »

He was shoved in the side it was no dive whether or not it was a penalty is debatable, but if it was anybody besides Young nobody would be calling it a dive.

Very very lightly. Not enough for him to be flinging himself to the ground like that.

I actually think there's a case for it to be a penalty looking back at it, but Young doesn't help the case.

Francie Barrett

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I'm looking forward to the spurs game

Adamocovic

So far still looking a bit shaky and lacking confidence, Di Maria however seems to be offering more going forward and is trying to thread the passes through. Hopefully one does.

De Gea has been brilliant I thought, but Evans has been very shaky in my mind. Still seem to be lacking that bit of confidence but hopefully United can get a goal to settle into it.

Will I Amnt

Too many individual and unforced errors. The back line is just a calamity, every one of them looks nervous. Roll on the international break, hopefully sneak a result out of this.

Cantona's Collars

Di Maria aside,it's the same old,same old from United.Some shocking stuff at the back.Nothing to do with the system,it's just carelessness.
Fletcher has been poor in midfield,at times it looks as if Di Maria is on his own there.

Francie Barrett

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I'm looking forward to the spurs game

Me too :cool:

Will I Amnt

Francie Barrett wrote: »

The thing is, he does have an idea what he's doing, the players just aren't up to speed with it.

Fescue

zerks wrote: »

Di Maria aside,it's the same old,same old from United.Some shocking stuff at the back.Nothing to do with the system,it's just carelessness.
Fletcher has been poor in midfield,at times it looks as if Di Maria is on his own there.

To be fair he's on his own there as Mata and Di Maria run forward. Has either made a tackle or won back possesion once during the first half?

Backstreet Moyes

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Too many individual and unforced errors. The back line is just a calamity, every one of them looks nervous. Roll on the international break, hopefully sneak a result out of this.

The system just puts pressure on the defenders. All this passing sideways while getting closed down is going to cause unforced errors i just don't see the benefit of it.

TheTownie

zerks wrote: »

Di Maria aside,it's the same old,same old from United.Some shocking stuff at the back.Nothing to do with the system,it's just carelessness.
Fletcher has been poor in midfield,at times it looks as if Di Maria is on his own there.

The system exacerbates the issue. Instead of having an extra midfielder who has some decent passing and vision, we have an extra CB who, naturally, doesn't have the passing ability or vision necessary.

ThunbergsAreGo

Will I Amnt wrote: »

The thing is, he does have an idea what he's doing, the players just aren't up to speed with it.

It is his system they are playing though, surely if its not working its HIS call to change it

3-5-2 it is. Again for 2nd half