Burnley v Man Utd 12.45pm Kick off BT Sport 1

CSF

Soups123 wrote: »

There's no rule that makes it a guarentee either, it's a split second for refs to make a call

My first and second view was no peno

I'm talking in relation to consistency with other decisions really. The guys arms are recklessly raised for a rising ball, when the ball hits his hands or arm I don't think he can be excuses under any logic.

Soups123

CSF wrote: »

I'm talking in relation to consistency with other decisions really. The guys arms are recklessly raised for a rising ball, when the ball hits his hands or arm I don't think he can be excuses under any logic.

Refs and consistency will never exist.

I get your point re his arms and I think it would be more a factor in they blocked the shot but it was his stomach with the hand hit after

shadowcomplex

Looking at city's line up there on setanta , how come city can play silva and nasri on the wings and we can't play mata there ?

Donnielighto

Aubrey loves Joe wrote: »

Keep the head up. Don't let them see you cry

When will we see the next incarnation?

shadowcomplex

Wha?

Donnielighto

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Looking at city's line up there on setanta , how come city can play silva and nasri on the wings and we can't play mata there ?

Yaya and fenandinho cover a ton of ground?

Danger781

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Looking at city's line up there on setanta , how come city can play silva and nasri on the wings and we can't play mats there ?

Mata doesn't do well there.

CSF

Soups123 wrote: »

Refs and consistency will never exist.

I get your point re his arms and I think it would be more a factor in they blocked the shot but it was his stomach with the hand hit after

I get what you're saying, I just don't think it's of any consequence when his arms are raised like that.

It's not the same as when the ball takes a wicked bounce and comes up to someone's raised arm. There's no bad luck in this one, just recklessness in his defending that should have been punished by a penalty.

Demosthenese

CSF wrote: »

I get what you're saying, I just don't think it's of any consequence when his arms are raised like that.

It's not the same as when the ball takes a wicked bounce and comes up to someone's raised arm. There's no bad luck in this one, just recklessness in his defending that should have been punished by a penalty.

So you charge around the field like Mr Bean when you run? It hit him in the stomach and touched his arm on the way down. No way intended or preventing of a goal ... reckless defending. Be more worried about the lack of chances created in the game when you have Mata/Rvp/Rooney/ADM on the field than hoping to be handed a cheap penalty.

Having watched the game i gotta say on LVG - it is one thing to have a Philosophy and to want to implement it BUT its entirely another thing to persist with a system that A) Your players are clearly not able to execute and Some are incapable of playing.

Even the substitutions were crazy bringing on Anderson???

Its truly amazing to see how bad some of the United players are.

Iused2likebusts

GavRedKing wrote: »

Burnley are no mugs. Our 3-1 win there didnt justify how well they played. Theyll be a tough team to play all season.

That game is the only time under dyche that burnley have conceded 3 goals at home. Granted the opposition will be a lot tougher this year. Two visits to turf moor in the PL for utd and no goals scored.

CSF

Demosthenese wrote: »

So you charge around the field like Mr Bean when you run? It hit him in the stomach and touched his arm on the way down. No way intended or preventing of a goal ... reckless defending. Be more worried about the lack of chances created in the game when you have Mata/Rvp/Rooney/ADM on the field than hoping to be handed a cheap penalty.

Having watched the game i gotta say on LVG - it is one thing to have a Philosophy and to want to implement it BUT its entirely another thing to persist with a system that A) Your players are clearly not able to execute and Some are incapable of playing.

Even the substitutions were crazy bringing on Anderson???

Its truly amazing to see how bad some of the United players are.

No you don't charge around, but when someone hits a rising shot you put your arms by your side, it's what you're coached from a young age. He had time.

Liam O

Danger781 wrote: »

Mata doesn't do well there.

That is very misleading. How many of his goals came from central positions for instance? I seem to remember him and Kagawa interchanging a lot in the latter stages of last season.

Andersonisgod

shadowcomplex wrote: »

Looking at city's line up there on setanta , how come city can play silva and nasri on the wings and we can't play mata there ?

He lacks speed, Silva and Nasri are hardly Olympic sprinters but they have a burst of speed and ability to carry the ball that Mata hasn't. They are more effective than Mata defensively, better at pressing, better at tracking, capable of covering more ground.

MisterAnarchy

FlawedGenius wrote: »

Paul Scholes looking so uncomfortable and out of place there on BT

He bizarrely kept on repeating that Utd need to get the ball wide more often .

Was he watching the same match as me ,because Utd's sole tactic was to pass the ball wide to the two stooges Young and Valencia who were doubled up on by Burnley .
Utds sole strategy in the second half was to play the ball down the right wing .

A truly awful performance by Utd ,they didnt trouble the Burnley goalie once, a feeble 2 shots on target in 90 minutes .
That was Burnley's first 0-0 draw in 41 Premier League games.

Oranage2

This is horrible to watch, defense is obviously told to play it out which consists of ddg to Evans, Evans to blackett, blackett to ddg and smash, sometimes blackett just smashed it himself. Not really their problem as midfield didn't show for the ball. I also thought midfield was very poor, Fletcher is finished at this level, Valencia smashed the ball at the defender all night, young is normally bad but he's absolutely terrible at wing back. Mata and strikers were shocking too

Ddg - 8 - didn't have anything to do
Evans - 3 - shocking
Blackett - 6 - passing let him down
Jones - 6 - best of the defenders, still pretty poor
Valencia - 4 - good positions did nothing with the ball
Young - 6 - wwas pretty average
Fletcher - 1 - shocking
Mata - 5 - was poor
Di Maria - 8 - looked very sharp till his injury
Rooney - 3 - rubbish
Rvp - 2 - for how many times he touched the ball all game

Nice one Burnley, cracking result

tupac_healy

rarnes1 wrote: »

Nice one Burnley, cracking result

38 more points!

davycc

newballsplease wrote: »

You dont think Utd will be up for this? Get out of it man!
This is where Utds season must start. A must win here. Forget sbout the MKDONS result. That wasnt near the starting 11 that will be out there today. Di Maria for his debut. Hope he starts with s bang.
Utd to win 2-0

an ironic good call before the game;)

michael999999

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I'm looking forward to the spurs game

Hope your enjoying it?