Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

NukaCola

SG is still a big part of our squad and does offer us something, but he is being over played and his position or role does look like a luxury role invented to shoehorn him into the team.

Harry Palmr

Which is what I said really! Crazy to end up in such a tactical pickle to appease one player.

J Mysterio

Gerrard played well the other day and had much more energy about him. It could be he will improve as the team in general has been playing badly.

That said, he looked super bright when he was moved forward. No 10 is definitely out but he should probably be played in a similar role to that which he has his whole career - CM with licence. This can happen when Can is back - switch himself and Lucas in DM. Alternate Gerrard and Allen, keep Henderson constant.

mada999

Knex. wrote: »

I just wanted to drop by to state the usual:

I hate international breaks.

i'm actually loving this one (barring anyone else gets injured), it gives our injured players more time to get back to fitness

mosstin

mada999 wrote: »

i'm actually loving this one (barring anyone else gets injured), it gives our injured players more time to get back to fitness

Indeed, like Lovren.

mada999

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Hitler jokes broadcast around the world, he really isn't the brightest spark is he?

did chaplin not have that before the hitler?!

mada999

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Which is what I said really! Crazy to end up in such a tactical pickle to appease one player.

it was always gonna happen, really difficult to phase out great players.. tbh i'd play him further forward in the 10 maybe.. at least if he loses the ball or doesnt track back then there is someone there to sweep it up

Harry Palmr

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Which is what I said really! Crazy to end up in such a tactical pickle to appease one player.

I doubt Gerrard tells the fullbacks to both steam forward with 10 mins to go when we are holding a lead. Rodgers is defensively tactically naive at times and it's on him tbh.

djPSB

J Mysterio wrote: »

Gerrard played well the other day and had much more energy about him. It could be he will improve as the team in general has been playing badly.

That said, he looked super bright when he was moved forward. No 10 is definitely out but he should probably be played in a similar role to that which he has his whole career - CM with licence. This can happen when Can is back - switch himself and Lucas in DM. Alternate Gerrard and Allen, keep Henderson constant.

Gerrard was one of best players against Everton also.

djPSB

djPSB wrote: »

Gerrard was one of best players against Everton also.

He's the scapegoat in Sakhos and Johnsons absence. Did you not receive the memo?

Kimbot

rarnes1 wrote: »

He's the scapegoat in Sakhos and Johnsons absence. Did you not receive the memo?

Must have been removed from the Panda Saps mailing list :P

Vicxas

For the slow news day thats in it:

http://www.football365.com/f365-features/9510073/Managers365

tibor

Who's #57?

dubdamo

tibor wrote: »

Who's #57?

Que "Ballotelli in training ground bust up" headlines

Iused2likebusts

NukaCola wrote: »

SG is still a big part of our squad and does offer us something, but he is being over played and his position or role does look like a luxury role invented to shoehorn him into the team.

Disagree his role in the team as DM from january till the end of last season was vital in us going on the run we went on and I wouldnt class it as a luxury role. I agree he is being overplayed but feel due to his age if he has a bad patch which he has at numerous times through his career people are overly quick to say he is finished. Players in their 30s cant seem to have a few bad games without people saying they are finished. Maybe the team isnt performing at the minute and he just isnt playing particularly well. Now eventually people will be right and he will indeed be past it but I dont think we are at that stage yet. Looking at our squad I still feel he should be first choice for the majority of games.

Colemania

tibor wrote: »

Who's #57?

Kevin Stewart?

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/team/academy/player/kevin-stewart

ike

Reus on the way...?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-news-transfers-marco-reus-4412384

Boom_Bap

ike wrote: »

Reus on the way...?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-news-transfers-marco-reus-4412384

John Henry did tweet this last month:




John W. HenryVerified account ‏@John_W_Henry

Oh and sign Reus!

Vicxas

Boom_Bap wrote: »

John Henry did tweet this last month:




John W. HenryVerified account ‏@John_W_Henry

Oh and sign Reus!

gafferino

ike wrote: »

Reus on the way...?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-news-transfers-marco-reus-4412384

SlickRic

Don't do it to yourselves lads.

gafferino

SlickRic wrote: »

Don't do it to yourselves lads.

gafferino

Jamie Carragher ✔ @Carra23

Anyone ever drive to there previous employment without thinking? I've just drove to Melwood! Supposed to be going the gym!!

gafferino

How do you post a vine clip?

Agent Coulson

gafferino wrote: »

How do you post a vine clip?

Just paste it into the link tab and Boards does the rest.

J Mysterio

Boom_Bap wrote: »

John Henry did tweet this last month:




John W. HenryVerified account ‏@John_W_Henry

Oh and sign Reus!

God if you look through his account he is being hounde d by fucķing retard liverpool fans. That is just a jokey reply of sorts/ acknowledgement of their demands.

Dickerty

gafferino wrote: »

Jamie Carragher ✔ @Carra23

Anyone ever drive to there previous employment without thinking? I've just drove to Melwood! Supposed to be going the gym!!

Can be play instead of Touré next week?

gafferino

https://vine.co/v/OAATt1UHWWn

Agent Coulson

Skrtel and Sakho then against Chelsea both kept Costa quiet at International level.

I think we will find out though it is the system and tactics not the players that affects our defence.

But it will probably be Lovren and Toure that start.

Local_Chap

Nice touch from Suárez
http://www.worldsoccer.com/news/luis-suarez-golden-shoe-award

World Soccer wrote:

Luis Suárez will be presented the European Golden Shoe by Kenny Dalglish.
Suárez arranged for Dalglish to fly to Barcelona to be part of the ceremony which will be held in the Catalan capital next Wednesday, having insisted that he wanted to share the award with his former club.
He had hoped that Steven Gerrard would be able to join him at the event too but the Liverpool captain was unable to travel. Suárez’s initial idea to receive the award in front of supporters at Anfield was not possible.

5starpool

I miss Luis

He'll start playing for Barca in a couple of weeks.

brevity

gafferino wrote: »

https://vine.co/v/OAATt1UHWWn

Can we start Sahko against Chelsea and see what happens when Costa tries to do that to him?

gafferino

brevity wrote: »

Can we start Sahko against Chelsea and see what happens when Costa tries to do that to him?

https://vine.co/v/Oud5uuAeFUa

brevity

Awesome.

dogbert27

5starpool wrote: »

I miss Luis

He'll start playing scoring for Barca in a couple of weeks.

FYP

SlickRic

Suarez is such a horrible bloke; just the worst.

Agent Coulson

Carra at it again.:D

dogbert27

gafferino wrote: »

https://vine.co/v/OAATt1UHWWn

What a knut.















Wished we'd signed him.

rob316

Diouf and Diao two examples of why you shouldn't buy players on the back of the world cup. Diao cost about £5m if I remember, that was 12 years ago and wasn't small money.

noodler

Although funny, not very nice from Carra.

K-9

DVDM93 wrote: »

Skrtel bosses Costa as he captains his side to a historic 1-0 victory over Spain.

The Slovakian Skrtel
The French Sakho
The Southampton Lovren

It's beyond me how we haven't tried to sign any of these players given out problems at CB.

That's toooooo subtle for me!

Kirby

It's a funny anecdote but it's not what I expected out of Carragher. It's fairly unprofessional and a little harsh to be bashing ex teammates like that. The sort of stuff you expect out of Keane because he's like that but although it made me chuckle, I thought Carragher was better than that.

He really has it in for diao and diouf. He keeps talking about them.

I am pie

They deserve it, for different reasons. Well played Carra, fair play for being honest.

dogbert27

Kirby wrote: »

It's a funny anecdote but it's not what I expected out of Carragher. It's fairly unprofessional and a little harsh to be bashing ex teammates like that. The sort of stuff you expect out of Keane because he's like that but although it made me chuckle, I thought Carragher was better than that.

He really has it in for diao and diouf. He keeps talking about them.

I take it you haven't read Carragher's autobiography then.

Sir Gallagher

Kirby wrote: »

It's a funny anecdote but it's not what I expected out of Carragher. It's fairly unprofessional and a little harsh to be bashing ex teammates like that. The sort of stuff you expect out of Keane because he's like that but although it made me chuckle, I thought Carragher was better than that.

He really has it in for diao and diouf. He keeps talking about them.

I don't know, have you ever worked with somebody so useless at their job that after a while their presence simply becomes offensive. Even if they're nice people you can't help but think, "Fuck off".

Kirby

Absolutely but I keep it to myself. I grumble to myself and complain to my friends. I don't tweet it for the world to read or write about how much I hate him in a newspaper. That's beyond crass.

I realise this comparison wont be that popular in here but compare him to his sky counterpart, Gary Neville. He wont bash his past teammates good or bad and refuses to talk about the current English players because of his involvement in the England set up.

As useless as Diao may or may not have been, it's not very professional to write things like that. Listen, it's not a huge deal and he's not the first and wont be the last to do so.....I just thought he was a classier individual than that. Obviously not.

I am pie

Kirby wrote: »

Absolutely but I keep it to myself. I grumble to myself and complain to my friends. I don't tweet it for the world to read or write about how much I hate him in a newspaper. That's beyond crass.

I realise this comparison wont be that popular in here but compare him to his sky counterpart, Gary Neville. He wont bash his past teammates good or bad and refuses to talk about the current English players because of his involvement in the England set up.

As useless as Diao may or may not have been, it's not very professional to write things like that. Listen, it's not a huge deal and he's not the first and wont be the last to do so.....I just thought he was a classier individual than that. Obviously not.

What exactly is unprofessional about being honest?

Kirby

"Borini isn't good enough for my squad, I never wanted Balotelli as he was forced on me, and I'm terrified to drop Steve G and am forced to shoe horn him into the team, sometimes to its detriment."

If Rodgers said that tomorrow would you be hailing his honesty or calling him unprofessional?

There are things you say in public and things you don't. I really shouldn't have to explain why Carragher bashing former Liverpool players is unprofessional.

gafferino

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

I don't know, have you ever worked with somebody so useless at their job that after a while their presence simply becomes offensive. Even if they're nice people you can't help but think, "Fuck off".

Having just handed in my notice this week I can relate to this x1000.

NukaCola

Kirby wrote: »

"Borini isn't good enough for my squad, I never wanted Balotelli as he was forced on me, and I'm terrified to drop Steve G and am forced to shoe horn him into the team, sometimes to its detriment."

If Rodgers said that tomorrow would you be hailing his honesty or calling him unprofessional?

There are things you say in public and things you don't. I really shouldn't have to explain why Carragher bashing former Liverpool players is unprofessional.

2 things with this.

One, the dynamic completely changes when its a manager saying this and not another team mate. Two, BR is currently working with those players.

The above situation is completely different than JC situation.

I think JC saying those things are meant to be a light hearted take on a player who was widely regarded as awful. Personally I wouldn't do it, but when your job is to analyze players how is it unprofessional to say when a player is poor?