Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

shamrock55

Dangelo Stocky Rage wrote: »

No he is playing very well and it's a disgrace he was taken off an absolute disgrace. You haven't a clue about the game you aren't even watching I'd say.

Obviously your the one who hasnt a clue if you think that, he did fcuk all hense he was taken off

Pyjamarama

martyos121 wrote: »

I gave Rodgers more than enough credit last season, and yes, we have lost a world class player, but that's no excuse for the level of play we're currently seeing from the lads. If we have little effectiveness going forward, we should at least have a solid defence. At the moment, without Sturridge, we have neither.

So having lost our two best attacking talents you don't see the reason for a drop off? The defence should be better. No doubt about that but Rodgers has done more than enough to be given plenty of time to get things right. We're a point off 4th ffs... thats the goal for this year. We were never going to be beating Real.

Francie Barrett

We're playing much better with Balo off to be honest.

martyos121

Pyjamarama wrote: »

So having lost our two best attacking talents you don't see the reason for a drop off? The defence should be better. No doubt about that but Rodgers has done more than enough to be given plenty of time to get things right. We're a point off 4th ffs... thats the goal for this year. We were never going to be beating Real.

This is the problem though. We should be beating Real. If you finish second in the toughest league in the world, you expect progress the following season. Our defence was very bad last year. It should be better this year, but no, it's even worse. Our attack was always going to be poorer minus Suarez, and Rodgers made no clear attempt to find an immediate replacement.
Bottom line is, there is no team at home we should never be beating. We're not fecking Burnley.

Agent Coulson

Sturidge will miss 10-15 games a season with injuries.

Borini looks like he will never play again for Liverpool.

Lambert doesn't have the legs anymore.

Balotelli is the scapegoat for Rodgers to blame the committee for buying players.

shamrock55

shamrock55 wrote: »

Obviously your the one who hasnt a clue if you think that, he did fcuk all hense he was taken off

Why are so many posters agreeing with me so?

Vicxas

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Sturidge will miss 10-15 games a season with injuries.

Borini looks like he will never play again for Liverpool.

Lambert doesn't have the legs anymore.

Balotelli is the scapegoat for Rodgers to blame the committee for buying players.

Rodgers buying has been for the most part a miss. He really needs less final word on signings.

shamrock55

Dangelo Stocky Rage wrote: »

Why are so many posters agreeing with me so?

Now thats a good question

Francie Barrett

Corners have been appalling, everyone is making a balls out of them.

martyos121

Benzema laughing at us because our defence is so shaky.
Says it all really.

shamrock55

shamrock55 wrote: »

Now thats a good question

It means you're wrong and haven't a clue.

Pyjamarama

Vicxas wrote: »

Rodgers buying has been for the most part a miss. He really needs less final word on signings.

Or more? But honestly i think less is likely the correct answer. I think he's a magnificent coach but his transfer record has been more miss than hit.

Charlie19

Very early in a game to make all your changes.

Hope it doesn't backfire.

kevohmsford

I thought I had seen the last of Johnson when Manquillo played a few games.

mrsoundie

Is it zonal marking that they are trying, because they are not picking people up at all. It is like they are afraid to commit to anything.

Oh well there is always the 2020 - 2021 season to look forward to.

Pyjamarama

martyos121 wrote: »

This is the problem though. We should be beating Real. If you finish second in the toughest league in the world, you expect progress the following season. Our defence was very bad last year. It should be better this year, but no, it's even worse. Our attack was always going to be poorer minus Suarez, and Rodgers made no clear attempt to find an immediate replacement.
Bottom line is, there is no team at home we should never be beating. We're not fecking Burnley.

Like Bayern should have beaten them last season?!?? Stop living in the past where Liverpool were the best club in Europe. We're not at that level anymore. It can be the aim but we have to be realistic about how that could be achieved. We don't have a lot of cash and we can't afford to pay galactico wages.

Mr Alan

Vicxas wrote: »

Rodgers buying has been for the most part a miss. He really needs less final word on signings.

This.

We should really consider a DOF model. Bringing in a big name DOF might also help attract some top players-something Rodgers seems to struggle with big time.

mav79

The one player that can play a through ball comes off as a quick player that can break the lines comes on. Rodgers is a genius.

T-K-O

mav79 wrote: »

The one player that can play a through ball comes off as a quick player that can break the lines comes on. Rodgers is a genius.

I know we're **** but give it a rest. Gerard & Lallana can pick a pass.

Sideshow Mark

How is Glen Johnson still getting a game?

Francie Barrett

We are playing well this second half, the final ball has just been rubbish.

Augmerson

Does it sound mad that despite being 3-0 down there are still some encouraging things about our play?

Agent Coulson

Mr Alan wrote: »

This.

We should really consider a DOF model. Bringing in a big name DOF might also help attract some top players-something Rodgers seems to struggle with big time.

This is one of my problems with Rodgers.

When he got the job he said he wouldn't work under a DOF as he wanted the final say which is fair enough but then he say he works with a transfer committee who he seems to blame for every player that doesn't work out.

He seems to like passing the blame to someone other than himself.

shamrock55

Dangelo Stocky Rage wrote: »

It means you're wrong and haven't a clue.

Ha ha wrong again

Gbear

Sideshow Mark wrote: »

How is Glen Johnson still getting a game?

He's been fairly decent since he's come back.

Doesn't wash out the terrible performances though and based on the last 50 minutes he seems to be reverting back to Bad Johnson.

Slattsy

I like Can, done more already than Henderson.

T-K-O

Augmerson wrote: »

Does it sound mad that despite being 3-0 down there are still some encouraging things about our play?

No, we started very well. There are signs of improvement in everything but defence.

Vicxas

Positives from this match?

Francie Barrett

Can has done well since coming on.

Mr Alan

Agent Coulson wrote: »

When he got the job he said he wouldn't work under a DOF as he wanted the final say which is fair enough.

It's no longer fair enough, his record is too poor. He should be told he doesn't have a say in it.

kevohmsford

Balotelli swapping shirts at half time probably did not go down well.

Gbear

T-K-O wrote: »

No, we started very well. There are signs of improvement in everything but defence.

We still didn't create anything until that Allen shot from distance at the end of the first half.

That's been a consistent problem this season - we're just not creating enough chances and it doesn't matter what Rodgers has tried, he hasn't got it to work without 2 strikers.

martyos121

Vicxas wrote: »

Positives from this match?

Skrtel. I'm positive he's useless.

kevohmsford

Vicxas wrote: »

Positives from this match?

Not posting too much in the match thread.

shamrock55

Augmerson wrote: »

Does it sound mad that despite being 3-0 down there are still some encouraging things about our play?

In fairness i dont think we are playing as bad as the scoreline might suggest, but the defense really does need sorting

Hoki

rossie1977 wrote: »

the same madrid side that a few weeks ago were losing in bulgaria...

You do know they won right ? I must admit that's the first time I've ever seen a poster use a 'they were losing during a game' ( that they went onto win ) to make a point , congrats on re-affirming my belief that you're a spoofer.

Charlie19

T-K-O wrote: »

No, we started very well. There are signs of improvement in everything but defence.

Like the first 15 or 20 minutes of the 1st half we actually looked like we were going to give Madrid a game.

careca

Vicxas wrote: »

Rodgers buying has been for the most part a miss. He really needs less final word on signings.

I actually fear for Rodgers based on his signings. Different owners I know, but Rafa was gone the season after finishing his highest and having thrashed Utd/Real etc. I can't get away from Rodgers introducing Borini to us and saying "this boy will get us a lot of goals"

Also said it already this season but every single one of his summer signings still has the jury out on them imo.

NoelJ

It really annoys me that Rodgers is sticking with Balotelli while not giving Lambert a chance. Whenever I've seen Lambert he's been class while Balotelli has always looked lazy.

I'd love to see a midfield of Can, Hendo and Gerrard together with a strikeforce of Lallana Sterling and Lambert

martyos121

careca wrote: »

I actually fear for Rodgers based on his signings. Different owners I know, but Rafa was gone the season after finishing his highest and having thrashed Utd/Real etc. I can't get away from Rodgers introducing Borini to us and saying "this boy will get us a lot of goals"

Also said it already this season but every single one of his summer signings still has the jury out on them imo.

Everyone but Lallana. He's integrated very quickly into the team, and will be big for us for this season at least.

Gbear

NoelJ wrote: »

It really annoys me that Rodgers is sticking with Balotelli while not giving Lambert a chance. Whenever I've seen Lambert he's been class while Balotelli has always looked lazy.

I'd love to see a midfield of Can, Hendo and Gerrard together with a strikeforce of Lallana Sterling and Lambert

Lambert has been given 2 chances from the start and has looked hopelessly out of his depth.

His only function in this team is an extra striker on as a plan B for the last 10 minutes or a warm body to play in games that don't matter (like the league cup).

With the number of games we did need that this season and I'm not knocking the signing, but he doesn't look up to the standard of the PL or the CL.

careca

NoelJ wrote: »

It really annoys me that Rodgers is sticking with Balotelli while not giving Lambert a chance. Whenever I've seen Lambert he's been class while Balotelli has always looked lazy.

I'd love to see a midfield of Can, Hendo and Gerrard together with a strikeforce of Lallana Sterling and Lambert

Goodnight all

Tipsy McSwagger

Vicxas wrote: »

Positives from this match?

Only getting beat 0-3

Gbear

careca wrote: »

I actually fear for Rodgers based on his signings. Different owners I know, but Rafa was gone the season after finishing his highest and having thrashed Utd/Real etc. I can't get away from Rodgers introducing Borini to us and saying "this boy will get us a lot of goals"

Also said it already this season but every single one of his summer signings still has the jury out on them imo.

That's fundamental to the strategy of our signings though - and that's not down to Rodgers but the people in charge of the club who're determined to get value for money and build sustainably.

It's rare that 18-22 year olds are going to come and produce straigth away. We're just going to have to accept that or start rioting outside the ground and encourage FSG to **** off so we can get some rich scumbag who stole his wealth from his fellow citizens or is actively supporting civil rights abuse.

Agent Coulson

Gbear wrote: »

That's fundamental to the strategy of our signings though - and that's not down to Rodgers but the people in charge of the club who're determined to get value for money and build sustainably.

It's rare that 18-22 year olds are going to come and produce straigth away. We're just going to have to accept that or start rioting outside the ground and encourage FSG to **** off so we can get some rich scumbag who stole his wealth from his fellow citizens or is actively supporting civil rights abuse.

Yet we overpaid for every player this summer bar Lambert and Moreno.

Slattsy

Is Glen Johnson just plain thick?

Turtyturd

Does Ronnie Whelan not get complimentary tickets from the club or something?

Him and Hodgson should get together.

5starpool

We've been as threatening as a pack of kittens.

Vicxas

Right, I was under no illusion that we would beat Madrid. But tonight still hurt.

Balotelli is really, really starting to grind my gears. Johnson also needs to take a long walk.

Charlie19

Turtyturd wrote: »

Does Ronnie Whelan not get complimentary tickets from the club or something?

Him and Hodgson should get together.

I muted tv in the first half and the opted to stream in the 2nd. He so bitter.