Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

Kerrigooney

Augeo wrote: »

It would he refreshing to see Rodgers start borini with balotelli, it would dispell some of the stubborn perception he's recently acquired.

It would but he wont.

No borini but sterling will be very forward I'd expect with coutinho, hen, Allen and Gerrard in midfield,.

Kerrigooney

Kerrigooney

Kerrigooney wrote: »

It would but he wont.

I suppose Rodgers sees him as gone in January so its cup only.

To be fair there's plenty quality on the bench.

livinginkorea

Really think we should try two up top. Guess it will happen in the second half. Fabio needs game time too and definitely has the hunger for it. He had a couple of mad crosses in the last game but at the end of the day he produced the assist and got the crowd going. He was with Sunderland for a loan and came back fighting. You need a player like that.

Tipsy McSwagger

Another boring predictable starting eleven from Rodgers, a draw would be a good result.

Kerrigooney

Augeo wrote: »

I suppose Rodgers sees him as gone in January so its cup only.

To be fair there's plenty quality on the bench.

If that's his attitude then it's wrong imo. We might have nothing left to play for come January.

Am I alone in thinking wel might see a 4 3 3 formation in this ?

klose

Augeo wrote: »

Am I alone in thinking wel might see a 4 3 3 formation in this ?

Hopefully diamond, Cou out wide is a waste. Sterling is better centrally too

Kerrigooney

Augeo wrote: »

Am I alone in thinking wel might see a 4 3 3 formation in this ?

He seems to be fond of 4-2-3-1 atm and it's not working. You're not allowed to criticise him in here tho or you get called a doom monger.

Agent Coulson

I used this quote last week.

Albert Einstein: Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

I think Brendan might need to take a step back and have a fresh look at his squad.

Demosthenese

Brendan can talk all this "breaking lines" stuff that he likes but that team reeks of staleness and a little predictable. Its ok to put out the same team thats performing week in week out ... but i'll be a little miffed if don't start this game with a good level of intensity like previous weeks.

... always decent games v Newcastle and sure to be goals, i am not hopeful but you just never know.

Daemonic

Worst thing about it is he's tried 2 up top a few times late in games and the difference is plain to see. It's not like he'd be trying something with no evidence it'll improve the performance.

whatawaster

Daemonic wrote: »

Worst thing about it is he's tried 2 up top a few times late in games and the difference is plain to see. It's not like he'd be trying something with no evidence it'll improve the performance.

The end of games are very different from the beginnings. The opposition tend to be in full retreat. It's why Lambert makes an impact in the last 10 minutes, but has made no impact when he has started. Different mentalities. Different conditions

Gbear

Well. I suppose that it's probably our best 6 attacking players so it shouldn't be a disaster.

Away from home, even to a team with Newcastle's home form, a scrappy win by keeping it level or us up by 1 until 60 and then putting on the players required to win the game isn't necessarily a problem.

Can, Borini and Lallana are great options to have on the bench.

Still though. Meh. It's not even that the results have been disastrous. We've just looked boring as **** with 1 up top.

Daemonic

whatawaster wrote: »

The end of games are very different from the beginnings. The opposition tend to be in full retreat. It's why Lambert makes an impact in the last 10 minutes, but has made no impact when he has started. Different mentalities. Different conditions

Fair point but I'd like to see us try 2 up top and have the opposition in full retreat from minute 1 like we did so effectively last season. Blow them away early.

whatawaster

Daemonic wrote: »

Fair point but I'd like to see us try 2 up top and have the opposition in full retreat from minute 1 like we did so effectively last season. Blow them away early.

There's no reason why the front 6 out there can't do that. It's mentality, confidence, form. It's not the number of strikers imo

Riesen_Meal

Interesting point from BT Sports - It's mental that the stats from last season have remained the same in some respects :

Borini plays very well up top midweek and is benched. And then we revert to 1 up top which we have struggled with all season.

Bizzare

Soft Falling Rain

No Markovic at all, Borini earned his spot on the bench at least. Hopefully Marko reacts the right way to being dropped.

I wouldn't have started Coutinho TBH, rewarding a very frustrating performance midweek.

Agent Coulson

£45m of new signings on the bench or not in the match day squad.

Soft Falling Rain

Agent Coulson wrote: »

£45m of new signings on the bench or not in the match day squad.

Not a big deal tbh, every team with any kind of aspirations will have costly players on the bench.

Turtyturd

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Not a big deal tbh, every team with any kind of aspirations will have costly players on the bench.

Given how insipid the team have been it is a big deal IMO. Fault all on the transfer committee no doubt.

Agent Coulson

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Not a big deal tbh, every team with any kind of aspirations will have costly players on the bench.

I would expect our two (Lallana & Markovic) most expensive signings of the summer to be first team starters not squad players to be honest.

jasonb

Fieldog wrote: »

Interesting point from BT Sports - It's mental that the stats from last season have remained the same in some respects :

Interesting Stats alright, but do they have to persist with the Suarez v Balotelli comparisons? It's just really lazy, Balotelli was clearly not brought in to 'replace' Suarez.

Another, more depressing stat... Of our three fit strikers, none of them have scored a league goal this season, and only Balotelli has scored at all...

J.

razorblunt

Coutinho is getting a bit of space in this.

MonkeyTennis

This is dreadful

klose

Not even watching the game and I'm frustrated just checking twitter seeing what's happening.

Tipsy McSwagger

This type of football is the polar opposite to last season, boring and shyte.

razorblunt

Johnson pulled out of another 50/50 challenge leading to that.

Agent Coulson

Rodgers needs to take a long hard look at his tactics his team set up etc etc the players look like they haven't a clue how to play football anymore.:mad::mad:

NabyLadistheman

Johnson is a disgrace. Our defence is a shambles. Midfield terrible. When did we turn into a long ball team?

eagle eye

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

This type of football is the polar opposite to last season, boring and shyte.

And the reason for that is quite obvious which is Luis Suarez.

Last season you had a player who was always available and looking to make something happen. Its a very special talent and Liverpool have nobody doing that now. Sterling tries to do it but playing out on the right side makes it very hard for him. Imo he needs to be more central where he can create and be more involved.

When you take a great player out of a team you need to try and replace all he has done as best you can. Liverpool haven't come close to replacing the goals he scored but more importantly they have nobody who can get on the ball and create chances.

martyos121

We're really living up to Warrior's slogan at least.
"We Come Not To Play"

Mig, Johnson and Skrtel need removing from the team asap. The former two especially are complete liabilities.

kevohmsford

The main problem is our midfield at the moment. Not winning the ball and keeping it.

Agent Coulson

JohnsonSkrtelMignoletRodgersTacticsistheman.

daithijjj

Sterling is absolutely wasted where he is. Manager is making bad decisions.

daRobot

Rodgers is really starting to worry me.

Specifically that he is stubbornly persisting with what clearly isn't working, and hasn't worked over multiple games.

The tactics and set up are bizarre. Slowly but surely he's undoing all the goodwill he built up last season.

Tipsy McSwagger

eagle eye wrote: »

And the reason for that is quite obvious which is Luis Suarez.

Last season you had a player who was always available and looking to make something happen. Its a very special talent and Liverpool have nobody doing that now. Sterling tries to do it but playing out on the right side makes it very hard for him. Imo he needs to be more central where he can create and be more involved.

When you take a great player out of a team you need to try and replace all he has done as best you can. Liverpool haven't come close to replacing the goals he scored but more importantly they have nobody who can get on the ball and create chances.

We bought the polar opposite to Luis.

Raif Severance

Why are we doing this?

Everyone and their Mother knows that Balo cannot play as the Lone Striker.

So why are we Persisting with it?

Agent Coulson

Raif Severance wrote: »

Why are we doing this?

Everyone and their Mother knows that Balo cannot play as the Lone Striker.

So why are we Persisting with it?

I think Rodgers wants it to work so much to prove he knows what he is doing.

In the longterm if he doesn't change it, It could cost him his job.

Turtyturd

Good to see Suarez getting his dues now that he has moved on.

daRobot

Raif Severance wrote: »

So why are we Persisting with it?

That's the million dollar question.

Why can Rodgers not see what is right in front of him?

This is why consultants get brought into companies. Sometimes the management can be so close to a problem that they can't see the absolute obvious solutions to their issues.

Gbear

There's nothing wrong with slowing the game down in a tricky away fixture. We've done a decent job of containing them.

I don't think the problem is even about taking more risks. I just don't think Henderson, Allen and Gerrard have provided anywhere near enough quality to get our attack going. Can and Lallana need to come on.

I can't really fault the tactics in this one. You can't go to Newcastle and expect to just steamroll them. Certainly not with the players we have available.

martyos121

This is shocking stuff.
I've seen more excitement at a feckin Daniel O'Donnell gig.

Raif Severance

Gbear wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with slowing the game down in a tricky away fixture. We've done a decent job of containing them.

I don't think the problem is even about taking more risks. I just don't think Henderson, Allen and Gerrard have provided anywhere near enough quality to get our attack going. Can and Lallana need to come on.

I can't really fault the tactics in this one. You can't go to Newcastle and expect to just steamroll them. Certainly not with the players we have available.

Allen cannot simply Create, when he's already been the one providing the Tackles and the Protection.

Which makes you Question, what Gerrard's Job is on the Field, if Allen is the one doing the Job Description of his Position? Is he simply the Quarterback?

It's a 90 mins game... Plenty of time left and Newcastle aren't looking at all dangerous.

SlickRic

We really are quite shíte.

hadoken13

Absolute ****. I just turned it off as I can't stomach any more - what an inept performance again. I wonder what excuses Rodgers will have this time (if they lose).