Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

5starpool

michael999999 wrote: »

I can't see that being a problem for them!

It will. They can only have a net spend this summer of 49m or so, and they are already at 25m net spend (rough figures). The restrictions are part of their FFP penalty.

5live

michael999999 wrote: »

I can't see that being a problem for them!

I think he was talking about FFP.

kfallon

Maybe £20m for Negredo and then try get £10m by selling the likes of Richards, Scott Sinclair or Javi Garcia (is he still there?)

kfallon

kfallon wrote: »

Maybe £20m for Negredo and then try get £10m by selling the likes of Richards, Scott Sinclair or Javi Garcia (is he still there?)

All in 24 hrs

gafferino

"Defensively, he was very good," Rodgers commented when asked about the Frenchman's return. "He'll get smoother on the ball the more he plays.

"When they come back [from the international break], we have got a lot of games. His aggression, tenacity and spirit was very important for us and I thought he did very well."

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/169983-boss-moreno-goal-was-born-on-monday

ebbsy

Looking at Madrid on SS5, they were two up but are now behind......like Dublin, not invincible it seems.

kfallon

ebbsy wrote: »

Looking at Madrid on SS5, they were two up but are now behind

Good!

Hidalgo

6 pts from a possible 9. Can't complain with that. Great to pick up those pts before cl kicks off.
Today was a bit similar to last Monday night with defensive errors. Difference was today Spurs didn't have the killer instinct that Man City showed in punishing Liverpools errors.

Delighted to see Moreno get on the score sheet, especially after that f*cuk up Monday night. Should help him settle in nicely which I feared when you consider how broken up he was leaving Sevilla.

Gerarrds passing was simply cat. At one stage he attempted a short pass from a free and gave it straight to a Spurs place, think it was just before HT. I'd like to see some options explored for the base of midfield in League Cup or closing stages of comfortable league games. No way Gerarrd will be able for PL at the weekend, CL midweek and PL again at the weekend.

Here's hoping all return from the international break unscathed.

michael999999

Madrid they said...

Invincible they said....!

Bring it on!!

ebbsy

Now 4-2 behind, dreadful at the back.

rob316

michael999999 wrote: »

Madrid they said...

Invincible they said....!

Bring it on!!

Sensational attacking players, but there goalkeeper is bang average and I just dont rate pepe or ramos as central defenders.

They are playing Isco, Modric and Kroos in the middle who dont offer any real defensive work rate.

They can be got at absolutely but we will have to be at the very top of our game at anfield.

Agent Coulson

Coates to Sunderland on loan by the looks of it.

pmy.murphy

5starpool wrote: »

You make it sound much worse than it was. Balotelli basically created the chance, it broke back to him and under pressure from Lloris 40 yards from goal he skewed it.

What do you mean I make it sound worse, I was noting the humerous moment when you could see Rodgers in a fit of laughter in the background. So what if Balotelli missed who cares

Gbear

To the victor the spoils.

klose

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Coates to Sunderland on loan by the looks of it.

Interesting, 4 senior centre backs should be enough for the season. I wonder what will happen with him and ilori next summer when toure presumably leaves.

Hidalgo

One thing I've noticed and must say I like about Moreno is that he's aggresive. Not afraid to get stuck in when trying to win the ball. Really like that in a player.
Liverpool were fairly effective with possession today. Only around 39% I think yet created lots of chances. Also held Spurs to just a single shot on target and that was due to Lovren and Sakho going for the same ball.

Most pleasing aspect from a defensive pov was dealing with corners. Usually a heart in mouth scenario but by and large they were easily repelled today.

Knex*

Hidalgo wrote: »

One thing I've noticed and must say I like about Moreno is that he's aggresive. Not afraid to get stuck in when trying to win the ball. Really like that in a player.
Liverpool were fairly effective with possession today. Only around 39% I think yet created lots of chances. Also held Spurs to just a single shot on target and that was due to Lovren and Sakho going for the same ball.

Most pleasing aspect from a defensive pov was dealing with corners. Usually a heart in mouth scenario but by and large they were easily repelled today.

Manquillo loves a tackle just as much. With the back 4 we had out today, they all love a to go to ground.

Great in some ways, terrifying in others!

niallo27

Well that was wonderful today.

rob316

OT but Just in case anyone is living under a rock lads...jennifer lawrence lads:eek::eek:

Midlife Crashes

Great to see someone calling him out on his bullsh*t

indykaila News @indykaila
Hearing Lucas Leiva speaking to two English clubs. Maybe Aston Villa & Southampton. #LFC

@indykaila so you giving wrong information to your followers.
- @LucasLeiva87

michael999999

Midlife Crashes wrote: »

Great to see someone calling him out on his bullsh*t

indykaila News @indykaila
Hearing Lucas Leiva speaking to two English clubs. Maybe Aston Villa & Southampton. #LFC

@indykaila so you giving wrong information to your followers.
- @LucasLeiva87

Indykailas reply was funny though!

x43r0

rob316 wrote: »

OT but Just in case anyone is living under a rock lads...jennifer lawrence lads:eek::eek:

Yes this is a great day

I assume we can't post a link?

Agent Coulson

rob316 wrote: »

OT but Just in case anyone is living under a rock lads...jennifer lawrence lads:eek::eek:

Nice

rob316

x43r0 wrote: »

Yes this is a great day

I assume we can't post a link?

Twitter is your friend for any filth on the net. She's perfect though ffs

x43r0

rob316 wrote: »

Twitter is your friend for any filth on the net. She's perfect though ffs

Oh I've seen them all - was gonna share the wealth via the album link :cool:

delw

Really didn't think we would get any thing from todays game but they were great to watch & got a fantastic result.Sterling probably just edged Henderson for MOTM.So what's peoples thoughts on the new CB pairing,Skrtel to be dropped?

klose

delw wrote: »

Really didn't think we would get any thing from todays game but they were great to watch & got a fantastic result.Sterling probably just edged Henderson for MOTM.So what's peoples thoughts on the new CB pairing,Skrtel to be dropped?

Im open to correction but i think rodgers pretty much always keeps the same eleven when they win, i dont see what skrtel would have offered today ahead of sakho and lovren. Hopefully the back 4 remains unchanged, really is an area that doesn't need alot of tinkering.

Agent Coulson

x43r0 wrote: »

Oh I've seen them all - was gonna share the wealth via the album link :cool:

https://vine.co/v/MLI7ZMzInLQ

Mr Alan

klose wrote: »

I dont see what skrtel would have offered today ahead of sakho and lovren.

Maybe he wouldn't gift Spurs the ball numerous times in dangerous positions?

Today was largely a cracking performance & result, but we were still shaky as **** at the back. Sakho continues to be a problem IMO.

I'd like to see Sakho and Lovern get a good run of games together and develop a partnership.

kevohmsford

MOTD2 Liverpool game on now BBC1

Hollister11

Gerrards FH we awful. I would of subbed him off for coutinho at HT.
as much as we all love SG, time Is catching up on him.

Fescue

Mr Alan wrote: »

Maybe he wouldn't gift Spurs the ball numerous times in dangerous positions?

Today was largely a cracking performance & result, but we were still shaky as **** at the back. Sakho continues to be a problem IMO.

Perhaps its my lack of footballing understanding but I just can't understand how people can look at Sakho and think he's better than Skrtel.

I actually think we were more shakey today at centre back than we were against City.

Agent Coulson

I can see Sterling and Balotelli going to the Christmas fancy dress as Kid 'n Play.

Iused2likebusts

Hollister11 wrote: »

Gerrards FH we awful. I would of subbed him off for coutinho at HT.
as much as we all love SG, time Is catching up on him.

Because Gerrard is 34 anytime he has a poor half of football people will say his time is up which it's not.

Kess73

rarnes1 wrote: »

I'd like to see Sakho and Lovern get a good run of games together and develop a partnership.

Yep a run of games together is the only way to find out if they can click as a unit.

Today was the first time they played together in a competitive game, so would be pretty idiotic to claim that they are defo going to work or defo will not work on the back of it.

Skrtel looks like he will be out for three to four weeks anyway, so Sakho and Lovern will probably have that long at the very least to show signs that they can work well together.

whatawaster

Mr Alan wrote: »

Maybe he wouldn't gift Spurs the ball numerous times in dangerous positions?

Today was largely a cracking performance & result, but we were still shaky as **** at the back. Sakho continues to be a problem IMO.

Defense was a problem today, but Sakho is normally our best defender at passing. Still definite question marks over our defense though, so many individual errors

Mr Alan

rarnes1 wrote: »

I'd like to see Sakho and Lovern get a good run of games together and develop a partnership.

To be fair, I want to see the same too.

It's sink or swim time for Sakho. People have been making excuses for 6 months for him.

kfallon

Rodgers on Sterling's run:

"In the box he was like Ricky Villa but his finish was like Ricky Gervais!"

MD1990

Moreno is a huge addition for the team. Someone like him is what we were missing against Chelsea when they defended very narrow. Sterling is an immense talent. Best teenager in the world imo. Manquillo has been excellent too & will only improve as he has had little gametime since his neck injury.

Kess73

Main thing about today is that we got three points, and against a good team that also happens to be a direct rival.


It also gives us some breathing room so that we can go into what is normally a very silly and fun day each season with having a bad result hanging over us.

Mr Alan

whatawaster wrote: »

Defense was a problem today, but Sakho is normally our best defender at passing. Still definite question marks over our defense though, so many individual errors

Our best defender at passing

Just admit it, to date he has not been very good overall

klose

Mr Alan wrote: »

Maybe he wouldn't gift Spurs the ball numerous times in dangerous positions?

Today was largely a cracking performance & result, but we were still shaky as **** at the back. Sakho continues to be a problem IMO.

He did have some very bad passes granted but i think we just need to persist with it and see how we go, we have never been solid defensively but skrtel is a common denominator in that so we wont improve anymore defensively with him in it.

MD1990

Some links to Victor Valdes tonight from Paul Joyce(Who is reliable). When fully fit he would be our #1 easily. Hope it happens.

whatawaster

Mr Alan wrote: »

Our best defender at passing

Well, he is.

Just admit it, to date he has not been very good overall

I think he's been ok. Hasn't set the world alight, but it was his first season in England and had some injuries. Had a good world cup, first choice for a France side that have loads of defensive options, like Varane who is one of the best in the world and Mangala who City have just paid £30m for.

He had a very dodgy game today, but the biggest defensive cock-up was Lovren's doing.

Fescue

MD1990 wrote: »

Some links to Victor Valdes tonight from Paul Joyce(Who is reliable). When fully fit he would be our #1 easily. Hope it happens.

That would be a real step up in quality. Hope it happens.

Barely There

I think Sakho/Lovern has great potential.
Would like to see them get a good run of games together.
Sakho's a bit of an enigma, flashes of incredible brilliance interspersed with brain-farts.

My gut says he's going to become a beast of a defender.

I'm hoping my gut is right.

Kess73

Mr Alan wrote: »

To be fair, I want to see the same too.

It's sink or swim time for Sakho. People have been making excuses for 6 months for him.

Best ship out every player who does not set the world alight after 18 first team games in a year then.:P


Henderson was muck for the best part of his first 40 or so games for the club, now he slots into the first team like he belongs there thanks to the massive effort the player has put in since Rodgers looked to get rid of him.

Lucas had the best part of two seasons being called crap (unfairly for the most part as in his early days with the club he was steady but not spectacular) before coming really good until his injuries over the past few years.


Both Skrtel and Agger had shakey starts to their Liverpool careers in terms of form.

Sakho last season was solid more often than not but he only played 17 games spread over the course of the season so nowhere near enough to figure out whether or not he will settle in. The fact he was out injured twice seems to get overlooked as well. I think it is the fact that he looks ungainly on the ball that has people writing him off more anything he does wrong.

The obvious thing is for him to get an actual steady run of games as part of a settled back four. Then we will find out if he can transfer the form that he showed at PSG and for France to his Liverpool career.


Personally I think he will turn out to be a beast at the back for Liverpool, but he does need to step up his form and perform better than he did today if he is to get there.

Kess73

whatawaster wrote: »

Well, he is.



I think he's been ok. Hasn't set the world alight, but it was his first season in England and had some injuries. Had a good world cup, first choice for a France side that have loads of defensive options, like Varane who is one of the best in the world and Mangala who City have just paid £30m for.

He had a very dodgy game today, but the biggest defensive cock-up was Lovren's doing.

Yep it was, and it was another somewhat maligned player that bailed Lovern and the team out after that cock up.

rob316

MD1990 wrote: »

Some links to Victor Valdes tonight from Paul Joyce(Who is reliable). When fully fit he would be our #1 easily. Hope it happens.

Saw last night hes a free agent, snap him up at 32 he still has loads left in the tank.