Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Note in OP, 1/09

marklazarcovic

Marckovic reminded me of modric last ngt..his playing style..hopefully be just as good..its very hard for the midfielders to be effective when there are no darting runs made by the forwards for them to use their talents to pass to them..

Prob why cout has looked bad tbh..nobody to pass to regulary..

gafferino

SuperTortoise wrote: »

Didn't see the game tonight but from what I've seen so far lallana looks rusty, Ibe was immense in post season and pre season and I think he deserves a shot.

Well he was excellent last night (I think he got MOTM?). I dont think he has done himself any discredit in the other games he played either. Remember this is a player who had virtually no pre-season so it is no surprise he could be a bit rusty. A couple of weeks and he should be up to speed hopefully.

gafferino

Imagine if this fella goes on to be half as good as the other lad. Fair play to him he did well last night.

gafferino

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/171258-br-tonight-was-about-our-young-stars

"Tonight was a good night for our young players," Rodgers told reporters during his post-match press conference. "Young Jordan Rossiter could walk to Anfield; he just lives round the corner. I was delighted for him. He got the opportunity and showed wonderful composure to get his finish.

"I was also impressed with young Jordan Williams, he came on and showed really good stature and composure in the game. He is a wonderful footballer and a young player that is developing well.

A mention for young Suso," insisted Rodgers. "He hasn't had a lot of game time but he has kept working every day and I thought when he came on he was really bright for us and took his goal really well."

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http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/171243-rodgers-we-are-showing-our-fight

"I was obviously pleased to get through and that experience, even though it was a long night for everyone, was great for our young players. It's good to win, no matter how you win.

"We played OK in the game; we didn't create a great deal, to be honest, but we showed good perseverance to keep going. Like the way it is at the moment, we made too many mistakes and we got punished for that in the game.

"We're making mistakes at the moment - too many mistakes. The first goal I was disappointed with, and even more so the second goal.

"Tonight is good for our spirit and camaraderie in the group, to win like that. Now we have a bit of time to prepare and get ready for a massive game at the weekend."

"Adam is still probably in his pre-season phase because he hasn't played over the course of pre-season due to injury," the boss added. "So for him to get the game time was really good.

"I was really impressed with Jose Enrique, because I watched Albert Adomah [his opposite number] in the Championship when I was with Swansea City and I know how good a player he is and how fast he is. There's not many fitter than Albert. Jose came in and played the whole game against him. I thought he was outstanding."

kfallon

You'd swear 'Young' was their first names :pac:

djPSB

Based on current form, Suso is probably a better option than Markovic at minute.

gafferino

Give him a new deal Brendao!

Super-Rush wrote: »

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/real-madrid-step-up-efforts-7821974

Sterling, 19, is currently on £30,000-a-week, his deal expires in 2017 and Liverpool were expected to reward his progress with a new deal.

The Mirror reported in April that Sterling was in line for a new deal after his impressive form for the Reds which helped forced his way into England’s World Cup set-up. He is currently one of the smaller earners in the Liverpool set-up and his contract is dwarfed by almost all of his England team mates.

But boss Brendan Rodgers last month insisted Sterling must wait for a new deal - and that has encouraged Real Madrid.

Rodgers said last month: “When you reward young players too quickly – Raheem’s still only 19 – you give them too much too early and that will be their downfall. It’s a big problem because they lose their hunger.”

tok9

Bloody hell. My laptop died on the 119th minute so I thought to myself grand, off to play some Destiny.

It was only at about 12 or so when I found out the match had gone to penalties :P

I'm some sap.

Boom_Bap

A few comments from last night....and I missed the first half.

Williams - looks solid, the thing that impressed me the most is how he strikes the ball, effortless and accurate.

Suso - Glad he came on and made a difference. I still rate him, but there is something that is not right behind the scenes with him which is keeping him away.

Markovic - He looks like he could be really exciting. Gets his head down and runs, his off the ball runs are real good as well. Once he gets more game time under his belt I think he'll be a quality addition, i'm willing to give him time.

Mignolet - One thing that sruck me, he was shouting the whole match and audible over the crowd at times.

Toure - why u barge into man in box?

Dry Cleaners - They will be getting a couple of pairs of my pants to get stains out of after that ending and shootout.

gafferino

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Ball retention and decision making mainly. He was a very tidy player before he left us, became a headless chicken when he came back.

I think Suso was very good when he came on for us. Was creative, looked to get on the ball, looked composed, worked hard, nabbed a goal and scored 2 penalties. I go back to what I said to you the other day - in the paltry minutes he has played with us including pre-season he has looked good.

I would rather he stay with us and see what happens then go to Milan. He has something to offer for sure. Himself and Sterling seemed to have a good connection and seemed to be looking for eachother as soon as one of them got the ball.

gafferino

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jordan-rossiter-dream-start-liverpool-7822002

“It was brilliant. I’m made up,” a jubilant Rossiter told the ECHO.

“To score on my debut, I couldn’t have asked for any more. It’s a dream come true to be honest.

“I got told by the manager at training on Monday that I’d be starting. I was a bit shocked but I couldn’t wait to get out here.

“I was a bit nervous but playing with some of the best players in the world helped.

“I was speaking to a few of the senior players before kick-off who just told me to enjoy it. It was a great opportunity for me and they helped me through.”

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“We did have a bit of practise in training on Monday. That paid off with the way the boys put the penalties away.

“I thought Jordan Williams was brilliant when he came on. He’s had a tough couple of years with injuries but I was made up to see him out there on the pitch.

“The gaffer is willing to give youngsters an opportunity. He showed that again tonight by giving debuts to both Jordan and myself.”

Harry Palmr

Just thought this needed to be posted again!



Gerrard could only dream of being as good as Rossiter is at his age.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx-ws3QjFPQ

DrumSteve

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Just thought this needed to be posted again!



Gerrard could only dream of being as good as Rossiter is at his age.

Hopefully he can go on to be at least a quarter of the player Gerrard is.

tok9

Suso absolutely deserves his chance on the bench at least.

Did well last season, had a decent pre season and then barely gets a kick since the season began.

Right now he is a better option to have on the bench instead of Markovic imo.

Just so we're clear I'm not writing off Markovic but I really think Suso is getting a raw deal here.

Dickerty

DrumSteve wrote: »

Hopefully he can go on to be at least a quarter of the player Gerrard is.

Need to get some growth hormones into him though, as a CM he could do with being a few inches taller. I know that small CMs do make it occasionaly (Masc?), but even in covering the ground, it would make his life easier.

Best truly homegrown player since Stevie, no doubt...

And a bonus, which suggests to be that he's a humble lad (good parenting) - he wears black boots.
In an era of white and yellow and red, they actually stand out the most.

Nerdlingr

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Mignolet - One thing that sruck me, he was shouting the whole match and audible over the crowd at times.

He's been doing that since the Southampton game. All he ever shouts is "Away, away!!!"

Harry Palmr

Rossiter was great for the most part, what struck me was how fast he is to move the ball on, this season possession has been ponderous to say the least but with him (and the U21s generally) first touch is control and second touch is the pass. I reckon if the kids had been sent out last night they'd have won that game in 90 through sheer speed of thought and action.

gafferino

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Rossiter was great for the most part, what struck me was how fast he is to move the ball on, this season possession has been ponderous to say the least but with him (and the U21s generally) first touch is control and second touch is the pass. I reckon if the kids had been sent out last night they'd have won that game in 90 through sheer speed of thought and action.

Really? I thought he did very well for a 17 year old debutant. He was tidy and composed - nothing more nothing less imo - and thats probably the best I would have expected from him. Delighted for him.

Vicxas

gafferino wrote: »

Really? I thought he did very well for a 17 year old debutant. He was tidy and composed - nothing more nothing less imo - and thats probably the best I would have expected from him. Delighted for him.

This,

For a first team debutant he was very composed and didnt shy away from the ball.

tok9

I think we saw the issue again as Harry just said. We are way too slow.

Having Lucas and Rossiter playing is the same as Lucas and Gerrard really.

Maybe I'm a bit naive and the game would have been too open but I would have preferred to see something like Lallana in Lucas position. It may have been too open but that alone would have made us a lot quicker on the ball for me.

skywalker

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Just thought this needed to be posted again!

Still looks that size next to Enrique!

D'Agger

gafferino wrote: »

Really? I thought he did very well for a 17 year old debutant. He was tidy and composed - nothing more nothing less imo - and thats probably the best I would have expected from him. Delighted for him.

What's with 'really?' - think you've misread his post tbh

Boom_Bap

tok9 wrote: »

I think we saw the issue again as Harry just said. We are way too slow.

Having Lucas and Rossiter playing is the same as Lucas and Gerrard really.

Maybe I'm a bit naive and the game would have been too open but I would have preferred to see something like Lallana in Lucas position. It may have been too open but that alone would have made us a lot quicker on the ball for me.

What I've notice over the past few games. We take 2 passes to get the ball where we want it to be. Last year we were doing this in 1 pass.
We kind of got into that rhythm in the second half of ET.

Once we get that sorted out and the new players adapt, we will get back to where we were last year, maybe even better.

gafferino

D'Agger wrote: »

What's with 'really?' - think you've misread his post tbh

Yeah probably wasnt clear in my reply.... Harry was saying he was great. I didnt think so but I wouldnt expect a 17 year old making his debut to be great. As I said.... Tidy and composed.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Rossiter was great for the most part, what struck me was how fast he is to move the ball on, this season possession has been ponderous to say the least but with him (and the U21s generally) first touch is control and second touch is the pass. I reckon if the kids had been sent out last night they'd have won that game in 90 through sheer speed of thought and action.

Tusky

People complimenting Markovic - all I saw him do was play the simple pass every time. When he did try run with it he was pushed off the ball really easily. I'm not criticising him as it will take him time to settle, just puzzled by how people can see different things when watching a game.

5live

Boom_Bap wrote: »

What I've notice over the past few games. We take 2 passes to get the ball where we want it to be. Last year we were doing this in 1 pass.
We kind of got into that rhythm in the second half of ET.

Once we get that sorted out and the new players adapt, we will get back to where we were last year, maybe even better.

Our playing speed is pedestrian this season.

I think there is nobody showing for the ball or running into space looking for a pass ala Sturridge and Suarez last season. So the player on the ball checks back and passes it back or sideways and still no one seems to be looking for the ball. And it starts all over again.

Luckycharms_74

Match highlights and pens

Harry Palmr

The shoot out almost becomes hypnotic, esp the way the crowd sounds - yay boo, yay boo, yay boo, etc!

Fescue

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Rossiter was great for the most part, what struck me was how fast he is to move the ball on, this season possession has been ponderous to say the least but with him (and the U21s generally) first touch is control and second touch is the pass. I reckon if the kids had been sent out last night they'd have won that game in 90 through sheer speed of thought and action.

From the first time I seen him that was what impressed me. He is one of those players who always seems to have time on the ball. Like xabi Alonso. He has a long way to go but he could be the perfect player to play the position Gerrard occupies now.

benny79

I taught lambert was shocking and really killed the pace of play when we were attacking don't know what BR seem in him don't even think hes good cover. Just because he follows liverpool is no excuse!

gafferino

benny79 wrote: »

I taught lambert was shocking and really killed the pace of play when we were attacking don't know what BR seem in him don't even think hes good cover. Just because he follows liverpool is no excuse!

I though he was poor last night too but has looked ok in some of the games when he came on. He is capable of playing better than he did last night thats for sure, so I hope he still gets game time in the cups and as an impact sub at times.

Dickerty

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Match highlights and pens

Balo celebrating a penos win against a Championship team in the League Cup.

He's a changed man!

greendom

Dickerty wrote: »

Balo celebrating a penos win against a Championship team in the League Cup.

He's a changed man!

I suppose a milkman celebrates when he gets over-time

punk_one82

I didn't get to watch the match last night but just checked out Rossiters highlight video. 17 year old debutant that looks incredibly composed. Seemed to show for the ball an awful lot, control with both feet, clever passing and a decent strike for the goal. Definitely didn't look out of his depth (admittedly, can't read too much into it from less than 5 minutes of footage)

If he keeps progressing then we should have a real top quality player for the first team on our hands in a couple of years.

Milkers

With Enrique fit it's a pity our two best fullbacks are both lefties.

Lambert had a mare last night.

Suso deserves more game time and not just because he popped up and scored last night.

Chardee MacDennis

is Mignolet the worst no.1 keeper we've had since Westerveld? He just brings nothing to the team, it's bizarre we havent gotten someone else in at this stage.

Agent Coulson

The way Napoli have started the season Benitez could be gone by Christmas and the first thing I would do then would be straight in with a bid for Higuain even if Rafa doesn't get the sack I still put in a bid.

brevity

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The way Napoli have started the season Benitez could be gone by Christmas and the first thing I would do then would be straight in with a bid for Higuain even if Rafa doesn't get the sack I still put in a bid.

A bit on what's happening at Napoli for those interested.

http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/2hb50a/what_is_wrong_with_napoli_analysis_of_the/

Donnielighto

Whats up with sturridge?

klose

brevity wrote: »

A bit on what's happening at Napoli for those interested.

http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/2hb50a/what_is_wrong_with_napoli_analysis_of_the/

Sounds familiar with what happened here regards not getting the players he wanted and the club not backing him.

benny79

seems to me Rodgers isn't even looking for a keeper! even last nite peno shoot out he saved 1 out of 15 or there abouts, I know most them were quality, but to me thats not good enough!

I really think he is the weakest link in the team and been are keeper, That isn't good!

Wtf?

klose

benny79 wrote: »

seems to me Rodgers isn't even looking for a keeper! even last nite peno shoot out he saved 1 out of 15 or there abouts, I know most them were quality, but to me thats not good enough!

I really think he is the weakest link in the team and been are keeper, That isn't good!

Theres been plenty of links saying we will sign valdes next month if he proves his fitness.

eyescreamcone

klose wrote: »

Theres been plenty of links saying we will sign valdes next month if he proves his fitness.

I'd walk over hot coals for Valdes or Cech

Mignolet (or Maginot as my brother calls him - for good reason!!!) has the whole team nervous.

DVDM93

This was him at the start of the game last night.

Vicxas

Even Cech would be amazing, hes wasted on the Chelsea bench.

Oranage2

Hang on a minute, wasn't Mig not the second coming of Jesus last season?

What's all this never walk alone, loyalty and the supporters always support the players mantra you sprout here, I say get behind the keeper, it could just be a dip of form and show sosome support!

Vicxas

Theres a dip and from, and then there's this.

Its like the Belgian national team sucked the confidence out of him.

sweetie

Oranage2 wrote: »

Hang on a minute, wasn't Mig not the second coming of Jesus last season?

What's all this never walk alone, loyalty and the supporters always support the players mantra you sprout here, I say get behind the keeper, it could just be a dip of form and show sosome support!

a dip in form lasting 13 months? jeez

Ste-

Anyone else see the new LFC club shop opening in October in the ilac ?
Just walked past it at lunch there.