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Landlord here and refusing to leave

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    #62
    drumswan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    D3PO wrote: »
    it doesnt. Just check PRTB tribunal results and you will see that it doesnt.

    Who said it happens in 100% of cases? It would certainly happen in the case of a case of trespassing and same day eviction.


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    #63
    davo10
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    Export wrote: »
    I don't have any!

    Then you should not be there.


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    #64
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    One thing I would hate to be is a LL with tenants that don't pay.

    It is a business for most but also for the ones that had to move for work and negative equity and so on.
    I sympathise with the genuine ones that are decent.

    Pay your rent simple.

    Really hope laws are tightened up on these matters and the whole rent and allowance is looked into as it is madness the money been pumped out.


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    #65
    Export
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    davo10 wrote: »
    Then you should not be there.

    That's harsh.


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    #66
    Gatling
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    punisher5112 wrote: »

    Really hope laws are tightened up on these matters and the whole rent and allowance is looked into as it is madness the money been pumped out.

    It's already in the process of been done away with and replaced by something different
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    #67
    Export
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    One thing I would hate to be is a LL with tenants that don't pay.

    It is a business for most but also for the ones that had to move for work and negative equity and so on.
    I sympathise with the genuine ones that are decent.

    Pay your rent simple.

    Really hope laws are tightened up on these matters and the whole rent and allowance is looked into as it is madness the money been pumped out.

    This landlord is not in negative equity. He bought this house last year for 80k from the bank. It is a large 3 bed semi. He has since converted the downstairs sitting room into a flat. He is far from a 'decent' landlord. He is a greedy ignorant pig.


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    #68
    D3PO
    Registered Users Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    One thing I would hate to be is a LL with tenants that don't pay.

    Pay your rent simple.

    Really hope laws are tightened up on these matters and the whole rent and allowance is looked into as it is madness the money been pumped out.

    Whilst I cannot stand anybody who doesnt pay their way weather that be a tenant or a mortgage holder I have to disagree.

    What way do you want the laws tightend up ? There has to be some level of protection to prevent us with mass homelesness people just cant be kicked out onto the street a process must be followed and the LL hasnt followed them here.

    If I were the LL id be getting the OP out but by fair means not foul. (Unless of course the maths say that doing so illegally is more likely to provide me with the most favourable outcome)

    There are certainly reforms that need to be done but not tightening up of rights as such.


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    #69
    The_Morrigan
    Registered Users Posts: 9,368 ✭✭✭The_Morrigan


    Export wrote: »
    This landlord is not in negative equity. He bought this house last year for 80k from the bank. It is a large 3 bed semi. He has since converted the downstairs sitting room into a flat. He is far from a 'decent' landlord. He is a greedy ignorant pig.

    Export....please do not make statements like this as your LL can more than likely identify himself from this thread if he did a check online.

    If you can't conduct yourself in a civil manner on the forum I will lock up the thread.


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    #70
    D3PO
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    drumswan wrote: »
    Who said it happens in 100% of cases? It would certainly happen in the case of a case of trespassing and same day eviction.

    No it would not. Its likely that an award would be made against the LL and its likely it would be significant i.e in the tousands but there is ZERO evidence to say that award would be 10K plus as people like to say here.

    PRTB awards for illegal eviction vary wildly in terms of monetary value and the majority are not 10k plus awards.


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    #71
    Mrs OBumble
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    Export wrote: »
    I will pay the rent when I have it. Currently waiting on my dole to come through.

    He 'started' with the heavy bully-boy thugish tactics, which brought out the 'stubborn' in me.


    Well go to your Community Welfare Office and get an advance. Then pay your rent, ASAP.

    Let me put this very bluntly: shelter is one of your most fundamental human needs. Because of this, paying your rent needs to be first priority in your budget.

    Pretty often, stubborn and smart don't go together.

    Be better than you LL and choose smart instead of stubborn, and things will go a lot better for you in the long run.


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    #72
    twowheelsonly
    Registered Users Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭twowheelsonly


    tunney wrote: »
    can a rented dwelling ever really be a home?

    Of course it can - Practically every Council Hose in the country is and many people spend their entire lives in flats and apartments that they call home.
    Export wrote: »
    This landlord is not in negative equity. He bought this house last year for 80k from the bank. It is a large 3 bed semi. He has since converted the downstairs sitting room into a flat. He is far from a 'decent' landlord. He is a greedy ignorant pig.

    How long have you lived there BTW ?
    Do you get rent allowance?


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    #73
    Export
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    Malarkey101 wrote: »
    Why do you seem to think you should be allowed to stay in a house without paying rent. If you couldn't afford it you shouldn't have signed a lease.

    My circumstances since I signed the lease have changed considerably, leaving me in the impossible situation of not affording to pay all of my rent.

    They came in as they thought there was no-one here and they had every intention of taking all my stuff out of the house in my absence. I have no doubt about that.


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    #74
    Export
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    twowheelsonly wrote: »
    Of course it can - Practically every Council Hose in the country is and many people spend their entire lives in flats and apartments that they call home.



    How long have you lived there BTW ?
    Do you get rent allowance?

    Since 1st June. He doesn't accept rent allowance, which wasn't an issue when I signed the lease, as I had a job and a co-tenant.


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    #75
    Potatoeman
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    Export wrote: »
    A month and a half.

    How are you behind and how are you planning to get out of arrears?


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    #76
    LiamoSail
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    Export wrote: »
    That's harsh.

    Thats life. If you can't support yourself, you suffer. It's been like that since the days of the hunter gatherer

    Perhaps try negotiate an increase in rent in return for the LL accepting RA for the duration of the lease?


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    #77
    Zamboni
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    Export wrote: »
    My circumstances since I signed the lease have changed considerably, leaving me in the impossible situation of not affording to pay all of my rent.

    They came in as they thought there was no-one here and they had every intention of taking all my stuff out of the house in my absence. I have no doubt about that.

    When do you intend on leaving?


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    #78
    Export
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    Zamboni wrote: »
    When do you intend on leaving?

    Either at the end of the term of the lease, if I get a job, or at the end of 28 days notice of eviction.


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    #79
    MadDog76
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    D3PO wrote: »
    1. Breach of the peace wouldnt be down to the tenant to "press charges on" :rolleyes:

    2. You cannot be charged with breaking and entering a property that belongs to you. As for your expereince if you have direct experience of the contrary please provide me the case details so I can look it up online ......

    1. It would be the Guards who would/could charge Breach of the Peace, the Tenant could press several other charges one of which would be Breaking & Entering ......... :rolleyes:

    2. I could do that if I felt the need prove something to you!! :D ???

    Also I wouldn't reveal personal information about myself online anyway ............. give me your full name, address and date of birth so I can look up online which law school you attended .......... please :rolleyes:


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    #80
    D3PO
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    Export wrote: »
    Since 1st June. He doesn't accept rent allowance, which wasn't an issue when I signed the lease, as I had a job and a co-tenant.


    Hmm so you had a job when you moved in 1st of June when you would have paid a months rent in advance to get you to 1st July yet your 1 and a 1/2 months behind on rent already ....

    nice troll.


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    #81
    Export
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    D3PO wrote: »
    Hmm so you had a job when you moved in 1st of June when you would have paid a months rent in advance to get you to 1st July yet your 1 and a 1/2 months behind on rent already ....

    nice troll.

    Eh, I'm 290 in arrears from 1st August and am now an additional 580 in arrears as of today.


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    #82
    Gatling
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    Export wrote: »
    Eh, I'm 290 in arrears from 1st August and am now an additional 580 in arrears as of today.

    Cheaper just to go
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    #83
    Zamboni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    Export wrote: »
    Either at the end of the term of the lease, if I get a job, or at the end of 28 days notice of eviction.

    What are the odds like of finding a job and being paid before the 28 days expire?


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    #84
    The_Morrigan
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    D3PO wrote: »
    1. Breach of the peace wouldnt be down to the tenant to "press charges on" :rolleyes:

    2. You cannot be charged with breaking and entering a property that belongs to you. As for your expereince if you have direct experience of the contrary please provide me the case details so I can look it up online ......
    MadDog76 wrote: »
    1. It would be the Guards who would/could charge Breach of the Peace, the Tenant could press several other charges one of which would be Breaking & Entering ......... :rolleyes:

    2. I could do that if I felt the need prove something to you!! :D ???

    Also I wouldn't reveal personal information about myself online anyway ............. give me your full name, address and date of birth so I can look up online which law school you attended .......... please :rolleyes:

    For the love of God give it over....take this ridiculous spat to pm please.


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    #85
    Export
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    Zamboni wrote: »
    What are the odds like of finding a job and being paid before the 28 days expire?

    Odds?
    I'm not a gambler.

    In any case, Notice of Eviction, once validly served, can be carried out, even if I pay all arrears.


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    #86
    Zamboni
    Registered Users Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    Export wrote: »
    Odds?
    I'm not a gambler.

    In any case, Notice of Eviction, once validly served, can be carried out, even if I pay all arrears.

    So either way you are going to leave the property in 28 days?


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    Export
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    Zamboni wrote: »
    So either way you are going to leave the property in 28 days?

    I haven't been served with a Notice of Eviction yet!


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    #88
    segadreamcast
    Registered Users Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭segadreamcast


    Export wrote: »
    Odds?
    I'm not a gambler.

    In any case, Notice of Eviction, once validly served, can be carried out, even if I pay all arrears.

    You're acting in a fairly illogical way. He doesn't accept rent allowance, you're unemployed, in arrears, clearly can't afford to pay and won't be able to clear this debt, yet you're running down the clock out of basically sheer malice. You should be moving somewhere cheaper than 580 a month or rent allowance accepted ASAP.

    Your landlord is no saint here either. But clearly you need to leave, leave soon (you're going to be served with an eviction notice today, I'd bet), and get yourself sorted out instead of dicking around.

    It strikes me as odd that the landlord pulled the trigger on a solicitor etc with you only being two weeks in arrears at the time. Is this your first time late with payment? Much like your post above, I'm not a gambler either, but I'd bet it's not.


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    #89
    tenifan
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    If you're trolling A&P, you're dishonest. Keep the nonsense for after hours.
    If you're trying to do your landlord out of rent, you're dishonest.
    Either way, you seem like a very dishonest person.


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    #90
    Potatoeman
    Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    So you lost your job and housemate at the same time?


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    #91
    RossieMan
    Registered Users Posts: 6,766 ✭✭✭RossieMan


    going by your threads, in a 2 week period, you seem to have the worst luck. OP seems like a troll looking for attention.


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