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Football All Stars 2014

  • 01-09-2014 4:59pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,780 ✭✭✭✭


    I know the final will decide an awful lot WRT these but might be fun to start putting some selections together now.

    I won't put in a full team but will take a stab at a few positions I think are locks and see if anyone disagrees and/or wants to fill in their own effort.

    Durcan

    CB
    FB
    CB

    WHB
    CHB
    WHB

    Moran
    MF

    Flynn
    CHF
    WHF

    James O'Donoghue ---- FF
    Cillian O'Connor


    I don't want to put in any more without thinking about it as I'd have Kerry players more in mind than would be probably correct, but other names that come to mind are Diarmuid Connolly, James McCarthy, Michael Murphy, MacNiallais, Paul Murphy, Keith Higgins, Ryan McHugh.

    From counties outside of the SFs there aren't too many jumping out at me. Don't think Cork have anyone to put forward this year, maybe Walsh from Galway, Walshe from Monaghan, Dyas from Armagh maybe?

    Those all seem like reaches to be honest, wouldn't view it askance if the all stars all came from the SF teams.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Fowler87


    As long as my 13/8 punt on COC comes in, I'm happy. Long awaited and long overdue for Cillian. Boyler and Skippy deserve awards too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭realweirdo


    Full forward will be interesting. Donaghy or Murphy...the final could decide everything. Andy Moran an outside bet but like Donaghy was more an impact player throughout championship.

    Aidan O'Shea or Shane Walsh in the running for CHF.

    Possibly Seamus O'Shea for midfield. I know he plays in patches but they are brillant patches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭Pinesky


    Higgins , m murphy , connolly would be my additions based on the year so far.
    Donaghy may yet upset all calculations as he did in 2006.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Seamus O' Shea was outplayed by Moran and the forgotten man Anthony Maher in the semi. I'd have the Kerry midfielders not to mention Neil Gallagher.

    Aidan O Shea played well in snatches and judging by last year that'll probably be good enough to win an AS.

    Connolly was poor in the provincial series but these things are decided on the latter stages so his very good quarter and semi will probably be enough.

    Tony Kernan played well for Armagh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,464 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Pinesky wrote: »
    Higgins , m murphy , connolly would be my additions based on the year so far.
    Donaghy may yet upset all calculations as he did in 2006.

    Donaghey only gets one if he has an influence on the final


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    I would be shocked if MacNiallais and Ryan McHugh weren't both included, as well as Michael Murphy. Where they get to them is possibly up for grabs.

    A good final for Donaghy could get him one.


    I reckon Paddy McGrath is in with a good shout, Keith Higgins did a pretty good job on JOD and is always consistent, both McGees will be there or thereabouts, Paul Murphy has had a strong season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭manofwisdom


    I think Donegal will win the AI and from it they should have the most All-Stars.

    Could change my mind yet but here's my stab at a team anyway.

    1. P Durcan (Donegal)
    2. A Mallon (Armagh)
    3. N McGee (Donegal)
    4. K Higgins (Mayo)
    5. R McHugh (Donegal)
    6. C Boyle (Mayo)
    7. F McGlynn (Donegal)
    8. N Gallagher (Donegal)
    9. D Moran (Kerry)
    10. D Walsh (Kerry)
    11. P Flynn (Dublin)
    12. D Connolly (Dublin)
    13. C O Connor (Mayo)
    14. M Murphy (Donegal)
    15. J O Donoghue (Kerry)

    Player of the year - J O Donoghue (Kerry)

    Young player of the year - R McHugh (Donegal)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,541 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Durcan

    K.Higgins
    N.McGee
    A.Mallon

    P.Murphy
    C.Boyle
    F.McGlynn

    N.Gallagher
    A.Maher

    P.Flynn
    D.Connolly
    R.McHugh (could be included in backs either. MOM in Ulster ifnal)

    C.O'Connor
    M.Murphy/K.Donaghy (depending on influence and result in final)
    J.O'Donoghue

    Think full back line, Boyle and McGlynn are certs, along with Gallagher, Flynn, Connolly, O'Connor, O'Donoghue. Final spots between McHugh,Moran/Maher,Walsh, Murphy and Donaghy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,780 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Maher getting one ahead of Moran seems somewhat unlikely Castletownman


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭realweirdo


    corny wrote: »
    Seamus O' Shea was outplayed by Moran and the forgotten man Anthony Maher in the semi. I'd have the Kerry midfielders not to mention Neil Gallagher.

    Aidan O Shea played well in snatches and judging by last year that'll probably be good enough to win an AS.

    Connolly was poor in the provincial series but these things are decided on the latter stages so his very good quarter and semi will probably be enough.

    Tony Kernan played well for Armagh.

    Anthony Maher was taken off in the first game after Kerry were cleaned out for most of the second half and I can't remember him doing much in the replay.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,780 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    realweirdo wrote: »
    Anthony Maher was taken off in the first game after Kerry were cleaned out for most of the second half and I can't remember him doing much in the replay.

    He was very good in the replay but that was his first really good game all year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Moran, Crowley and JOD should be locked in at this stage for Kerry.

    C O Connor for Mayo and M Murphy for Donegal are the other two guaranteed

    Crowley has been immense all year and getting very little praise for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    keane2097 wrote: »
    I know the final will decide an awful lot WRT these but might be fun to start putting some selections together now.

    I won't put in a full team but will take a stab at a few positions I think are locks and see if anyone disagrees and/or wants to fill in their own effort.

    Durcan

    CB
    FB
    CB

    WHB
    CHB
    WHB

    Moran
    MF

    Flynn
    CHF
    WHF

    James O'Donoghue ---- FF
    Cillian O'Connor


    I don't want to put in any more without thinking about it as I'd have Kerry players more in mind than would be probably correct, but other names that come to mind are Diarmuid Connolly, James McCarthy, Michael Murphy, MacNiallais, Paul Murphy, Keith Higgins, Ryan McHugh.

    From counties outside of the SFs there aren't too many jumping out at me. Don't think Cork have anyone to put forward this year, maybe Walsh from Galway, Walshe from Monaghan, Dyas from Armagh maybe?

    Those all seem like reaches to be honest, wouldn't view it askance if the all stars all came from the SF teams.

    Out of what you left I would say Connolly as a maybe.

    Michael Murphy and R McHugh as certs especially if Donegal win.

    Keith Higgins, no question. Was absolutely remarkable fover the last two weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    realweirdo wrote: »
    Anthony Maher was taken off in the first game after Kerry were cleaned out for most of the second half and I can't remember him doing much in the replay.

    Got very tired and was replaced in the first game. Wouldn't hold it against him that he went out of the game either. Kerry, as a team, struggled during that period.

    He was excellent in the replay.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Moran, Crowley and JOD should be locked in at this stage for Kerry.

    C O Connor for Mayo and M Murphy for Donegal are the other two guaranteed

    Crowley has been immense all year and getting very little praise for it.

    Keith Higgins is surely a lockdown?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,351 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    Ugh. Hate these discussions until the Final is over.

    But anyway.

    I think based on the three semi final games, Paul Durcan is nearly guaranteed to be goalkeeper.
    I think Neil McGee and Keith Higgins will get the nod in the full back line.
    James O'Donoghue and Cillian O'Connor for full forward line.
    One if not both of Paul Flynn and Diarmuid Connolly.

    Outsiders mention in first post:
    Colin Walshe - no, not enough to keep out others who played in semi final.
    Shane Walsh - probably not, I don't think he showed enough against Kerry
    Kevin Dyas - no, I don't think he did enough against Donegal.

    From Armagh, I guess Andy Mallon and maybe even Stefan Campbell might get nominated.

    All in all, I think there are too many good players among the four semi finalists to ensure no other players get awards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Redsoxfan wrote: »
    Ugh. Hate these discussions until the Final is over.

    But anyway.

    I think based on the three semi final games, Paul Durcan is nearly guaranteed to be goalkeeper.
    I think Neil McGee and Keith Higgins will get the nod in the full back line.
    James O'Donoghue and Cillian O'Connor for full forward line.
    One if not both of Paul Flynn and Diarmuid Connolly.

    Outsiders mention in first post:
    Colin Walshe - no, not enough to keep out others who played in semi final.
    Shane Walsh - probably not, I don't think he showed enough against Kerry
    Kevin Dyas - no, I don't think he did enough against Donegal.

    From Armagh, I guess Andy Mallon and maybe even Stefan Campbell might get nominated.

    All in all, I think there are too many good players among the four semi finalists to ensure no other players get awards.

    +1
    Can't see any footballer outside of the semi finalists having a snowball's chance of getting an all star.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭SeanJ09


    For me so far:
    1. Durcan
    2. Higgins
    3.McGee
    4.McGee
    5.P. Murphy
    6.C.Boyle
    7.F. McGlynn
    8.Gallagher
    9.Moran
    10.P.Flynn
    11. A' O Shea
    12.R.Mchugh
    13.O'Connor
    14.M Murphy
    15.James O'D

    As for Donaghy, he will have the best full back in the game on him and a sweeper for company in the final, rather than Ger Cafferkey so can't see him within an asses roar of an All-Star.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Keith Higgins is surely a lockdown?

    JOD scored 3 9 over the two games off him.

    I dont think so


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭realweirdo


    JOD scored 3 9 over the two games off him.

    I dont think so

    You cannot seriously blame Keith Higgins for the 2 penalties he scored...quite aside from the fact neither of them would have been awarded by a competent ref.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    seligehgit wrote: »
    +1
    Can't see any footballer outside of the semi finalists having a snowball's chance of getting an all star.

    Armagh reached the AI quarter final beating Tyrone away on route and only lost by one point to Donegal. They deserve at least one all-star with Mallon looking the most likely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Paul Durcan

    Paddy McGrath
    Neil McGee
    Keith Higgins

    Paul Murphy
    Colm Boyle
    Frank McGlynn

    David Moran
    Odhran MacNiallas

    Paul Flynn
    Ryan McHugh
    Diarmuid Connolly

    Cillian O'Connor
    Michael Murphy
    James O'Donoghue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    realweirdo wrote: »
    You cannot seriously blame Keith Higgins for the 2 penalties he scored...quite aside from the fact neither of them would have been awarded by a competent ref.

    Paidi o shea gave up one point to his marker from play in ten all ireland finals.

    K. higgins gave up 1 9 from play in two games. You can take away the penalties, fine. They were both stonewall penalties btw, and that leaves 1 9 mostly from play. Thats not all star material. You are totally blinkered. Jod waltzed through in the first game and put one wide and one over he would normally bury. K higgins is over rated


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭realweirdo


    Paidi o shea gave up one point to his marker from play in ten all ireland finals.

    K. higgins gave up 1 9 from play in two games. You can take away the penalties, fine. They were both stonewall penalties btw, and that leaves 1 9 mostly from play. Thats not all star material. You are totally blinkered. Jod waltzed through in the first game and put one wide and one over he would normally bury. K higgins is over rated

    What on earth are you talking about? JOD only scored 4 points off Higgins from play in the replay. He scored 2-2 from frees and penalties.

    Care to withdraw your "over-rated" remark now?

    In any case, like I said the two penos wouldn't have been awarded by a competent ref, and in the first game, Donaghy put the goal on a plate for JOD.

    If we were to follow your rationale, I could say JOD is over-rated, but I'm not like you thankfully.

    Keith Higgins is far from over-rated. He was a top class footballer before anyone had ever heard of JOD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,780 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    I think Higgins is excellent but do think he's gotten too much praise over the two games.

    Maybe people expect JOD to score every time he gets the ball or something. He did actually win the two pens he scored don't forget.

    Tbf Higgins was a driving force when Mayo did have the ball ok.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭realweirdo


    keane2097 wrote: »
    I think Higgins is excellent but do think he's gotten too much praise over the two games.

    Maybe people expect JOD to score every time he gets the ball or something. He did actually win the two pens he scored don't forget.

    Tbf Higgins was a driving force when Mayo did have the ball ok.

    I hate to repeat this, but JOD wouldn't win those penos in any other game. He was well marshalled in the first game until Donaghy put the goal on a plate.

    He missed a couple of easy chances in both games and a certain goal in the first game. If we were to take a critical approach we'd say his finishing let him down on occassions.

    Make no mistake, JOD is a good player, a great player and footballer of the year in my book. And Higgins did an outstanding job on him. Higgins has been the most consistant and outstanding player for Mayo over the last 5 or 6 years and in the country for that matter. Anyone says he's over-rated is having a laugh and doesn't know what they are talking about. Kerry and Mayo have both made it to the same number of AI finals in recent years, 2 each. So far this Kerry team's record is no better than Mayo's in recent years.

    And there's one thing reaching a final, winning one is another matter totally. We will see how great this Kerry team are when it really counts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,780 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Even if you granted that he wouldn't get either penalty, which very few people seem to think, Higgins still let him out of his sight for what, four clear goal chances? On top of 1-7 from play and however many scorable frees he won over the two games.

    Higgins is the best CB in the country IMO but I wonder how much JOD would have had to do for people to say Higgins was decorated. Not that he was decorated but he was nowhere near breaking even.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 974 ✭✭✭realweirdo


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Even if you granted that he wouldn't get either penalty, which very few people seem to think, Higgins still let him out of his sight for what, four clear goal chances? On top of 1-7 from play and however many scorable frees he won over the two games.

    Higgins is the best CB in the country IMO but I wonder how much JOD would have had to do for people to say Higgins was decorated. Not that he was decorated but he was nowhere near breaking even.

    Part of Higgins role is to start attacks from deep. He almost plays two games at once, defence and attack. JOD wouldn't know how to defend and only has to worry about one thing, getting past Higgins. So hardly surprising Higgins will get turned on occassion. The job Higgins gets asked to do in most games is almost impossible. He's up and down the field like a hare. And never seems to get subbed. He's far from over-rated, he's been central to Mayo success the last few years.

    So far this year no defender in the country has been able to contain JOD. Higgins has probably done the best, but have to remember that was two games and a 6 day turnaround and Higgins probably ran more than anyone in the first game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,780 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    realweirdo wrote: »
    Part of Higgins role is to start attacks from deep. He almost plays two games at once, defence and attack. JOD wouldn't know how to defend and only has to worry about one thing, getting past Higgins. So hardly surprising Higgins will get turned on occassion. The job Higgins gets asked to do in most games is almost impossible. He's up and down the field like a hare. And never seems to get subbed. He's far from over-rated, he's been central to Mayo success the last few years.

    So far this year no defender in the country has been able to contain JOD. Higgins has probably done the best, but have to remember that was two games and a 6 day turnaround and Higgins probably ran more than anyone in the first game.

    I don't disagree with any of that really. Higgins did better than anyone this year head to head and def was involved in driving Mayo from the back as I mentioned earlier. He's brill at that.

    At the moment I would be picking him for an All Star alright.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Paidi o shea gave up one point to his marker from play in ten all ireland finals.

    K. higgins gave up 1 9 from play in two games. You can take away the penalties, fine. They were both stonewall penalties btw, and that leaves 1 9 mostly from play. Thats not all star material. You are totally blinkered. Jod waltzed through in the first game and put one wide and one over he would normally bury. K higgins is over rated


    And if if Páidí was still playing would he still have only given up that amount?

    The game is a completely different beast now.

    It's like comparing apples and oranges. Bizarre comment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Fowler87 wrote: »
    long overdue for Cillian

    I googled that. Quite amazing that COC still hasn't win all star, although I'm sure he'll win one this year. Not that he'll care too much.

    The semi finalists will probably get most awards, but Kernan and Campbell from Armagh may have a chance.

    Forwards are COC, JOD, Murphy and probably McHugh and Flynn. Still a spot up for grabs.
    Unless somebody does something amazing in the final, I'd give it to Kernan


  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭Old_-_School


    keane2097 wrote: »
    He was very good in the replay but that was his first really good game all year.

    He was excellent v Cork also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭ciarriaithuaidh


    Lads, lot of ridiculous stuff here. Firstly a few facts.
    1. Páidi O'Sé was a great corner back but that 0-1 conceded in Finals thing is a myth. For one thing he was marking Paudge Quinn in 1986 and he got a goal at least.
    2. Higgins v JOD was a great battle. JOD got 1-3 from play in Croker, 0-4 on Saturday. In both games Higgins won at least 40% of 1v1 contests. Not the majority, but there is no corner back in the game that could do better on Ham-ez right now. Look at the first point he got on Saturday. Receives a great ball into a 1v1 situation. Higgins prevents him going inside for goal but JOD turns outside and hooks the ball high over the bar to avoid the attempted block. Nothing more any corner back could do.

    The 2 of them are nailed on All stars if the awards have any credibility left. It's been a long time since I've seen such a captivating 1v1 duel in the football championship.


  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭Old_-_School


    Lads, lot of ridiculous stuff here. Firstly a few facts.
    1. Páidi O'Sé was a great corner back but that 0-1 conceded in Finals thing is a myth. For one thing he was marking Paudge Quinn in 1986 and he got a goal at least.
    2. Higgins v JOD was a great battle. JOD got 1-3 from play in Croker, 0-4 on Saturday. In both games Higgins won at least 40% of 1v1 contests. Not the majority, but there is no corner back in the game that could do better on Ham-ez right now. Look at the first point he got on Saturday. Receives a great ball into a 1v1 situation. Higgins prevents him going inside for goal but JOD turns outside and hooks the ball high over the bar to avoid the attempted block. Nothing more any corner back could do.

    The 2 of them are nailed on All stars if the awards have any credibility left. It's been a long time since I've seen such a captivating 1v1 duel in the football championship.

    Giles v Ryan in the 97 trilogy? Both won all-star on the back of it.

    Bellew v Donaghy in 06 was pretty captivating also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Dots1982


    Laughable stuff on this trend. Anyone who plays or played football will know Keith Higgins done an unbeliveable job on JOD. Cunniffe and Cafferky were dreadfully outplayed and exposed Higgins but Higgins showed he really is the best man marker out there by dispossessing, blocking & harrassing JOD and giving him nothing easy. Mayo would have being blown out the gate if it wasn't for Higgins both days.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 257 ✭✭dcrosskid


    I think the All Stars are definitely going to come from the 4 semi finalist, but I hope Tipp's Colin O Riordan gets a nomination. He was outstanding all year and won player of the month for his performances against Laois and especially Galway when we were very much up against it.

    Footballer of the year is James O Donoghue so far. If Murphey or Ryan McHugh are on the winning side and produce m.o.m. performances it might be a different outcome.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Ed Winchester


    dcrosskid wrote: »
    I think the All Stars are definitely going to come from the 4 semi finalist, but I hope Tipp's Colin O Riordan gets a nomination. He was outstanding all year and won player of the month for his performances against Laois and especially Galway when we were very much up against it.

    Footballer of the year is James O Donoghue so far. If Murphey or Ryan McHugh are on the winning side and produce m.o.m. performances it might be a different outcome.

    I might be a bit biased, but i think Paul Flynn is POTY so far. He's been simply incredible every time he's walked on to the pitch this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    I might be a bit biased, but i think Paul Flynn is POTY so far. He's been simply incredible every time he's walked on to the pitch this year.

    I think Paul will be our only All Star this year, there's always a degree of disparity with these awards. The AI Champions will invariably get 5-7, losers 4-5 and the crumbs will fall to those who genuinely deserve one and then some charity cases. Unfortunately the likes of McCarthy who I thought was outstanding this year and of course Cooper will have fallen on their sword after last Sunday .. not that they'll care tbh


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,393 ✭✭✭Ed Winchester


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    I think Paul will be our only All Star this year, there's always a degree of disparity with these awards. The AI Champions will invariably get 5-7, losers 4-5 and the crumbs will fall to those who genuinely deserve one and then some charity cases. Unfortunately the likes of McCarthy who I thought was outstanding this year and of course Cooper will have fallen on their sword after last Sunday .. not that they'll care tbh

    I think we'll get two. Dermo should get one. The only thing that will go against him is will we get two in the same line.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,672 ✭✭✭elefant


    I think Jason Doherty is worth a shout for an all-star. He's done excellently in every Mayo game I've seen, winning breaks, working hard and getting some great scores.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    elefant wrote: »
    I think Jason Doherty is worth a shout for an all-star. He's done excellently in every Mayo game I've seen, winning breaks, working hard and getting some great scores.

    Again much like the Dublin set up, Mayo won't get 2 all stars in the forward line


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭GBXI


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    Again much like the Dublin set up, Mayo won't get 2 all stars in the forward line

    There's a decent chance they'll get two if they decide to give Aidan O'Shea the number 11 jersey, because O'Connor is a cert. Anyway, I think the number 11 jersey is between Connolly and O'Shea, so either Mayo or Dublin could have 2 in the one line.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭Prop Joe


    Paul Durcan

    Keith Higgins
    Neil McGee
    Andy Mallon/Paul Murphy

    Fionn Fitzgearld
    Peter Crowley
    Ryan McHugh


    David Moran
    Odhran MacNiallais

    Paul Flynn
    Diarmuid Connolly
    Donnacha Walsh

    James O'Donoghue
    Michael Murphy
    Cillian O Connor

    YPOTY - Ryan McHugh
    POTY - James O Donoghue

    Kerry - 5/6
    Donegal - 5
    Dublin - 2
    Mayo - 2
    Armagh - 1?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    GBXI wrote: »
    There's a decent chance they'll get two if they decide to give Aidan O'Shea the number 11 jersey, because O'Connor is a cert. Anyway, I think the number 11 jersey is between Connolly and O'Shea, so either Mayo or Dublin could have 2 in the one line.

    I'm not saying they don't deserve one, but with probably 9-10 taken from the finalists - I'd suggest maybe Hennelly would be Mayo best shout at a 2nd all star - to give a more representative feel to the team I'd say the likes of Shane Walsh might get a HF nomination


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭GBXI


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    I'm not saying they don't deserve one, but with probably 9-10 taken from the finalists - I'd suggest maybe Hennelly would be Mayo best shout at a 2nd all star - to give a more representative feel to the team I'd say the likes of Shane Walsh might get a HF nomination

    Oh Mayo are near certainties to get two All Stars anyway, Higgins and O'Connor. Decent possibility of a third, as I was saying, in O'Shea. But half forward line will probably be McHugh, Connolly, Flynn. I thought Hennelly had a great year and would be very close but if Donegal win Durkan is a cert to get the no. 1 jersey, and if Kerry win, it'll most likely be the Kerry keeper, that's just the way it goes as you say with finalists. On Shane Walsh, he has been and is the best number 11 in Ireland this year but he hasn't a notion of winning one. Definite nomination though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    No way in hell regardless of the result should Kerry get the GK spot.

    Has to be Durkan for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,593 ✭✭✭DoctaDee


    GBXI wrote: »
    Oh Mayo are near certainties to get two All Stars anyway, Higgins and O'Connor. .......

    Sorry yeah Higgins was top drawer this year .. agreed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭GBXI


    No way in hell regardless of the result should Kerry get the GK spot.

    Has to be Durkan for me.

    I'd agree with you there, I don't particularly rate the Kerry keeper at all, but look at the bookies odds, Hennelly isn't even priced!! Don't ask me how!

    Interestingly, barely anyone on this thread has mentioned Karl Lacey even though he is 1/7 with the bookies to win a half back All Star!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    DoctaDee wrote: »
    Again much like the Dublin set up, Mayo won't get 2 all stars in the forward line

    I think there's a fair chance Aidan O Shea will pick up a gong alongside Cillian O Connor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    Current odds from Paddypower
    Goalkeeper

    Paul Durcan 2/5
    Brian Kelly 5/2
    Rory Beggan 4/1
    Stephen Cluxton 7/1

    Full Back

    Keith Higgins 1/12
    Neil McGee 1/9
    Eamon McGee 6/4
    Paddy McGrath 2/1
    Andy Mallon 10/3
    Paul Murphy 4/1
    Drew Wylie 9/2
    Aidan O Mahony 5/1
    Marc O'Se 7/1
    Philip McMahon 7/1
    Shane Enright 9/1

    Half Backs

    Karl Lacey 1/3
    Frank McGlynn 2/5
    Colm Boyle evens
    Dessie Mone 3/1
    Killian Young 9/4
    Peter Crowley 9/4
    Fionn Fitzgerald 9/4
    Anthony Thompson 7/2
    Lee Keegan 4/1
    James McCarthy 5/1
    Aaron Kernan 13/2

    Midfielders

    David Moran 1/3
    Neil Gallagher 4/9
    Aidan O'Shea 5/2
    Johnny Buckley 9/2
    Anthony Maher 9/2
    Michael D MacAuley 5/1
    Thomas Flynn 16/1


    Half Forwards

    Ryan McHugh 1/8
    Diarmuid Connolly 3/10
    Paul Flynn 3/10
    Odhran Mac Niallais 8/13
    Donnchadh Walsh 8/15
    Leo McLoone 9/1
    Shane Walsh 14/1
    Stephen O Brien 16/1
    Bryan Sheehan 16/1
    Tony Kernan 25/1
    Kevin Dyas 25/1

    Full Forwards

    James O'Donoghue 1/500
    Michael Murphy 1/10
    Cillian O'Connor 1/8
    Paul Geaney 9/2
    Declan O'Sullivan 11/2
    Bernard Brogan 15/2
    Colm McFadden 8/1
    Conor McManus 10/1
    Jamie Clarke 14/1
    Paddy McBrearty 14/1
    Colm O'Neill 25/1
    Conor Sweeney 33/1

    Based on those odds (and assuming that there is no switching of positions the 15 All-Stars would be

    Paul Durcan 2/5
    Keith Higgins 1/12
    Neil McGee 1/9
    Eamon McGee 6/4
    Karl Lacey 1/3
    Frank McGlynn 2/5
    Colm Boyle evens
    David Moran 1/3
    Neil Gallagher 4/9
    Ryan McHugh 1/8
    Diarmuid Connolly 3/10
    Paul Flynn 3/10
    James O'Donoghue 1/500
    Michael Murphy 1/10
    Cillian O'Connor 1/8

    This would be
    Donegal 8
    Mayo 3
    Kerry 2
    Dublin 2

    You would have to imagine that this is very likely to be the outcome if Donegal win - does seem a bit odd that currently only 2 Kerry players are in the 15

    If Kerry win those likely to come into the reckoning are

    Donnchadh Walsh 8/15
    Killian Young 9/4
    Peter Crowley 9/4
    Fionn Fitzgerald 9/4

    lots of half-back competition so very hard to see all these 3 getting in [anyone know the lowest number of All-Stars a winning All-Ireland team has picked up ?]

    looking at these odds hard to see anyone outside the 4 semi-finalist teams pick up a nod

    Ryan McHugh is 1/33 for YPOTY - if he has a quiet final he might be edged out of an All-Star seeing as he is almost a cert to pick up YPOTY

    I think even if JOD has a quiet final he still has a massive chance at picking up POTY


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