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Things which surprised/shocked you about specific US cities

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  • 03-09-2014 6:42pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 75 ✭✭


    I’m sure we all had preconceptions about America before we first visited. What things surprised or shocked you that aren't mentioned in the travel books? Let’s get a good mix of positives and negatives.

    Positives:

    Los Angeles: I heard so many negatives about this city before coming over (especially from Irish people) that I was pleasantly surprised to discover that it wasn’t hell on Earth after all. Great beaches, weather, restaurants. It’s such a huge city with so many different neighbourhoods to explore like Koreatown and Venice that it’s impossible generalise. Only disappointment was Hollywood (see below). I’d recommend renting a car as the city was built for automobiles, but it is possible to get around on the underground metro and buses.

    New York: The taxis have TVs inside which I thought was interesting. So do some of the city buses.

    Niagara Falls has a whole city beside it. I naively thought the falls were out in the wilderness somewhere.

    General US: all those little corner stores like Walgreens and CVS are open 24/7. Convenience is king in America. Makes a nice change to everywhere closing at 7pm on a Sunday in Ireland.

    Only poor people pay with cash. Everybody else uses cards. You will get strange looks if you try to pay with a $50 bill. They’re not as commonly used as the €50 back home.

    Negatives:

    San Francisco: Huge amount of homeless people. People talk about San Fran like it’s some fantastic liberal paradise but I found it’s a mixture of hipster and techie transplants from the Mid-West with homeless bums.

    Hollywood: It’s not very glamorous at all. Hollywood Blvd is lined with tattoo shops, fast food restaurants and hustlers trying to get you to take their tour. The stars on the pavement are quite grubby and dirty.

    General US: Stay away from Greyhound bus. I’ve had more pleasant bus rides in third world countries – no exaggeration. For more info see this thread
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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Minneapolis.

    Population was much larger than I thought.

    Orlando.

    So many Brazilians and foreigners.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭lil_lisa


    I've been here over 5 years. There are a lot of things which have started to seem normal to me and I don't notice until I go home or have guests over from Ireland.

    A few things I continue to notice:
    • Store clerks love to greet with a smile
    • Everyone says "Have a nice day", even me now!
    • Everyone is "Irish", it mostly makes me upset because I'm excited when I meet Irish people, but a lot have never set foot in the country
    • People here love food. Everything revolves around food

    Honestly, I didn't really know what to expect. I had been living under a rock in Ireland and had read articles and news about the US but never really paid much attention.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    truffle5 wrote: »
    I’m sure we all had preconceptions about America before we first visited. What things surprised or shocked you that aren't mentioned in the travel books? Let’s get a good mix of positives and negatives.

    Positives:

    Los Angeles: I heard so many negatives about this city before coming over (especially from Irish people) that I was pleasantly surprised to discover that it wasn’t hell on Earth after all. Great beaches, weather, restaurants. It’s such a huge city with so many different neighbourhoods to explore like Koreatown and Venice that it’s impossible generalise. Only disappointment was Hollywood (see below). I’d recommend renting a car as the city was built for automobiles, but it is possible to get around on the underground metro and buses.

    New York: The taxis have TVs inside which I thought was interesting. So do some of the city buses.

    Niagara Falls has a whole city beside it. I naively thought the falls were out in the wilderness somewhere.

    General US: all those little corner stores like Walgreens and CVS are open 24/7. Convenience is king in America. Makes a nice change to everywhere closing at 7pm on a Sunday in Ireland.

    Only poor people pay with cash. Everybody else uses cards. You will get strange looks if you try to pay with a $50 bill. They’re not as commonly used as the €50 back home.

    Negatives:

    San Francisco: Huge amount of homeless people. People talk about San Fran like it’s some fantastic liberal paradise but I found it’s a mixture of hipster and techie transplants from the Mid-West with homeless bums.

    Hollywood: It’s not very glamorous at all. Hollywood Blvd is lined with tattoo shops, fast food restaurants and hustlers trying to get you to take their tour. The stars on the pavement are quite grubby and dirty.

    General US: Stay away from Greyhound bus. I’ve had more pleasant bus rides in third world countries – no exaggeration. For more info see this thread
    /vbulletin/showthread.php?p=91606973

    I loved this we'd go to the mall to 10pm on a sunday. On a sunday here everywhere is shut, the latest we were open to was about 8pm which is pathetic. To me the idea of shops not being open on Sunday does not flow its time the governments got rid of this nonsense.

    Pity we don't have a CVS.

    Maybe its different in ROI but at least here where I live everyone uses cards - I got my first card at 16 and use it all the time, at present I have a master card with a contact-less payment chip facility. I've never seen a £50 note.
    I noticed the use of cheques in America which stopped here a long long time ago.

    Another thing I noticed was the fact that the shop keepers are very strict with legislation.. here I think you need to be 16 to get a scratch card but tbh you can buy one at 12 if you want, when I was in Publix it was different, I tried to buy a scratch card out of the machine and THREE times workers came and asked me for ID I was very shocked. Its only a scratch card its not exactly going to kill me is it - can't see the need for this legislation really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    truffle5 wrote: »
    Hollywood: It’s not very glamorous at all. Hollywood Blvd is lined with tattoo shops, fast food restaurants and hustlers trying to get you to take their tour. The stars on the pavement are quite grubby and dirty.

    Back in the 20's, when the big movie studios were looking for large tracts of land to build their studios on, the only land that they could afford was in Hollywood. Land was mega cheap there, as it was the sleazy part of town. (It still is.) So as more and more studios set up shop there, Hollywood became the movie capital of the world, because that is where the heavily industrial work of actual movie making took place. But anyone with any money never lived there.They lived in Bel Air, Brentwood, Bev Hills etc etc.

    Having the studios around never upped the tone of the place, any more than having lots of factories or warehouses upped the tone of an Irish town or suburb. I have a fair bit of a family in the area. Visitors (who don't know the history of LA) are always let down by how run down the area is. I've often wondered why LA city authorities don't put more effort into cleaning the place up and make it more tourist friendly. Just the mere word "Hollywood" has to be any marketers wet dream.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    I'd love to visit Los Angeles but its so god damn far away and expensive.

    We tried to incorporate into our holiday this time but after discovering that villas were £3000 a week that ship sailed soon..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,306 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    owenc wrote: »
    I'd love to visit Los Angeles but its so god damn far away and expensive.

    We tried to incorporate into our holiday this time but after discovering that villas were £3000 a week that ship sailed soon..
    Did you google anything else besides "rent LA villa"?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭iusedtoknow


    San Francisco: I had been years ago on vacation, and then was offered a job here - so took it.

    What I was surprised by: The amount of homelessness. Some of it self-inflicted, you'd have people wanting to come to Haight Ashbury and live in a flop house, sit at the top of golden gate park with their dogs, high or meth'd out. A few were interviewed and were kids from other parts that wanted to "experience" the haight for a while before heading back to their families
    You also have homeless people with mental health issues, many of whom are actually from out of state and bussed in and left. Many of these are ex-cons or schizophrenics that their home states (ahem..Nevada is the main culprit) just don't want to look after.

    The cost of living: Rent is off the charts, we are in a rent control and still pay 2600 a month. We tied ourselves in a couple of years back, now it is even worse

    The anti-tech movement: A lot of tech companies are down in the valley, and there are startups paying crazy money in the city. Landlords can charge what they want, making it hard for minimum wage earners to survive. The arts are suffering, this in turn is causing some parts of society to be very "anti tech". Commuter busses are egged, flyers are dropped in their neighborhoods telling their neighbors what they do at the company, and how much they earn etc. I'm lumped in with it all , even though I am in pharmaceutical technology and not part of the new brand of start-ups


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Esel wrote: »
    Did you google anything else besides "rent LA villa"?

    Its worth nothing that "villa" is not a widely used word in the US. If you google rent LA villa you'll probably get a site specifically geared towards Europeans.

    To the average American its a kind of house the ancient romans used to live in.

    Americans rent "Vacation Rentals".


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    I'm not thick I have cousins in Canada and I have been to America before.

    We used official sites e.g. home away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭iusedtoknow


    owenc wrote: »
    I'm not thick I have cousins in Canada and I have been to America before.

    We used official sites e.g. home away.

    Well aside from it being really rare for americans to rent houses for vacations in cities (if visiting a city, most americas stay in hotels, house rentals are kept for national parks/rural types of vacation), homeaway seems to have a lot of places in Beverly Hills, Melrose, Hollywood hills etc that are of course going to be that expensive - a quick reverse image search on one of the properties for 2000 a week shows that Cheryl Cole lived in it for a while.

    Whenever I go to LA we stay in the less "glamorous" parts of the city like the Valley with friends or in an Air BnB in Venice Beach...a lot more affordable.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Architecture.

    Something that was a revelation to me when I moved here was the size of a lot of cities.

    You see those distinctive clumps of skyscrapers in the downtown areas and assume the city is Huge, like Manhattan. But really a lot of them are no larger than Cork or Galway but you throw in a few skyscrapers and you get the impression the places is massive.

    Also in the west especially, house construction is woodframe. And they don't last long at all, so there is a constant cycle of demolition and rebuilding. A house pre-1930's would be considered "historic".


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,524 ✭✭✭owenc


    Well aside from it being really rare for americans to rent houses for vacations in cities (if visiting a city, most americas stay in hotels, house rentals are kept for national parks/rural types of vacation), homeaway seems to have a lot of places in Beverly Hills, Melrose, Hollywood hills etc that are of course going to be that expensive - a quick reverse image search on one of the properties for 2000 a week shows that Cheryl Cole lived in it for a while.

    Whenever I go to LA we stay in the less "glamorous" parts of the city like the Valley with friends or in an Air BnB in Venice Beach...a lot more affordable.

    Well we stay in golf resorts but they seem to be expensive there!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭iusedtoknow


    owenc wrote: »
    Well we stay in golf resorts but they seem to be expensive there!

    There is the problem...golf resorts out west are usually mixed with country clubs which are extremely expensive - a lot of those houses would be used by pro's in the off season...hence the cost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭iusedtoknow


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    Architecture.

    Something that was a revelation to me when I moved here was the size of a lot of cities.

    You see those distinctive clumps of skyscrapers in the downtown areas and assume the city is Huge, like Manhattan. But really a lot of them are no larger than Cork or Galway but you throw in a few skyscrapers and you get the impression the places is massive.

    Also in the west especially, house construction is woodframe. And they don't last long at all, so there is a constant cycle of demolition and rebuilding. A house pre-1930's would be considered "historic".

    Yeah, it really confounded me. San Francisco is only 49 square miles and is mostly single family homes or lowrise apartment buildings with an extremely low people/square mile - which is adding to high cost of housing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 75 ✭✭truffle5


    lil_lisa wrote: »
    A few things I continue to notice:
    • Store clerks love to greet with a smile
    • Everyone says "Have a nice day", even me now!

    You'll notice that a store clerk will acknowledge you every time you enter the store and even when they pass you in the aisle. They must repeat "welcome to Walgreens" a million times per day which must get very tedious. I think part of it is them letting you know they're aware that you're in the store so don't even think about stealing anything!
    San Francisco:
    The anti-tech movement: A lot of tech companies are down in the valley, and there are startups paying crazy money in the city. Landlords can charge what they want, making it hard for minimum wage earners to survive. The arts are suffering, this in turn is causing some parts of society to be very "anti tech". Commuter busses are egged, flyers are dropped in their neighborhoods telling their neighbors what they do at the company, and how much they earn etc. I'm lumped in with it all , even though I am in pharmaceutical technology and not part of the new brand of start-ups

    I never understood the anti-gentrification brigade. Would you rather live in an "authentic" run-down, crime-ridden ghetto neighbourhood or a safe, gentrified hipster one? The tech boom is the best thing to happen to Northern California since the gold rush imo. Many parts of New York suffer the same problem from locals complaining that they're being inundated with transplants who are pricing them out of their neighbourhoods and bringing their chain franchises like Starbucks with them.

    Check out this report on threatening graffiti targeting hipsters in San Fran's Mission neighbourhood. www (dot) nbcbayarea (dot) com/news/local/Threatening-Graffiti-Targets-Hipsters-in-San-Franciscos-Mission-District-267751121.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭iusedtoknow


    truffle5 wrote: »

    I never understood the anti-gentrification brigade. Would you rather live in an "authentic" run-down, crime-ridden ghetto neighbourhood or a safe, gentrified hipster one? The tech boom is the best thing to happen to Northern California since the gold rush imo. Many parts of New York suffer the same problem from locals complaining that they're being inundated with transplants who are pricing them out of their neighbourhoods and bringing their chain franchises like Starbucks with them.

    I don't understand it either but maybe it is because I am part of the "problem". We can afford to pay what is being asked for in rent, it isn't nice but it is the choice we made to live in the city. It's also close to my wife's hospital so she can safely walk to and from work at ridiculous hours.

    On NPR a few weeks ago, there was a piece exploring the tenant history of an apartment in the mission. They started off with the current occupant, an artist who is being put out so the landlord can renovate and charge higher rent. The twist was that when she moved in, it was because the landlord had rennovated 15 years back, and the hispanic family that lived there couldn't afford the rent he wanted to charge. So even though was "anti gentrification" she herself was part of it, albeit 15 years ago.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 75 ✭✭truffle5


    I think that we are finally seeing a reversal of the "white flight" that occurred in many American cities in the 1960s. Educated white middle class kids are moving into the inner cities to be close to work and to get away from boring suburbia. They are bringing money into the area and businesses follow them. How is this a bad thing? Does anyone really want to go back to 1980s pre-Giuliani Manhattan when Times Square was full of seedy porn shops and homicides were in the hundreds each year?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    truffle5 wrote: »
    I think that we are finally seeing a reversal of the "white flight" that occurred in many American cities in the 1960s. Educated white middle class kids are moving into the inner cities to be close to work and to get away from boring suburbia. They are bringing money into the area and businesses follow them.

    It's happening nationwide too. Twenty years ago, large companies moved away from the cities and built their corporate campuses on green belt space, 20, 30, 40 miles from the traditional city centre business districts. Workers could live in nice settled communities near work and not have to face long commutes to/from the city to/from the 'burbs every day. But these days, younger workers don't want to live and work out in the middle of nowhere, they want to live in the middle of a city and have all perks and amenities of urban living. So to attract the best workers, companies are having to rethink where they themselves choose to locate themselves. It's changing the makeup of cities all over the place, not just in the US.


  • Registered Users Posts: 543 ✭✭✭yew_tree


    I like America suburbia. Have stayed in NJ with cousins in the past and as you say it is white picket fences with plenty of space around each house, big gardens, lovely tree lines avenues.

    Now suburbia in Ireland for a most part is housing estates, lines and lines of 3-4 bed semi detatched houes with small boxed gardens. Awful really, thats why I live in the countryside :)

    I suppose to take the opposite Irish cities have very concentrated city centers which means there is a buzz to the area and always something happening day and night (in some cases more so at night). Many larg americans cities are dead at night in the center/downtown area. Manahattan is probably an exception although I walked around downtown manahttan (near battery park) with a friend one night around 10am and the place was a ghost town.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭pgmcpq


    yew_tree wrote: »
    I like America suburbia. Have stayed in NJ with cousins in the past and as you say it is white picket fences with plenty of space around each house, big gardens, lovely tree lines avenues.

    Now suburbia in Ireland for a most part is housing estates, lines and lines of 3-4 bed semi detatched houes with small boxed gardens. Awful really, thats why I live in the countryside :)

    I suppose to take the opposite Irish cities have very concentrated city centers which means there is a buzz to the area and always something happening day and night (in some cases more so at night). Many larg americans cities are dead at night in the center/downtown area. Manahattan is probably an exception although I walked around downtown manahttan (near battery park) with a friend one night around 10am and the place was a ghost town.

    NJ is actually the most densely populated state in the US !! (DC beats it but that's a bit misleading). The exurbia lifestyle where a car is required for everything is very, very different from countryside living. There are some very nice towns in NJ, but there's an awful lot of soulless places best used as a backdrop for the latest zombie apocalypse movie.

    But you are right a lot of US cities (especially in the mid-West, but I might be biased) are not recognizable as cities in the European sense. The Battery Park area is basically the financial district. (Poeple would think of "downtown" more like the 20s. to the Village"). Like "The City" area of London once the markets are closed, and the tourists gone there is very little life there - and the residential area on the Hudson is still recovering very severe damage during Sandy.

    I find it pretty sad to see the urban sprawl that now stretches Dublin into neighbouring counties and the bad reputation that urban/apartment living has.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 31,887 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    The lack of two story houses in SoCal. Makes complete sense as hot air rises but it still surprised me!

    Didn't bother going to Hollywood in the end as any American I talked to about it said it was sleazy and grimy and generally a big let down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭pgmcpq


    Mars Bar wrote: »
    The lack of two story houses in SoCal. Makes complete sense as hot air rises but it still surprised me! .

    Possibly more to do with the costs of building codes for a second story in earthquake prone areas.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    truffle5 wrote: »



    I never understood the anti-gentrification brigade. Would you rather live in an "authentic" run-down, crime-ridden ghetto neighbourhood or a safe, gentrified hipster one? The tech boom is the best thing to happen to Northern California since the gold rush imo. Many parts of New York suffer the same problem from locals complaining that they're being inundated with transplants who are pricing them out of their neighbourhoods and bringing their chain franchises like Starbucks with them.

    l

    The problem with gentrification is that it usually involves expelling the black and brown residents who have lived in that neighborhood for generations. They are priced out of the market because their neighborhood has become "trendy". It's pure elitism and classism.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 75 ✭✭truffle5


    The problem with gentrification is that it usually involves expelling the black and brown residents who have lived in that neighborhood for generations. They are priced out of the market because their neighborhood has become "trendy". It's pure elitism and classism.

    Do blacks have a divine right to occupy the same neighbourhood for generations?

    Any comment on how the crime-rates have dropped significantly in these neighbourhoods when the black residents were replaced by whites?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭pgmcpq


    truffle5 wrote: »
    I never understood the anti-gentrification brigade. Would you rather live in an "authentic" run-down, crime-ridden ghetto neighbourhood or a safe, gentrified hipster one? The tech boom is the best thing to happen to Northern California since the gold rush imo. Many parts of New York suffer the same problem from locals complaining that they're being inundated with transplants who are pricing them out of their neighbourhoods and bringing their chain franchises like Starbucks with them.

    Check out this report on threatening graffiti targeting hipsters in San Fran's Mission neighbourhood. www (dot) nbcbayarea (dot) com/news/local/Threatening-Graffiti-Targets-Hipsters-in-San-Franciscos-Mission-District-267751121.html

    I have seen this first hand in the NE. Local's don't necessarily see their neighbourhoods as "run-down, crime-ridden, ghetto neighboourhoods". E.g. I am surprised to see that people find the homeless in SF threatening as was mentioned in another thread here. Second, the process of gentrification is rarely smooth. Where I lived until recently the 1980s saw a rash of suspicious arsons - and deaths - that resulted in buildings/land suddenly available for development/renovation. I know a lot of the locals have been forced to move already as rents rose. Even friends who have owned in the area for decades are being forced to move as their property is re valued with a resulting rise of their property taxes. So yes, its a nice job on the waterfront but all the old local business are gone, there is no longer any real affordable housing - and don't even think about parking!
    Additionally the population of the area has doubled in the last 20 years putting huge stress on infrastructure. So while it looks great, water main breaks are now a weekly event once the winter sets in. I can see how someone arriving might look at it today and ask how anyone could not want these changes. But these changes are largely not available to the people who had lived there - often for generations.

    In the interests of fair disclosure - I was one of the newcomers - though I did date a "local" woman which was my entry to the older community. There is a movie made about the process called "Delivered Vacant" made in the 1990s by Nora Jacobson. Worth a look it you come across it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭iusedtoknow


    The problem with gentrification is that it usually involves expelling the black and brown residents who have lived in that neighborhood for generations. They are priced out of the market because their neighborhood has become "trendy". It's pure elitism and classism.

    The same can really be said about the sunset in San Francisco, traditionally a poorer Irish neighborhood, and now is predominantly asian (viet and cantonese), that came in and started to buy over the houses in the area. Which i don't really care about to be honest...the viet food is incredible in our neighborhood.

    The mission was traditionally spanish but is now taking a mixture of the "techies". The traditionally "gay" part of town (Castro) that borders the Mission is starting to move it's borders and more gay bars are opening in the streets. 24th Street and Mission is still pretty spanish, Valencia is turning into Condos.

    Things change...the market moves - no one should have a hold on a neighborhood just because their parents and grand parents also lived there


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    yew_tree wrote: »
    I like America suburbia. Have stayed in NJ with cousins in the past and as you say it is white picket fences with plenty of space around each house, big gardens, lovely tree lines avenues.

    Now suburbia in Ireland for a most part is housing estates, lines and lines of 3-4 bed semi detatched houes with small boxed gardens. Awful really, thats why I live in the countryside :)

    I know. The residential parts of Irish towns and cities are very ugly and boring aren't they? Street after street of ugly concrete houses that all look identical. I love how US houses are generally detached, so you have a bit of privacy and space. I also love how over there, you buy the plot of land first and then you hire the builder to build the house. You will generally have loads of different designs to choose from, which leads to great diversity and variety in the houses. Here, it is build 200 houses that all look the same and people have no choice in what they look like.
    The problem with gentrification is that it usually involves expelling the black and brown residents who have lived in that neighborhood for generations. They are priced out of the market because their neighborhood has become "trendy". It's pure elitism and classism.

    It's got nothing to do with racism (I know you didn't specifically mention the word, but I will seeing as you brought up black and brown residents) or elitism or classism. It's got everything to do with economics and capitalism. People who own property/houses/land/apartments are going to want the people who can afford to pay the most to live in them. If that is hipster, young professionals earning $250,000 a year, versus a family living on social welfare or on a very low wage, who do you think they want to rent or sell to. Who would you want to rent or sell to if you owned an apartment block or a house?

    It happens here too, not just in the US. There are plenty of people in Dublin who grew up in the traditional working class or lower middle class neighbourhoods that are close to the city. Their families may have lived there for generations. But there is no way that their kids, or anyone just starting out in life now, are going to be a able to afford to buy there, as the area has has become too trendy (aka expensive) for first time buyers. It's been happening to several generations of my family since the 1940's. In the US, people of colour are usually the hardest hit by all this. As they are usually the ones on the lower end of the socio economic spectrum, more of them would tend to live in run down, urban areas, but I don't that that there is a grand master plan anywhere to "expel them" from cities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Joe Doe


    One thing you'll notice after a day or two is you have to ask for a key to the toilet in most cafes/restaurants, presumably they just like to keep the riff raff and junkies out. Still it's a bit odd for a country focused on customer service. Public conveniences are fairly scarce, again strange for such country with very high consumption (see below).

    from factslides.com/s-USA
    • If you have $10 in your pocket and no debts, you are wealthier than 25% of Americans (positive equity)
    • 9 million people are in prisons around world, and a quarter of them are in the U.S.
    • One American consumes as much resources as 32 Kenyans
    • About 20 million Americans live in mobile homes.
    • 1 in 3 Americans are obese.

    and the uk...
    • UK's Internet Porn Filter Architect was Arrested On Child Porn Offences.
    • The Queen of the UK is the legal owner of one-sixth of the Earth's land surface.
    • The UK spent US$15.8 billion in a health service computer system that failed and was shutdown in 2013.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭ireland.man


    truffle5 wrote: »
    Do blacks have a divine right to occupy the same neighbourhood for generations?

    Any comment on how the crime-rates have dropped significantly in these neighbourhoods when the black residents were replaced by whites?

    A better response might be to consider the long-term negative effects of displacing people who have deep social and cultural links to an area, breaking up their communities and social networks and seeing what becomes of the new neighbourhoods that these further impoverished families end up in. But you might be right, "blacks, crime, blacks, white, occupy".


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,277 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Joe Doe wrote: »
    One thing you'll notice after a day or two is you have to ask for a key to the toilet in most cafes/restaurants, presumably they just like to keep the riff raff and junkies out. Still it's a bit odd for a country focused on customer service. Public conveniences are fairly scarce, again strange for such country with very high consumption (see below).

    from factslides.com/s-USA
    • If you have $10 in your pocket and no debts, you are wealthier than 25% of Americans (positive equity)
    • 9 million people are in prisons around world, and a quarter of them are in the U.S.
    • One American consumes as much resources as 32 Kenyans
    • About 20 million Americans live in mobile homes.
    • 1 in 3 Americans are obese.

    and the uk...
    • UK's Internet Porn Filter Architect was Arrested On Child Porn Offences.
    • The Queen of the UK is the legal owner of one-sixth of the Earth's land surface.
    • The UK spent US$15.8 billion in a health service computer system that failed and was shutdown in 2013.

    I've been in the US for almost a year now and I haven't been anywhere where you had to ask for a key to use the bathroom? Last place I had to do this was back in Dublin, to access the baby changing/disabled toilet in a pub


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