Daughter forced to believe in God

vibe666

GreeBo wrote: »

Ostracized?
She is the odd one out because she is the only one choosing to sit out of religious classes.

oh you're back then?

I assume you've come to apologise?

GreeBo

Cabaal wrote: »

Yeah, its awful
I mean kids being different is wrong, its only right the others should pick on them.

Better not be a red haired child in the class either, after all don't want them to be different.

There's nothing at all wrong with any child not choosing to do religion or to be of a different religion, they have every right to do so as do their parents.

eh what?
Who said there was anything wrong with it?

She is not being singled out, she is deciding to opt out, if one person opts out then by definition they are singled out.
The school and the class are not singling her out, she is singling herself out.

daUbiq

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Sure you might as well blame the Catholics for her being kicked in the face as well. You're on a roll. Why stop now?

I'd blame the parents, the teachers and the principal. I don't remember anyone getting kicked in the head when the annual head lice hunt happened in my primary school...

GreeBo

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I guess you ignored this bit:

I think you ignored it yourself.

She told me this evening that she got leaves rubbed in her hair and got kicked in the face today (including by her best friend), and got called head-lice girl. This has nothing to do with my original post or A&A or Catholic ethos schools.

realdanbreen

Brian Shanahan wrote: »

Of course you are, a) it is your modus vivendi here on boards, and b) if you had read any of the thread, even just the original post, you would understand why the child was unhappy.

And if you read my post rather than jumping to conclusions you would see that I don't believe that a child could be so unhappy and upset as this child clearly is because of the fact that she attends a school where religion is a subject.

PopePalpatine

GreeBo wrote: »

I think you ignored it yourself.

And I wonder why they picked on her? As the Japanese say, the nail that sticks out gets hammered.

Mark Tapley

realdanbreen wrote: »

Perhaps moving her from school for the third time while she is still only seven years of age might work, then again, maybe not.

From my reading of this thread the OP is a caring involved parent trying to do the best by his child. Your mean spirited attempt to guilt trip him suggests to me that you are a christian.

realdanbreen

Mark Tapley wrote: »

From my reading of this thread the OP is a caring involved parent trying to do the best by his child. Your mean spirited attempt to guilt trip him suggests to me that you are a christian.

Do you think moving schools again will solve the childs problems?
Yes or no.

Harry Angstrom

daUbiq wrote: »

I'd blame the parents, the teachers and the principal. I don't remember anyone getting kicked in the head when the annual head lice hunt happened in my primary school...

I reckon they'd have a better class of head lice in an ET school, and the kids would probably bake you a cake and give you big hugs.

robindch

vibe666 wrote: »

I assume you've come to apologise?

Be nice.

Mark Tapley

realdanbreen wrote: »

Do you think moving schools again will solve the childs problems?
Yes or no.

The child's problem is the nature of the school. Take the school and its associated mumbo jumbo out of the equation and I think she has a better chance of being happy.

realdanbreen

Mark Tapley wrote: »

The child's problem is the nature of the school. Take the school and its associated mumbo jumbo out of the equation and I think she has a better chance of being happy.

Thats your opinion fair enough, but I happen to think its unbelieveable that a kid could get so traumatised over religion.

GreeBo

PopePalpatine wrote: »

And I wonder why they picked on her? As the Japanese say, the nail that sticks out gets hammered.

According to the OP its because she had (non-catholic) head-lice.

lazygal

realdanbreen wrote: »

Thats your opinion fair enough, but I happen to think its unbelieveable that a kid could get so traumatised over religion.

The image of a Jewish man being tortured to death isn't something I'd choose to show my children. Or stories about how they have sins and need to confess them. Or stories about how they should eat the body of Christ. Or that if they aren't of the faith they won't get to go to heaven.

Harry Angstrom

realdanbreen wrote: »

Thats your opinion fair enough, but I happen to think its unbelieveable that a kid could get so traumatised over religion.

The child is merely projecting the parent's hang-ups and prejudices about religion.

realdanbreen

lazygal wrote: »

The image of a Jewish man being tortured to death isn't something I'd choose to show my children. Or stories about how they have sins and need to confess them. Or stories about how they should eat the body of Christ. Or that if they aren't of the faith they won't get to go to heaven.

Obviously whoever tried to explain christianity to you made a right balls of it.

lazygal

realdanbreen wrote: »

Obviously whoever tried to explain christianity to you made a right balls of it.

Oh right. So the image of a Jewish man being tortured wasn't in my classroom or the church where we had to go during school hours.

NewCorkLad

realdanbreen wrote: »

Thats your opinion fair enough, but I happen to think its unbelieveable that a kid could get so traumatised over religion.

The child was not traumatised over religon. The child was traumatised by the over reaction of her teacher/principal and the bullying that followed by the other children when she stated she didnt beleive in God.

Cabaal

realdanbreen wrote: »

Obviously whoever tried to explain christianity to you made a right balls of it.

So Jesus isn't being tortured on the cross? Images showing him with blood etc are not images of somebody being tortured?

thorns don't hurt? spear in side didn't do anything? and I suppose the nails felt like fluffy flippers?.

The cross at that period was used as a device to torture and kill criminals, what did you think it was used for?

Damn, must be wrong about this all along

Cabaal

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

The child is merely projecting the parent's hang-ups and prejudices about religion.

so none belief or not following a religion is a hang up?

I don't follow football as a sport, I guess that means I must have some hang up's about it?

whats your hang up about the Islamic, Jewish, Scientology etc religions?

realdanbreen

lazygal wrote: »

Oh right. So the image of a Jewish man being tortured wasn't in my classroom or the church where we had to go during school hours.

Oh sweet jesus,why is everyone so easily traumatised? Whats going to happen the next time this kid stomps her little feet? Move school again?

lazygal

realdanbreen wrote: »

Oh sweet jesus,why is everyone so easily traumatised? Whats going to happen the next time this kid stomps her little feet? Move school again?

So showing children images of torture is ok, because its religious imagery? Having images of torture in classrooms is ok, because its religious?


We are so conditioned to think displaying images of a man being tortured to death in public spaces is normal that we never think that maybe, just maybe, a child might find such images traumatic and be upset by them?

Dades

I think this facts of this thread have been somewhat lost at this point.

The kid being bullied wasn't anything specifically to do with her opting out of religion. Yes, being called out about her honest thoughts on religion by her teacher/principal didn't help, but that issue was resolved, somewhat, at least.

There's a bit or arguing on both sides now about stuff that didn't happen.

Mark Tapley

It would seem like some posters would prefer if the child was made to stay in the religious school when another option was found.
I see it as a kind of Stockholm syndrome in which these people have allied with the people who conditioned them and fed them a diet of guilt and garbage.

GreeBo

NewCorkLad wrote: »

The child was not traumatised over religon. The child was traumatised by the over reaction of her teacher/principal and the bullying that followed by the other children when she stated she didnt beleive in God.

Was the bullying not specifically due to head lice?

Turtwig

Mod:

I think this thread has run it's course. OP, if you wish you can pm us and we'll consider re-opening it.

I'd also like to emphasise that if you think a poster is trolling REPORT the post. Don't make accusations in thread.

Thanks, and have a nice evening.