Livestock/General Farming photo thread TAKE #2 ::::RULES IN 1st POST::::

Limestone Cowboy

tanko wrote: »

When you say "well minded", how do you treat heifers you intend bulling at 15 months old. What do you feed them over their first and second winter assuming they're spring born?

4-5kg of a 16% nut and silage ad-lib. Cut back on the nuts about 6 weeks before calving. They are outside though and probably wouldn't need as much inside.

tanko

Thanks, do you give them much ration or nuts over their first winter?

Never wrestle with pigs

Calved 322 days ago. She's a dinger. Nice heifer calf. She'll be a keeper!

charolais0153

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Calved 322 days ago. She's a dinger. Nice heifer calf. She'll be a keeper!

Youd feel safe behind those gates. Heavy duty is a proper job

Limestone Cowboy

tanko wrote: »

Thanks, do you give them much ration or nuts over their first winter?

They'd be getting about 4kg of meal but like that they are outside aswell and it probably takes a bit more feeding to keep them going. I sold 10 14-16 month heifer last year and they were all between 420-490kgs and they weren't awfully fleshy at that. I don't have any problem getting them strong enough to bull. They need tlc after calving though to avoid having them slipping a year, always try to get them away to grass as soon as I can after calving. I'm surrounded by bulls here and if I didn't try and calf at 2yo half them would probably end up in calf to the neighbours charolais. Better the devil you know. 30 months would probably be the ideal age but not really possible when we are spring calving.

Never wrestle with pigs

charolais0153 wrote: »

Youd feel safe behind those gates. Heavy duty is a proper job

The bigger ones is where the stock bulls go for the winter. You'd be surprised what they can bend when they feel like it! Was doing all them pens a few years ago and put in good heavy galv dipped gates. Lifetime job.

Like you said, you feel safe behind them if something did have a run at it. I like the 4 bar gates in calving pens for a quick exit if needs be.

Grueller

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

They'd be getting about 4kg of meal but like that they are outside aswell and it probably takes a bit more feeding to keep them going. I sold 10 14-16 month heifer last year and they were all between 420-490kgs and they weren't awfully fleshy at that. I don't have any problem getting them strong enough to bull. They need tlc after calving though to avoid having them slipping a year, always try to get them away to grass as soon as I can after calving. I'm surrounded by bulls here and if I didn't try and calf at 2yo half them would probably end up in calf to the neighbours charolais. Better the devil you know. 30 months would probably be the ideal age but not really possible when we are spring calving.

I agree with 30 months. 28 is where a lot of ours get bulled. We are split calving spring and autumn so spring born heifers go into the autumn calvers and vice versa.

sonnybill

Grueller wrote: »

I agree with 30 months. 28 is where a lot of ours get bulled. We are split calving spring and autumn so spring born heifers go into the autumn calvers and vice versa.

24 is tight for me too, no problems for the adlwg up to weaning but I don't believe we get the growth rates that first winter period as silage quality wouldn't be as good and again I'd say lads up the country on drier ground would have them away on reseeded grass much earlier in Spring, additional meal then to make it happen successfully then takes the profit out of it IMO .

Like poster above I have 2 Autumn born heifers from 30 months heifers that I'll bull in may to calve at 30 mts, seems to work and shave 6 months off the situation !

charolais0153

Eby bull calf out of 2 year old cwi heifer at a day old. Hard enough pull and she is still a little sore after it

Field of grass received 0t of doleite dust and 0t of lime and diluted fresh rain.;):D

Say my name

charolais0153 wrote: »

Eby bull calf out of 2 year old cwi heifer at a day old. Hard enough pull and she is still a little sore after it

Field of grass received 0t of doleite dust and 0t of lime and diluted fresh rain.;):D

Oi you little .......
You do know where limestone land originally came from?

No fodder crisis there.

Needs more rain though.

bogman_bass

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

4-5kg of a 16% nut and silage ad-lib. Cut back on the nuts about 6 weeks before calving. They are outside though and probably wouldn't need as much inside.

God you are pushing them aren't you?

Mine get 1kg and good silage ad-lib for the first winter and the same up to christmas the second winter and then cut out the meal.

Bullocks

That grass is a sight for sore eyes !

Never wrestle with pigs

Have you many cwi heifers/cows ? How are they for milk, calving etc? Thinking of useing him a bit this year.

Never wrestle with pigs

bogman_bass wrote: »

God you are pushing them aren't you?

Mine get 1kg and good silage ad-lib for the first winter and the same up to christmas the second winter and then cut out the meal.

They are outside though. I give adlib silage and 1.5 kg of a 19% p nut from weaning in October to the end of February. Grass only after that.

charolais0153

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Have you many cwi heifers/cows ? How are they for milk, calving etc? Thinking of useing him a bit this year.

3 of them. All really good for calving. Ok for milk if the cow has some. Good fertility also
That heifers calf had a 32 inch chest girth. We had a pb charolais calf with the same chest girth out of a pb charolais 30 month old heifer and it was a section

Never wrestle with pigs

charolais0153 wrote: »

3 of them. All really good for calving. Ok for milk if the cow has some. Good fertility also
That heifers calf had a 32 inch chest girth. We had a pb charolais calf with the same chest girth out of a pb charolais 30 month old heifer and it was a section

Not to bad so. Did she carry long to eby? He should have been easier calving but depends on how they click with the cow too. I'll try a few of his straws so. Looking for a small % of lim coming back trough cows to hold shape etc.

charolais0153

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Not to bad so. Did she carry long to eby? He should have been easier calving but depends on how they click with the cow too. I'll try a few of his straws so. Looking for a small % of lim coming back trough cows to hold shape etc.

1 day over due date . had 2 cows calf over same weekend and all calves were all same size. Hes just fairly well bred i suppose

Limestone Cowboy

bogman_bass wrote: »

God you are pushing them aren't you?

Mine get 1kg and good silage ad-lib for the first winter and the same up to christmas the second winter and then cut out the meal.

Well yours probably have a few things in their favour that mine haven't. Longer grazing season on better land, housed for the winter, better quality silage. Very exposed here, even with all the feeding they haven't really done for me this year with the way the winter came, way behind the ones over the last few years. Hoping it'll stand to them though if the weather ever straightens out.

sonnybill

Impeccable bull calf this am... He tough!

Muckit

Fine calf God bless him!!

High bike

sonnybill wrote: »

Impeccable bull calf this am... He tough!

thats some heifer😂

sonnybill

High bike wrote: »

thats some heifer😂

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She an old momma 😉 2005

Hard Knocks

sonnybill wrote: »

Impeccable bull calf this am... He tough!

Super quality, Pity there’s not too many straws left

CloughCasey1

Hon the fine weather!!☺

Reggie.

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Hon the fine weather!!☺

Well for some

tanko

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Hon the fine weather!!☺

I suppose you’ll be looking for rain next week.

Limestone Cowboy

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Hon the fine weather!!☺

Half thought to remove a few lads on Snapchat today for the same carry on!

sonnybill

Capone heifer

charolais0153

Bbq bull out of pam cow. 5 weeks old

Mooooo

Fleckvieh calf