Livestock/General Farming photo thread TAKE #2 ::::RULES IN 1st POST::::

Genghis Cant

Mad4simmental wrote: »

I know most won't agree but they won't be bulled for another 15 months.

If I owned them in 15 mths all goin to plan they have a 3 or 4 mth under them
:-)
What age are they btw? 13mths or so?

Mad4simmental

Genghis Cant wrote: »

If I owned them in 15 mths all goin to plan they have a 3 or 4 mth under them
:-)
What age are they btw? 13mths or so?

Ha I see your point but I'm stuck in the old way of a bit more size. Ha. Curly one is 9 months and the other one is 11 months.

Genghis Cant

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Ha I see your point but I'm stuck in the old way of a bit more size. Ha. Curly one is 9 months and the other one is 11 months.

They're too young to be bullin alright. I'd wait till April or May so. :-)

If you treat them well after calving again they have their 3rd calf there'll be no size difference with their comrades who have a calf less.
If ya put pressure on them though you'll see them suffer.

just do it

Mad4simmental wrote: »

I got these in gort last week. Curly girl was €1140 and the other girl was €940 by a bull called Ardadoney Captin. Quiet as lambs I can nearly scratch them allreddy. I know most won't agree but they won't be bulled for another 15 months.

Private purchase? Best of luck with them. There's a lot to be said for quiet cattle. Separated out 2 2yo's this am due to calf within the next fortnight and I was able to hold their tails while following them out to the "observation paddock" i.e. I can see them from the kitchen window

dh1985

Just a photo showing the premium price of grass fed beef in the US. 50% price difference for the grass fed beef

leg wax

dh1985 wrote: »

Just a photo showing the premium price of grass fed beef in the US. 50% price difference for the grass fed beef

but its organic as well,how many fools over here would have organic meat.

sandydan

leg wax wrote: »

but its organic as well,how many fools over here would have organic meat.

im inclined to reach for the packet of salt when i see a US based label, kinda reminds me of Irish smoked produce

AntrimGlens

dh1985 wrote: »

Just a photo showing the premium price of grass fed beef in the US. 50% price difference for the grass fed beef

And its not even from the US, imported from Uruguay and I can't imagine they're being paid full whack for their product..

bogman_bass

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Ha I see your point but I'm stuck in the old way of a bit more size.

the weanling will still be the same size afterwards.

Farmer

dh1985 wrote: »

Just a photo showing the premium price of grass fed beef in the US. 50% price difference for the grass fed beef

Mind you, the $15.50 per lb for organic grass fed equates to about €11.35, not that much out of line with the ALDI price for a pound of Irish angus striploin, which may or may not be totally grass fed

sandydan

bogman_bass wrote: »

the weanling will still be the same size afterwards.

id be with M 4 Simm on this , not for the size side of argument ,when dairying about 18 yrs back was discussing with Galway cousin the problem of repeats in 1st and 2nd calvers, which he had none of ,he reconed that my policy of calving at 2yr+ was causing the problem , he calves at 3 yrs or depending on weight at bulling time earlier if possible.so i changed system and suffered looking at them for and extra yr but it worked for me so im a bit reluctant to calve heifers now at 2yr

sandydan

AntrimGlens wrote: »

And its not even from the US, imported from Uruguay and I can't imagine they're being paid full whack for their product..

bet its on cash or return basis too. ie if its not sold its returned and its paid for when they say it's sold allowing for risk of return and legal issues in case of claim,(food poisoning,bad taste etc) you know US litigation, all angles are covered bit like big Irish companies. didn't realize until lately that its only small to medium sized companies and farmers are subject to payment in 90 days legislation. actually didn't know such legislation existed,until i heard someone from SME association calling for issue to be dealt with re payment by multiples) or did i take it up wrong

Kovu

Remember reading not too long ago about an argument where people were arguing about corn fed beef tasting better than grass fed because there was more fat in it. I'll see if I can find it again!

Farrell

Monday's arrival

bogman_bass

sandydan wrote: »

id be with M 4 Simm on this , not for the size side of argument ,when dairying about 18 yrs back was discussing with Galway cousin the problem of repeats in 1st and 2nd calvers, which he had none of ,he reconed that my policy of calving at 2yr+ was causing the problem , he calves at 3 yrs or depending on weight at bulling time earlier if possible.so i changed system and suffered looking at them for and extra yr but it worked for me so im a bit reluctant to calve heifers now at 2yr

Whatever about calving at 2 1/2 calving at 3 year old is madness in my book. It costs the same to feed a 2 year old heifer as it does a 2 year old cow and you have nothing to show for it. Not only that but if she repeats a few times she gone over 30 months by the time she goes to the factory.

I have had no more hassle getting heifers back in calf if they are 2 or 2 1/2 at calving.
There is a good chance she'll never make that extra calving up along the way.

J DEERE

dh1985 wrote: »

Just a photo showing the premium price of grass fed beef in the US. 50% price difference for the grass fed beef

$9.99/lb would be considered cheap for strip steak. Have seen it retail for $12.99/lb. Tbh beef is a minefield out here, no traceability or strictly enforced welfare standards. Ireland could make a killing supplying the North American market as a niche product but our representatives are incapable of building those relationships

sandydan

J DEERE wrote: »

$9.99/lb would be considered cheap for strip steak. Have seen it retail for $12.99/lb. Tbh beef is a minefield out here, no traceability or strictly enforced welfare standards. Ireland could make a killing supplying the North American market as a niche product but our representatives are incapable of building those relationships

are you sure some of them aren't from some of their overseas factories, knowing or should i say not knowing how many pies they have claws in

Limestone Cowboy

Hairy little lad born the middle of May.

_Brian

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Hairy little lad born the middle of May.

Nice animal indeed..

I see your username is apt for the photo background.

limo_100

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Hairy little lad born the middle of May.

what weight would that calf be?? how long will you let him suck on for?

Limestone Cowboy

limo_100 wrote: »

what weight would that calf be?? how long will you let him suck on for?

230-240kg I'd say. Himself and a few more handy comrades will be weaned in the next week. Off the the winterage with the cows then and I have a bit of grass that the weanlings can graze along with a few kilos of meal for about a month. Then it's the winterage for them aswell.

limo_100

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

230-240kg I'd say. Himself and a few more handy comrades will be weaned in the next week. Off the the winterage with the cows then and I have a bit of grass that the weanlings can graze along with a few kilos of meal for about a month. Then it's the winterage for them aswell.

i have a few late ones much the the same as him i was gona let them suck on till january are you weaning them because its handier for you with the winterage or do they do better being weaned?

Limestone Cowboy

limo_100 wrote: »

i have a few late ones much the the same as him i was gona let them suck on till january are you weaning them because its handier for you with the winterage or do they do better being weaned?

If I could house them I'd let them suck for another start aswell but the cows will melt if I leave calves sucking them on the winterage. Better feeding the calf than trying to feed the cow with the calf sucking her. If I wean now should get away until the middle of January or maybe Feburary before the cows need anything.

limo_100

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

If I could house them I'd let them suck for another start aswell but the cows will melt if I leave calves sucking them on the winterage. Better feeding the calf than trying to feed the cow with the calf sucking her. If I wean now should get away until the middle of January or maybe Feburary before the cows need anything.

they'll make nice little stores next april for you

Mac Taylor

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

230-240kg I'd say. Himself and a few more handy comrades will be weaned in the next week. Off the the winterage with the cows then and I have a bit of grass that the weanlings can graze along with a few kilos of meal for about a month. Then it's the winterage for them aswell.

LC, Iovely animal, I have a few like that off heifers this year, half thinking of selling them, did you consider selling them?

Limestone Cowboy

Mac Taylor wrote: »

LC, Iovely animal, I have a few like that off heifers this year, half thinking of selling them, did you consider selling them?

I normally hold a few of the handier lads to sell in May, for cash flow as much as anything else really. The likes of him are a fairly good trade at the moment. Reckon he'd have made 750+ at the local mart earlier in the week. Heifers calf aswell.

Bodacious

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

230-240kg I'd say. Himself and a few more handy comrades will be weaned in the next week. Off the the winterage with the cows then and I have a bit of grass that the weanlings can graze along with a few kilos of meal for about a month. Then it's the winterage for them aswell.

you keeping them so?

Limestone Cowboy

Bodacious wrote: »

you keeping them so?

Yip, they'll stay till next May now!

orm0nd

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Hairy little lad born the middle of May.

I was in ennis about 3 weeks ago and chaps like him were an utter rob , fellows nearly fighting over them , the tanglers were looking on with mouths open

Bodacious

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

I normally hold a few of the handier lads to sell in May, for cash flow as much as anything else really. The likes of him are a fairly good trade at the moment. Reckon he'd have made 750+ at the local mart earlier in the week. Heifers calf aswell.

I had his double in clifden 274kg, ADX heifers calf... big growth with a good end E700, took him home out of it


Sold yellows/whites no problem back on other years but still good trade, great value to be had in limos ( not great for sellers)


saw light red lim heifers


196kg 450
194kg 445
168kg 430
184kg 440


wouldn't they be lookin for that on donedeal for sucks